Posted on 04/27/2011 4:09:51 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.
The PDF is composed of multiple images. Thats correct. Using a photo editor or PDF viewer of your choice, you can extract this image data, view it, hide it, etc. But these layers, as theyre being called, arent layers in the traditional photo-editing sense of the word. They are, quite literally, pieces of image data that have been positioned in a PDF container. They appear as text but also contain glyphs, dots, lines, boxes, squiggles, and random garbage. Theyre not combined or merged in any way. Quite simply, they look like they were created programmatically, not by a human.
Whats plausible is that somewhere along the way from the scanning device to the PDF-creation software, both of which can perform OCR (optical character recognition) these partial/pseudo-text images were created and saved. Whats not plausible is that the government spent all this time manufacturing Obamas birth certificate only to commit the laughably rookie mistake of exporting the layers from Photoshop, or whatever photo editing software they are meant to have used. Its likely that whoever scanned the birth certificate in Hawaii forgot to turn off the OCR setting on the scanner. Lets leave it at that.
UPDATE: Ive confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.
The ‘manipulation’ was they scanned in the document with OCR settings on, that’s all.
Ping to post mah friend!
A standalone paper unattached to any document means nothing. Likewise a simple easily duplicated stamp or printing also proves nothing. It is only a stamping created by an engraved and not easily forge-able instrument that will suffice.
This is why kings of old had signet rings. They made a wax impression of their ring to seal documents to vouch for their authenticity. A document without a stamped engraved seal was worthless.
Likewise even today a document without a stamped or embossed seal is worthless for the same reason.
Unfortunately, in today's world even embossing tools are easily forged. Printing alone is even more forge-able even when using colored inks.
There are some special purpose inks which may appear to change color when viewed from different angles such as some of the inks used in modern U.S. paper bills but even those inks are available if one can afford to pay the price for obtaining forbidden items.
The point of mentioning the lack of an embossed seal on Obama’s ‘birth certificate’ was to attest that there was no seal on the document and any other document alluding to the validity of another document other than itself is worthless unless both documents are physically inseparable.
Once the two documents became parted, there is no longer any guarantee of the validity of the document being vouched for. Only an embossed irremovable seal or irremovable and incontestable marking can guarantee the validity of any document.
“Why would they sic collectors on you just for letting your subscription lapse? Doesnt sound believable.”
I think I sent back a card that said I was going to renew but didn’t. I didn’t get any issues, but the collector hounded me for months and I finally said hey this is a subscription, gfy.
For your edification, I took the PDF and re-compressed it using a better piece of software, using a better MRC-compression algorithm. You can find it here. Please open it in the viewer of your choice, and play with the layers (this one really puts the different parts into seperate layers). Note that even though it does a better job at seperating the text from the background (for example, the signatures end up in the text layer, not the background), it still is not perfect.
But the Nordyke ones seem similar to the one Obama produced. These were all recorded and stored the same way. By the time you came around, maybe things had changed?
ML/NJ
That could be.
scan it again and tell me if you get the exact same thing.
Then keep scanning until you get JUST dates and signatures, then call us...
So in other words, you purchased a product but refused to pay for it. Not very honorable.
pfttt...I had been a NR subscriber for 30 years...and finally got disgusted enough to drop them.
Has Obama jr. EVER said,spoken or written, that he is a Natural Born citizen or a Native Citizen?
According to their own website , the DNC FightTheSmears, the info they received from the White House state NATIVE BORN.
The question NEVER was where was jr. born but if he has dual allegiances and fails the Constitutional requirement to be President. There are two issues that are not resolved, one is his possible dual allegiance via his father and secondly his possible dual allegiance IF he was adopted when his name changed to Barry Soetoro.
Since I don’t have access to the original document to scan, and that I’m most likely using different hardware/software to scan a print out of the PDF, I will never be able to EXACTLY replicate all the layers. I have proven that document scanned to a PDF will IN FACT have layers. Many have pointed to this characteristic as proof of a forgery. I have proved that it does not.
Which one?
So, the explanation is that OCR caused the layers but wavy lines and random junk was picked up by OCR ? I think random lines and junk could be added on purpose to make a document look more authentic and aged.
This is administration has to go down as one of the most incompetent ever. They can’t to a simple scan and make a freekin’ simple PDF? Ridiculous. Why release a layered PDF to the public. They are fools, my friend. Nonetheless, the green security background is totally fabricated. I work with scans and PDFs all day long, these anomalies never occur in my day-to-day work.
Guess we’re back to square one — if he shows the actual birth certificate, it’s all cleared up. Duh. Easy and simple.
How about I mail you the photo of a check?
It was never about what State he was born in.
It IS the FACT,according to the DNC owned website FightTheSmears that Jr. there is a “NATIVE CITIZEN” because his father was a foreigner, NOT ,as the Constitution requires, NATURAL BORN.
Worth repeating, and also he might have been an Indonesian citizen as well. Those are two reasons why I never turned against certifigate hawks, even after the talk radio hosts got wobbly. There is so much for BO to defend, including his other hidden records.
Of course, we can beat him on the issues too, and there’s no way Reid will allow him to lose an impeachment trial, not to mention Boehner’s spine has turned to jelly. The courts don’t want to touch it, and it’s not really their place to overturn the public will [not until it’s a republican at least].
So this is just a thing to discuss like any other issue. It’s just another paper cut at best. Funny how the focus-focus-focus crowd drove us into the arms of Donald Trump. We should thank Glenn Beck for making Trump so popular.
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