Who's this? He was born in 1936. An alien got a Hawaii SSN in 1960?
Posted on 04/29/2011 5:52:16 PM PDT by Nachum
It didn’t take long for some of President Obama’s doubters to claim the long-awaited birth certificate posted online by the White House on Wednesday had been altered or might be a fake.
But a leading software expert says there’s no doubt about its authenticity, and he dismisses claims of fraud as flat-out wrong.
The doubters have latched onto the idea that Adobe Illustrator — the premier program for computer graphic artists — “reveals” evidence of document manipulation in the Obama birth certificate. They note Illustrator reveals nine separate layers of the document, and claim it’s “proof” the file has been altered.
But that’s not so, says Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator.
“You should not be so suspicious about this,” Tremblay told FoxNews.com, dismissing the allegations.
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He said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery. “I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.
Tremblay explained that the scanner optical character recognition (OCR) software attempts to translate characters or words in a photograph into text. He said the layers cited by the doubters shows that software at work – and nothing more.
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Well, not really graphic files. More like it’s been separated into layered elements. Those elements have further been filtered. Whether or not that is part of the OCR function, I do not know. My experience is in Adobe/Macromedia graphic applications.
Thanks.
That is good.
It does not perfectly replicate what is going with the original.
I replicated what he did. It did chop up the document - but into a lot more pieces (as in the video) and none looked like what was posted.
It is good stuff and does explain how an image can get ‘chopped up’ but still not correct.
We should not have be doing this investigation. Why can’t the WH simply say - “here is what did and why” and why can they not provide one of the two the actual certified copies from Hawaii for examination?
Corruption or arrogance? Either shows they are unfit to serve.
I did. Two years ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHZQ_SrEiOc
Try this one, bluecat isn’t sold. Let’s see what you think.
Just trying to feed the fishes here.
I haven't found any other LFBC's that look like that, no. Hawaii is far away, and I don't personally know anyone from there who would be able to speak reliably with regard to the typing up of BCs back in the 60s. I was merely responding to your point about the ability to center on a field using a manual typewriter. That, as I said, is entirely possible, and anybody who has ever used a manual typewriter with regularity (such as my grandmother, who was a secretary, and gave me a few of her machines) will tell you the same.
Sorry but that’s just silliness. Those certified copies came with letters from the Hawaii DoH attesting to the veracity of the documents. Do you realize how much you sound like a truther when you say such things? No documentation will ever satisfy you no matter where it comes from.
Question is: If that guy is still wrong—how will anyone be able to tell the difference? Will someone EVER be able to authenticate what’s going on here?
A low-resolution digital scan is far easier to forge, and it is good enough for most opinion-makers.
B.D. : “Why are you continuing to defend his birth certificate?”
I’m not “defending the birth certificate”. I am merely responding to your “finding”. You seem to think the alignment of the type on Obama’s image proves it is a fraud. I don’t think your argument would hold up as evidence in a court of law that the image was fraudulent.
Personally, I don’t really think you can make determinations of fraud based on this digital image - you would need to have an “original” copy of the document since this image is not admissible as evidence in any court. So this image cannot be used as proof Obama is born in HI nor can it be used to disprove the fact.
Now if you can prove the INFORMATION given on the document is fraudulent, that is a completely different story. That is why I think we need to concentrate on the content and not the “layers”, OCR, or typed or stamped text.
I get all my news on the am radio and internet. Fox news, as well as the others, is pure garbage.
Good videos, thanks for sharing
So no one finds it odd that the registrar is Uk La Lee?
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That cannot possibly be a valid, legal signature. Are there any other LFCOLBs out there from Hawaii with the same registrar?
Did you by chance see the video in 191 ?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2712636/posts?page=191#191
Now if you can prove the INFORMATION given on the document is fraudulent, that is a completely different story. That is why I think we need to concentrate on the content and not the “layers”, OCR, or typed or stamped text.
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Right. Just like we did with the Bush TexANG document - aka the “throbbing memo” / Killian Document.
Why the either or approach? How about both? Attack presentation AND content. We are Freepers and probably capable of both.
Yes. It has been covered numerous times on numerous threads.
H.M. : “That cannot possibly be a valid, legal signature. Are there any other LFCOLBs out there from Hawaii with the same registrar?”
Then you should examine Post #78 in this thread more closely...
Brown Deer’s point still stands though. If Obama was born at Kapiolani like the Nordykes, it was probably the same person who typed all those BC’s. Why did someone who used tabs to type both Nordyke BC’s all of a sudden use the space bar instead for Obama’s?
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