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Expert: No Doubt Obama's Birth Certificate Is Legit
Fox News ^ | 4/29/11 | Jana Winter

Posted on 04/29/2011 5:52:16 PM PDT by Nachum

It didn’t take long for some of President Obama’s doubters to claim the long-awaited birth certificate posted online by the White House on Wednesday had been altered or might be a fake.

But a leading software expert says there’s no doubt about its authenticity, and he dismisses claims of fraud as flat-out wrong.

The doubters have latched onto the idea that Adobe Illustrator — the premier program for computer graphic artists — “reveals” evidence of document manipulation in the Obama birth certificate. They note Illustrator reveals nine separate layers of the document, and claim it’s “proof” the file has been altered.

But that’s not so, says Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator.

“You should not be so suspicious about this,” Tremblay told FoxNews.com, dismissing the allegations.

Related Links Obama Birth Certificate Moved to More Secure Location Months Ago

He said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery. “I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.

Tremblay explained that the scanner optical character recognition (OCR) software attempts to translate characters or words in a photograph into text. He said the layers cited by the doubters shows that software at work – and nothing more.

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KEYWORDS: birth; birthcertificate; bsexpert; certificate; certifigate; colbfake; expert; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamas
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To: Nachum

LOL - the guy’s a trainer — not that there’s anything wrong with that.


181 posted on 04/29/2011 8:03:53 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: Revolting cat!
Something elso for you to dismiss: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/265767/pdf-layers-obamas-birth-certificate-nathan-goulding

Goulding doesn't prove anything.

” B&W + Color layers. Birth Certificate is a fraud (4/29/11) “

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcxcviRXs4E

“Obama Birth Certificate Faked In Adobe Illustrator - Official Proof 2”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JT0Tpf1IhxA

182 posted on 04/29/2011 8:04:07 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: bluecat6
1) The bend in the certificate image on the left side. Any certified copy of a HawaiiLFBC created recently does not have this ‘left side bend’.

Do you, by chance, have a link to the image floating around FR of the HI long form BC that was obtained in March of this year? I know I have the link but it is on a different computer. Thanks!

183 posted on 04/29/2011 8:05:18 PM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: Nachum

This is what Obama does best. Creats an illusion and then tries to back it up with political cheerleaders. If he really wanted to 100% prove his eligibility then he would actually “UNSEAL” his vital records at the Hawaii DOH. But instead we get another fake document and his records are still under presidential seal so that nobody can do any sort of positive authentication. Trump is either lying or confused when he says he got Obama to “RELEASE” his records. All Trump got was another poke in the eye and more leftist ridicule from Obama and his pet Wookie in the whitehouse.


184 posted on 04/29/2011 8:06:03 PM PDT by rwoodward ("god, guns and more ammo")
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To: Texas Fossil

It was done long ago. December of 2008. He was hoping he wouldn’t have to use the faked document but the poll number and public opinion polls regarding this issue, plus Trump, forced his hand.

This is when the fix was done:

http://david393071.newsvine.com/_news/2008/12/27/2250135-president-obama-in-dark-power-outage-at-oahu-hawaii


185 posted on 04/29/2011 8:07:00 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

But you left out one important detail from my post... the Fed-Ex part directly from the issuing authority. Try applying to a grad school with transcripts that you’ve touched. Won’t fly. Has to be sent directly from your previous school’s registrar’s office, with all the appropriate stamps, signatures, and postmarks, in a sealed untampered with envelope. As soon as Obama’s attorneys touched it, it became damaged goods.


186 posted on 04/29/2011 8:07:00 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: muawiyah

That’s not what HDOH Communications Director Janice Okubo says. She says the “date filed” is when the BC was given a number at the state HDOH office.

Argue with her. All I’ve ever wanted is the truth. If she’s not giving us the truth then we have a problem. Would you agree?


187 posted on 04/29/2011 8:07:29 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: rwoodward

Obama’s records are not under presidential seal. That’s an old birther rumor that has long since been debunked. See my FR home page for details.


188 posted on 04/29/2011 8:08:26 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: stickywillie

What do your olfactory glands predict about a second term for zero. Now that the race for presidency is akin to American idol and dancing with the leftists, I fear another 4 years. Romney vs rock star = landslide for zero.


189 posted on 04/29/2011 8:09:03 PM PDT by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: IMR 4350

I’m with you. I think the birth took place in Canada, near WA state.


190 posted on 04/29/2011 8:09:24 PM PDT by Jude in WV
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To: Red Steel

A couple more for the OCR fire.

“uncovered a hidden part of the PDF that you can’t see unless you take apart the file that they masked proving that this wasn’t made into layers by OCR.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Up62cFOtvQ4&;

“hidden part of the PDF that you can’t see unless you take apart the file that they masked proving that this wasn’t made into layers by OCR.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Up62cFOtvQ4&;


191 posted on 04/29/2011 8:09:49 PM PDT by Herbster
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To: 9422WMR

“What the hell has happened to Fox News? They all go way overboard to defend anything potentially bad about Obama?
I have never seen this type of blatant propaganda to coverfor an elected official.It’s overboard, way past any appearance of objective journalism. Are we this far past the possibility of a true Republic? The news is corrupt, the elected officials are corrupt, our school systems are corrupted. What does the citizenry do in the face of an overwhelming corrupt system? I know the answer, but I doubt the sheeple are willing to give up the remote and total entertainment to correct the problem”........Glenn’s not leavin’ FOX for nothin’. Those liberals’ll wish he was still there in 6 months.


192 posted on 04/29/2011 8:09:59 PM PDT by stickywillie
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I am suspicious as heck about this FOIA release.

Again, the timing! They needed the second punch of “Obama was born in Hawaii” to reinforce the message and viola - an FOIA that shows that! How nice!

Oh, and lets make catch headlines by throwing dad under the bus for his womanizing. How nice. At least dad with have lots of company under the bus.

Something about this little tid-bit in the FOIA release feels very, very wrong.


193 posted on 04/29/2011 8:10:06 PM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: EyeGuy
Where is the original PAPER document?

That should have been question number one the day Obama made the "silly speech".

Question number 2 should have been why is he President with his father having been born in Kenya.

194 posted on 04/29/2011 8:12:01 PM PDT by tsowellfan (Trust But Verify makes President Reagan the original birther.)
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To: stickywillie

Turn off fox news. It’s trash.


195 posted on 04/29/2011 8:12:11 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (F U B O ! ! !)
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To: Brown Deer

The reasoning in that article is not sound because of some factual errors.

For instance, the birth announcement stuff doesn’t pan out with what is actually in the announcements; the announcements came in a different order in the Advertiser than in the Star-Bulletin and the 2 papers didn’t even have all the same names. Nordykes, for instance, were in only the Advertiser and 3 days later than Waidelich who was born at Kapiolani the day before Nordykes.

And HRS 338-17.7 only became law in 1982 so it wasn’t in effect in 1961.

If Obama had been born at Kapiolani his BC would have been in the same pile as the Nordykes’ and would have been “filed”/given a number at the state HDOH office on Aug 11th just like theirs. That part is accurate.

But the bigger problem is that the “date filed” is when the number was assigned, according to Janice Okubo, and Obama’s was supposedly given a number on Aug 8th that was higher/later than the number given to the Nordykes 3 days later on Aug 11th. That wouldn’t happen in real life, so either the BC#, date filed, or both have been fabricated.

The fact that Obama didn’t know a BC# and “date filed” that would work together suggests that he didn’t have a valid 1961 birth certificate to copy that information from.


196 posted on 04/29/2011 8:15:21 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: Mike-o-Matic

“FWIW, I think you have a typo there... you’re missing an “i” in “qualified.”

How ‘bout this instead?
http://www.ObamaNotQualified.com";

Oh, thank you. I actually copied and pasted from that site’s website. So I just went back to it and checked why it was wrong. On their website they said if anyone wanted to post there, they had to use that address. But it was a typo! So I just emailed their Contact people and let them know.

THANK YOU for that great observation. It really is a well written website.


197 posted on 04/29/2011 8:15:50 PM PDT by PrayAndVoteConservesInLibsOut
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To: Brown Deer

The reasoning in that article is not sound because of some factual errors.

For instance, the birth announcement stuff doesn’t pan out with what is actually in the announcements; the announcements came in a different order in the Advertiser than in the Star-Bulletin and the 2 papers didn’t even have all the same names. Nordykes, for instance, were in only the Advertiser and 3 days later than Waidelich who was born at Kapiolani the day before Nordykes.

And HRS 338-17.7 only became law in 1982 so it wasn’t in effect in 1961.

If Obama had been born at Kapiolani his BC would have been in the same pile as the Nordykes’ and would have been “filed”/given a number at the state HDOH office on Aug 11th just like theirs. That part is accurate.

But the bigger problem is that the “date filed” is when the number was assigned, according to Janice Okubo, and Obama’s was supposedly given a number on Aug 8th that was higher/later than the number given to the Nordykes 3 days later on Aug 11th. That wouldn’t happen in real life, so either the BC#, date filed, or both have been fabricated.

The fact that Obama didn’t know a BC# and “date filed” that would work together suggests that he didn’t have a valid 1961 birth certificate to copy that information from.


198 posted on 04/29/2011 8:16:28 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: bluecat6
bluecat6 wrote:

Go find an early 1960s Hawaii LFBC with centered text. Then come back and we will discuss. Centered fields...with a 1961 typewriter....yeah.... You must be well under 50 years old.

Well I still use an old Underwood from the 50s and centering text in a field is no problem, just as it is no problem to create alignment over the course of a page. You just have to know how to use a typewriter, which perhaps few people do anymore but plenty did back then. It depends on the model of course, but I have several old machines, most from the 50s and 60s, and there are guides for spacing on all of them, whether you want to use them for a single row or to lock columns or margins for several pages. So, sorry, but that's not the problem here.

199 posted on 04/29/2011 8:17:41 PM PDT by Bouilhet
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To: Tatze
Perhaps I am misunderstanding your comment, but are you assuming that the actual original document bound in the records book contains the stamp?.

No, I am happy to clear this up. Yes, the stamp confirms that the document has been forwarded and is accurate. There would be no need for the original document to be stamped.

200 posted on 04/29/2011 8:18:25 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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