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Live Thread: Pharoah Obama Speech on State of the Arab Spring Sham Wow (12:14 p.m. EDT 5/19/11)
Thursday, May 19, 2011 | Kristinn

Posted on 05/19/2011 9:28:35 AM PDT by kristinn

Obama started 44 minutes late, as usual. Praises Hillary, intros with talk of winding down war in Iraq and brags about killing Osama....


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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To: ScaniaBoy

Sarah Palin will—you can count on it!


261 posted on 05/19/2011 11:26:46 AM PDT by Palladin (Sarah Palin in 2012!)
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To: caww
Tuesday the 24th.
262 posted on 05/19/2011 11:26:59 AM PDT by kristinn (Lowering the IQ on FR since Jul 31, 1998)
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To: Steel Wolf

So there you have it.

Bammie will send US troops to Egypt, Libya, and any and all other muzzie countries that have any sort of uprising.

But in regards to our strongest ally in the med-east; it’s a great big “Go eff yourself”.


263 posted on 05/19/2011 11:30:59 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I'm a Birther - And a Deather)
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To: kristinn

264 posted on 05/19/2011 11:31:31 AM PDT by mulder1 ("The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.")
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To: kristinn

I just heard a radio news report stating he is due
for a sitdown (another smackdown ?) with BHO tomorrow.

I pray he cancels the trip, in light of this diabolical and heavy handed pronouncement from the muslim-loving overlord. It will serve NO good purpose for Israel.
On the contrary, I think it will show a weakness on Bibi’s part.

He needs to go back to ground, back to square one and prepare. He’s been set adrift maliciously .. left hanging in the wind.

If there ever was such a thing as a Star Chamber .. and Patriot Shadow Government for good, NOW is the time for them to come forward and save this gasping nation.


265 posted on 05/19/2011 11:31:50 AM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: lonevoice

Is that Magnum or Blue Steel?


266 posted on 05/19/2011 11:33:52 AM PDT by Moose Burger
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To: newzjunkey; Balata
So it's official, Obama says Israel must retreat to the pre-67 borders.

He wants Egypt to re-occupy Gaza and Jordan to annex the West Bank?

267 posted on 05/19/2011 11:35:10 AM PDT by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: Hoodat; Nachum; SJackson; Kaslin; MestaMachine

This is the Saudi plan of 2002: the “Auschwitz borders.” It involves the Golan Heights and splitting Jerusalem, too, and gives up the Temple Mount/Wailing wall. There are also issues about water control. Israel will become indefensible. Then, there is the Mount of Olives cemetery.


http://www.ourjerusalem.com/opinion/story/opinion20020301.html
“Saudi “Peace” Plan Would Reduce Israel To Indefensible Pre-1967 Borders ZOA February 27, 2002 NEW YORK – The Saudi Arabian “peace” plan which is now circulating would reduce Israel to the indefensible pre-1967 borders, which would leave Israel barely nine miles wide at its vulnerable midsection.

Morton A. Klein, National President of the Zionist Organization of America (ZOA) said: “Abba Eban had good reason when he referred to the pre-1967 borders as Auschwitz lines–those borders are so narrow and indefensible that in a future war, Israel could suffer massive destruction and unimaginable casualties.”
The Saudi plan for an Israeli retreat to the pre-1967 borders would also include the redivision of Jerusalem. The Arabs would gain control of the historic Old City section of Jerusalem (known as “eastern Jerusalem”), which includes the holiest sites in Judaism, the Temple Mount and the Western Wall. That area also includes the historic Jewish Quarter and the Mount of Olives cemetery, which is the oldest Jewish cemetery in the world.

According to media descriptions of the Saudi plan, the Arabs would agree to “full normalization” of relations with Israel. “This smacks of historical amnesia,” ZOA president Klein noted. “Egypt, Jordan, and the Palestinian Authority already agreed to full normalization of relations with Israel when they signed their peace treaties with Israel in 1979, 1993, and 1994, respectively. Yet neither Egypt, Jordan, nor the PA have ever fulfilled their obligation to have normal relations. Now the Saudis are trying to sell Israel the same rug again.”

The ZOA president said that the Saudi Arabian plan is “an
obvious public relations ploy, designed to enhance the image of Saudi Arabia and the Arab world in the wake of the September 11 terrorist attacks, since so many of the terrorists were Saudi nationals and so many Arabs celebrated the attacks.” He also pointed out that, far from bringing peace, an Israeli retreat to the indefensible pre-1967 borders would encourage further Arab attacks and lead to an all-out war.

* Israeli Prime Ministers Called Retreat to the Pre-1967 Borders “Suicide” and “Treasonable”: Then-Prime Minister Menachem Begin described a proposal for a retreat to the pre-1967 borders as “national suicide for Israel.” Then-Prime Minister Golda Meir said the pre-1967 borders were so dangerous that it “would be treasonable” for an Israeli leader to accept them. (New York Times, Dec. 23, 1969) Then-Foreign Minister Abba Eban said the pre-1967 borders have “a memory of Auschwitz.” (Der Spiegel, Nov.5, 1969)

* Israel Would Be Just Nine Miles Wide: A retreat to the pre-1967 borders would leave Israel just nine miles wide at its mid-section. Israel could be cut in two by an Arab tank charge in just minutes. Arab forces would be positioned all along Israel’s eastern border, including the areas that contain 70% of Israel’s population, including Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, an Haifa.

* Israel Would Be Stripped of its Eastern Defenses: Israel would be stripped of its protective Judea-Samaria mountain ranges. U.S. Lieut.-General Thomas Kelly, director of operations for the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the Gulf War, has pointed out that Israel would be virtually indefensible without those mountainous areas: “I look out from those heights and look onto the West Bank and say to myself, ‘If I’m the chief ofstaff of the Israel Defense Forces, I cannot defend this land without that terrain.’ They only have to go to the high ground running north and south in the middle of the country in order to dominate the country. So I don’tknow about politics, but if you want me to defend this country, and youwant me to defend Jerusalem, I’ve got to hold that high ground.”

Shortly after the 1967 war, U.S.Defense Secretary Robert McNamara asked the Joint Chiefs of Staff to analyze which of the administered territories Israel needed to keep for its security. Regarding Judea-Samaria, the Joint Chiefs concluded: “Control of the prominent high ground running north-south through the middle of West Jordan [the “West Bank”]…and then southeast to a junction with the Dead Sea…would provide Israel with a militarily defensible border.”

* A New Terrorist State Would Be Created: According to
the Saudi plan, once Israel retreats to the pre-1967 borders, an independent Palestinian Arab state would be established in the vacated areas. Such a state would have its own army and would be able to import large quantities of weapons (such as those on Arafat’s “ship of terror” that Israel intercepted in January 2002). A new Arafat state, like his current Palestinian Authority regime, would be a brutal Muslim dictatorship that would torture dissidents, silence newspapers that deviate from Arafat’s line, and persecute Christians. It would have warm relations with the most anti-American regimes in the world, including Iraq, Iran, Syria, Sudan, Libya, North Korea, and Cuba.

* Israel’s Water Supply Would Be Endangered: A significant portion of Israel’s water originates in Judea-Samaria. A retreat to the 1967 borders would leave these crucial Israeli water sources under Arab control.

* Jewish Religious Rights Would Be Endangered: Israelis rememberall too well how Jews were barred from Hebron and the Old City of Jerusalem when Arab forces occupied those areas during 1948-1967. More recently, the Palestinian Authority has already destroyed one key Jewish religious site, the Tomb of Joseph, turning it into a mosque and barring Jews from the area. The ancient Shalom al-Yisrael synagogue in PA-controlled Jericho hasalso been burned down. PA officials have called for banning Jewish prayer from Jerusalem’s Western Wall and Hebron’s Cave of the Patriarchs, and PA police officers regularly carry out shooting attacks on the Tomb of Rachel, near Bethlehem. If Israel retreats to the pre-1967 borders, the Arafat state which is established will undoubtedly prevent Jews from access to their religious sites.”


268 posted on 05/19/2011 11:49:09 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Palladin
Sarah Palin will—you can count on it!

I am certain of that too.

269 posted on 05/19/2011 12:00:39 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: STARWISE

Yes! What STARWISE said!!

(SW...you sure have a way with words.)


270 posted on 05/19/2011 12:08:25 PM PDT by Palladin (Sarah Palin in 2012!)
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To: STARWISE
Is the name Palestine an accurate name for Israel?

After the second Jewish revolt under Bar Cochba (A.D. 132-135) it is said the Roman emperor Hadrian renamed the land of Israel and Judea as Palastina ('Palestine') after the ancient enemies of the Jews - the Philistines. Because of his hatred of the Jews, it was meant to be an insult to dishonor them and remove their history.

Today Palestine is used like it was from its inception-as an anti Jewish term.

271 posted on 05/19/2011 12:22:36 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: STARWISE

Israel should just tell him eff you. You are not telling us what to do


272 posted on 05/19/2011 12:44:06 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: combat_boots

Is anyone surprised that Obama wants to follow this SA plan and obliterate the state of Israel, killing as many Jews as possible in the process?

He is a Muslim. This has been his scheme all along. He wants to bring on Auschwitz II.


273 posted on 05/19/2011 12:53:06 PM PDT by Palladin (Sarah Palin in 2012!)
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To: kristinn
I will stand with Israel against evil.


274 posted on 05/19/2011 1:03:23 PM PDT by COUNTrecount (Barry...above his poi grade.)
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To: kabar

275 posted on 05/19/2011 1:07:22 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: kristinn

The spirit of anti-christ is with us.


276 posted on 05/19/2011 1:07:57 PM PDT by Chandalier
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To: kristinn

Pharoh Hussein has just condemed the USA measure for measure. The Mexicans will probably start measures to reclaim Atzlan.


277 posted on 05/19/2011 1:07:57 PM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: newzjunkey

Yeah, I think he and Rue Paul are on the same ideological page when it comes to Israel. We’re very lucky that there’s no way on earth Paul will ever have the opportunity to have the same kind of influence on Middle East policy as the Imam Obama has...for now.


278 posted on 05/19/2011 1:17:30 PM PDT by lonevoice (Where the Welfare State is on the march, the Police State is not far behind)
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To: Palladin
MOSSAD may get a special assignment soon.

They'd be doing more than Israel a favor. I'm certain BIBI knew of this as well...much has been already leading up to it. But it really is shocking hearing Obama say "THE UNITED STATES" supports his statements. He in no wise speaks for me! I do feel like I just got slapped in the face, again, by this administration. Question remains how will Congress now respond????? I hope our guys are in unison on this matter and show it!

279 posted on 05/19/2011 1:18:21 PM PDT by caww
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To: Taffini

You’re very welcome! :-)


280 posted on 05/19/2011 1:20:18 PM PDT by lonevoice (Where the Welfare State is on the march, the Police State is not far behind)
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