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Will It Take A New Political Party to Save America?
American Thinker ^
| 04/15/2011
| Lee Carey
Posted on 04/15/2011 6:59:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
It is painful to even consider the possibility that America is moving into its Sixth Party System, as a new, conservative political party emerges to, eventually, replace the Grand Old Party. Yet events suggest this may be in the cards.
We've seen third party candidates like Pat Buchanan, Ross Perot, and, for those older among us, Strom Thurmond. Earlier still, there was Teddy Roosevelt playing the Bull Moose. But personality-based political movements have been short-lived anomalies, with marginal long-term impact on the body politic.
Today, conventional wisdom labels the notion that a third party can become a major long-term player as heretical, and does so with the acquiescent nod of the major parties that represent an oligarchy of two.
But viewed across a calendar covering centuries in America, the evolutionary ebb-and-flow of America's political history can be traced through a geologic-like time scale:
First Party System, 1792-1825 (Federalists vs. the Democratic-Republicans);
Second Party System, 1828-1854 (Democrats vs. Whigs);
Third Party System, 1854-1895, (post-Civil War new Republicans vs. the Democrats);
Fourth Party System, 1896-1932 (called the
Progressive Era due to Presidents Teddy Roosevelt and Wilson, dominated by Republicans); and the
Fifth Party System, 1933-today (also called the
New Deal Party System).
We the people have shaped and reshaped our political landscape along the way, and more than once. Perhaps another shift is underway today.
During our current Fifth Party System, both major parties have helped expand the role of the federal government. We've watched that growth match the accelerated increase in the federal debt, as the two parties have taken turns sustaining the unsustainable drag race to the cliff. Granted, one drives faster than the other, but both drive in the same direction.
Depending on whom you believe, the cliff is moderately-to-perilously close. Yet there's been no significant slack in our speed. And, in the last three years, it's been pedal-to-the-metal.
As we citizens hunker down in the back seat, tightening our seat belts, some of us see the cliff close enough to warrant pulling the emergency brake with the fierce urgency of now in order to avoid a Thelma & Louise event. (Note how the movie ends as the two heroines celebrate their freedom, launched into the blue. Note, also, that the resulting carnage at the bottom of the canyon isn't depicted.)
This week, the President, who perceives leadership primarily as a language event, addressed the federal deficit and delivered yet another speech on his 2012 budget. In a brilliant display of doublespeak, he called new taxes "spending reductions in the tax code," while Joe Biden spoke for many of us by
falling asleep.
Thanks, Joe. We needed that.
The President's speech came on the heels of a 2011 budget agreement whereby the Republicans gained...well, it's not clear what they gained by way of concessions from the Democrats, but a covey of pols in dark suits told us they'd made the best deal they could -- speaking from both sides of the aisle.
The next deficit event will address raising the federal debt limit. Both sides say that if we don't lift it, the United States of America will cease to exist.
Meanwhile, some of us have grown skeptical that neither party, not singly nor both working together, can cut the deficit and the federal budget. Bureaucracies tend to be, with regard to head-count and budgeted monies, inflexible downward. Self-aggrandizement is, after all, the dominant gene in the bureaucrat's DNA.
So it's time we face the possibility that our current cast of politicians, like Thelma and Louise, will not apply the brakes. What then?
The potential outcome from national bankruptcy drives some folks to stash firearms and ammunition, buy vegetable seeds, gather precious metals for bartering, and pile up dehydrated food and emergency water supplies. There's a burgeoning industry servicing those who believe a launch off the cliff is inevitable, and soon.
But there's another way this could all play out that might follow this path:
The House agrees to raise the debt limit -- just this one last time. Promise. The really, really big concessions Republicans receive in exchange for voting "Yes" to a higher debt limit turn out to be as underwhelming as the recent deal Boehner made on the 2011 budget. Diehard Republicans calm the troubled GOP waters by saying that the pending battle over the 2012 budget is what really, really matters. The GOP this time, they say, will really, really stand firm on fiscal principle when the big showdown comes. Promise.
Conservatives reluctantly postpone their expectations and await the mother of all budget battles.
Then it, too, ends in a draw, heralded by the media as a grand bipartisan compromise wherein the GOP trades a modest 2012 budget reduction -- say a couple hundred billion, but nothing approaching a "T" -- for a modest increase in taxes on the upper income bracket. Less than what Obama wants, but more than zero. It takes the votes of moderate Democrats to pass the House. It's a becomes a bipartisan group hug photo op.
GOP leaders explain how the party just can't afford to be perceived as inflexible defenders of the rich going into an election year. When Republicans control the government, they say, things will really, really change. Promise.
Conservative Republicans grimace at this outcome. But what can we do? Migrate to the New Socialist Democrat Party? Join the Libertarian hobby party? No, we're caught betwixt a rock and a hard place, déjà vu of the 2008 presidential election.
In 2012, the GOP runs a weak candidate against Obama; Obama wins. And that's the tipping point.
The Sixth Party System in American history forms around the Republican House and Senate members who trace their roots to the Tea Party Movement. They gather at a remote resort where, on their own dime, sequestered in a secure building, they hammer out a platform based on the pledge to immediately balance the budget of a federal government perched on the very cusp of going bankrupt.
Initially, they're a party within a party. But as time passes, they morph into a separate political entity, decentralized, less bureaucratic than the RNC and DNC, and lacking the hierarchical structure of both. A model of the new virtual party, if you will.
And the Sixth Party System in American is underway.
"No way," you say. "Crazy talk! It would only assure a Democrat victory!"
Yeah, you're probably right.
Because there was no way the United States could go from the world's leading creditor nation, to its biggest debtor.
There was no way much of the Middle East could erupt in riots in such a short period of time.
No way would the United States ever enter a third war this year with a Muslim nation unless attacked.
No way would TSA (Transportation Stupid Administration) officers would frisk small children.
Nor would the federal government essentially nationalize General Motors, and then market cars with
steering wheels that fall off, only to turn to two
Chinese banks -- owned by the Peoples' Republic of China, of course -- to help float an initial public stock offering (IPO) of Government Motor's stock. And there's certainly no way, looking ahead, that the PRC ends up a major stockholder of GM. (
Picture a compact electric black and white Chevy called the Panda.)
No way any of that, and more, ever happens. But, consider this:
We live in an era of American history when we should not discount even the highly unlikely as being impossible.
TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
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To: stboz
Trump is the only person who is showing real strength with his comments. He may be more of a force than people expect. His comment yesterday about wealthy Jewish backers of Obama is something no politician in America would have the courage to say. Likewise; his opinion on Iraqi oil.
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posted on
04/15/2011 7:34:49 AM PDT
by
Baynative
(Truth is treason in an empire of lies)
To: SeekAndFind
Given that we now have only one party - the Government Party, comprised of both Dems and RINOs, both contriolled by globalist entities, and both having moved well beyond the limited government our Founders sought to encode in their now thwarted efforts at a Constitution - yes: We need a new party.
But I’m afraid we will not get one without large scale bloodshed first.
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posted on
04/15/2011 7:43:27 AM PDT
by
dagogo redux
(A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
To: SeekAndFind
It will not be a third party.
There is only one party now the Rino-Dem party.
The rest of us are only hanging on to the fringe’s
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posted on
04/15/2011 7:57:45 AM PDT
by
Venturer
To: SeekAndFind
If the GOP runs a liberal in 2012 (Romney, especially), all bets are off. If a decent conservative runs under the Tea Party banner, I will donate to, work, and vote for that candidate.
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posted on
04/15/2011 8:04:30 AM PDT
by
Antoninus
(Fight the homosexual agenda. Support marriage -- www.nationformarriage.org)
To: SeekAndFind
Half of Democrats are to the right of half of Republicans.
Until this changes, there is really only one party.
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posted on
04/15/2011 8:14:32 AM PDT
by
fnord
(Republicans are just the right-wing of the left-wing of American politics)
To: SeekAndFind
I'm feeling so cynical I don't even care if it does. I just cain't wait to punish my so-called conservative Rep in the next election. He has the audacity to brag about the "biggest cuts in history". Anything but Republican or Democrat. This is the first time I've ever said something like that.
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posted on
04/15/2011 8:18:14 AM PDT
by
Theophilus
(Not merely prolife, but prolific!)
To: SeekAndFind
“As we citizens hunker down in the back seat, tightening our seat belts, some of us see the cliff close enough to warrant pulling the emergency brake with the fierce urgency of now in order to avoid a Thelma & Louise event.”
Interesting article, but the writer goes off the track right here.
I wrote about this yesterday in another thread, but let me draw an analogy insofar as “putting on the brakes” is concerned.
Think for a moment of a heavy freight train going down a mountain grade. Yes, it has brakes (both for regular “service” and additional “emergency” capacity). But the sum total of the train’s brakes is capable of only so much “braking horsepower” that can be applied against the momentum of the moving train. As the train speed increases, so does the kinetic energy built up within it. A point will be reached where the train has so much forward momentum that ALL the brakes applied with the FULL AMOUNT of braking power (which is actually “emergency”) will not be able to stop it. The applied brakes might provide some retarding force and slow the train, but what can happen is the brake shoes will actually burn and melt away — and leave the train with no brakes at all. This actually happened in southern California some years’ ago, when a train overloaded with Bauxite ran away down a grade called “The Palmdale Cutoff”, then crashed and destroyed several homes (and a day or two later, a ruptured gas line caught fire and destroyed more of them).
In that wreck, when the engineer first realized the train was reaching a point where control would be lost, he went right to “full service” on the brakes (full service is the most brake you can get without going one step more to emergency). At first, there was some braking, but because the train had more weight than the brakes could handle, the brake shoes actually melted. I believe when he realized full service wasn’t enough, the guy went right to emergency, but by then the damage was done, for once the brake shoes are destroyed, there’s no way to brake the cars anymore. And that was that.
Well, told you that to tell you this:
We have accumulated so high a “mountain” of debt already — and it continues to grow at such an astronomical rate — that the “debt train” may now have so much “weight” and momentum that (like the doomed train above) there’s no way to “brake it” anymore. Even “emergency” actions may no longer prove effective.
And once that point is passed, all that remains is a wreck ahead.
And as I wrote yesterday, perhaps the only way left that the train can be “fixed” is for it to first derail and be so damaged that no one in power will be able to deny what repairs must be made to make it operable again.
Whether it will take “a new political party” to effect such repairs, I can’t say.
But I’ll offer another thought:
Most trains these days have more than one engine, running “in multiple”. In the America of today, we have two factions of thought that are so diverse that they no longer seem able to work together, or believe together. Of course, I’m referring to the red states vs. the blue states. The differences seem so un-bridgeable that it’s almost like a new Civil War could be in the offing. Even such a leftist as Jerry Brown in California admitted this a couple of days ago.
The train wreck is coming.
But AFTER the train wrecks, might the engines be repaired separately, and then “go their own ways”?
One train, down a track that leads to freedom and prosperity and the rights of the individual as envisioned more than two centuries ago by The Founders?
And the other down a multi-culti leftist track to who-knows-where?
Just sayin’....
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posted on
04/15/2011 8:23:44 AM PDT
by
Grumplestiltskin
(I may look new, but it's only deja vu!)
To: fnord
Half of Democrats are to the right of half of Republicans.
Conversely,
Half of Republicans are to the left of half of Democrats.
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posted on
04/15/2011 8:23:55 AM PDT
by
fnord
(Republicans are just the right-wing of the left-wing of American politics)
To: SeekAndFind
Straight and simple, the answer is YES....the existing parties are filled to the brim with nutless idiots. =.=
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posted on
04/15/2011 8:27:10 AM PDT
by
cranked
To: All
obama MUST be defeated in November.
Any siphoning of Republican votes this election will spell doom for this country.....
To: CitizenUSA
There is simply no good reason to create a third party when any party is ultimately controlled by voters. Do you think that those you elected are actually representing you? About 77% of the people in this Nation are opposed to national health care, but what happened? Most congresscritters have totally forgotten that they are there to represent, not rule.
If Conservatives simply left the GOP rather than trying to second guess what can be done with that leadership, there would still be a two party system. It just wouldn't be based upon the established bozos.
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posted on
04/15/2011 8:30:09 AM PDT
by
GingisK
To: CitizenUSA
You know, even during the Revolution... those that wanted a Revolution against Britain and an independent United States were in the minority.
What made the others of our nation turn in support was the fact that those that did... actually LED via words and deeds.
And the same applies here. There is only a minority now that support a new Conservative party. But should it happen, and those in it LEAD with good ideas and sound judgement, others will follow.
And then the changeover to the new political reality takes place, even though - initially, only a few backed the idea.
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posted on
04/15/2011 8:33:50 AM PDT
by
gogogodzilla
(Live free or die!)
To: Grumplestiltskin
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posted on
04/15/2011 8:34:11 AM PDT
by
GingisK
To: Maverick68
Have we accomplished much if we just get the I want to do the same thing as obama, just cheaper and slower... in obama’s place?
Both parties know what to do, one will not because of it would end its very existence, and the other party has half of its members wanting what the liberals want and the other half doesn’t have the fortitude to do what they know must be done to save the Republic.
I think we have passed the point of no return. It’s 1860 all over again and a great chasm is upon us. I don’t know what form it will take but our way of life is about to change.
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posted on
04/15/2011 8:37:20 AM PDT
by
sarge83
To: Maverick68
Any siphoning of Republican votes this election will spell doom for this country..... From observation, I don't think there is any major difference in the two parties. This Nation is doomed regardless of who sits in the oval office. The Nation is idealogically split down the middle with neither group attempting compromise. It is time to split the Nation, peacefully, with mutual consent.
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posted on
04/15/2011 8:39:18 AM PDT
by
GingisK
To: Baynative
Ecclesiastes 3:8 NIV
a time to love and a time to hate, a time for war and a time for peace.
We need the right time and someone to know that time.
To: SeekAndFind
As I understand it, several states have constitutional provisions prohibiting deficit spending, and most residents of those states (including democrats, republicans and independents) are just fine with having such restrictions on their state legislatures. So, this idea is not something that would necessarily be unpopular with the majority of the people.
We need to amend our federal constitution to require our Congress spend no more than the total of actual revenues, AND a companion provision requiring a minimum of 2/3 vote of both houses of Congress to increase taxes upon the people of the country.
This would change the whole ballgame and then we the people would have a snowball's chance of getting a runaway government under control and avoiding an economic collapse. It would not be the end of the matter, but would force our elected representatives to set national priorities and live within our means, etc.
There would be no more artificially set "debt limits" to argue about raising periodically. Instead, there would be "revenue limits" (and therefore spending limits) to deal with. If Congress wanted to add a new program, opponents would have a solid constitutional reason to give to their constituents for rejecting the new program, or would be forced to propose tax hikes to pay for it, or eliminate other spending programs equal to the cost of the proposed new program.
Imo, THIS is what fiscal conservatives should work toward and unite behind, rather than just giving up without having at least tried this first.
To: GingisK
If, as you write, our representatives won’t represent us, forming a new party isn’t going to solve the problem.
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posted on
04/15/2011 10:55:55 AM PDT
by
CitizenUSA
(Coming soon! DADT...for Christians.)
To: gogogodzilla
When someone actually makes a reasonable case for a third party, maybe then I’d consider it. The simple fact is, if conservatives don’t wield enough power to take over the Republican Party, then it’s irrational to think they’re going to win the country with an entirely new party.
Virtually every well known conservative thinker says the third party route is suicide, but some persist in their delusions of political grandeur. Again, if we can’t even muster up enough political strength and enthusiasm to move the Republican Party to the right, how are we supposed to win control of the country...from scratch...with an entirely new party???
I understand the hostility toward RINOs, but if there’s enough enthusiasm and energy for a new party, why not invest that toward reforming the Republican Party? They already have the apparatus to win national elections and millions of virtually guaranteed votes (yeah, some folks vote the party ‘cause it’s all they’ve ever done). Republicans are the best chance conservatives have of turning this country around.
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posted on
04/15/2011 11:22:48 AM PDT
by
CitizenUSA
(Coming soon! DADT...for Christians.)
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