Posted on 03/21/2011 5:05:27 AM PDT by aruanan
Don Wade and Roma will be relating the story at 7:20AM this morning about documents surfacing that show Barry Obama registered in college as a foreign student in order to get financial aid.
Listen live at LISTEN LIVE LINK.
Given that in 1961 Hawaii did not issue birth certificates to anyone other than children born within the state, it is obvious that certificate must list Hawaii as the birthplace, and that is all that matters for his eligibility.
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Lets get this settled.
The COLB images are fakes, frauds, lies and forgery. Not could be, not maybe, not suspected. They are fakes, frauds, lies and forgery. And the action is documented well as being done right inside of Obama’s own headquarters.
Factcheck images were frauds created and printed in Obama’s campaign headquarters. PERIOD.
To not bore those who have seen the details posted. They are at post #65 here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2688174/posts?q=1&;page=51
The COLB images are a ruse. Robert Gibbs lied. Period. The HDOH is evasive for good reason. And hula boy Abercrombie can not find the document himself and fires the guy who would have to keep the secrets in his new administration (Palafox).
And even Brian Schatz refused to sign-off on Obama.
And being born in the USA does not make you Article II eligible. jus sanguinis is critical to being a ‘natural born’ Citizen.
So the thread that whole charade is hanging on are these fraudulent COLB images. Well, they are frauds, fakes, forgeries. Anyone can show this. Its easy.
Yes, that is the page I am on. The research done by some of us supports that.
Shame we can’t get an official recognition on the meaning of nbC. If we could this would all be settled in a moment. There is such a tremendous refusal from nearly all in political positions - regardless of party - to even entertain the idea of defining this. This wouldn’t be the case if the true and clear answer would be in obama’s favor, and this we all know.
But we all have learned the hard way just how deep the corruption runs in all levels of “our” government, this issue has brought that to our attention in a most unique way.
And sorry to the Hannity fans, but why in hell is Hannity so FIXATED on Jindal and Rubio? The both of them being born to non-citizen parents are 14th amendment citizens. Always Hannity is going on and on about those two, but what makes them the front-runners? What about West? I’d rather have West than Jindal and Rubio tied together even if they were both nbC.
No, the original COLB could not have been authentic. The junior league morons that posted it went one step too far in their fanatical adoration of obama, the fathers race as “African” proved the fraud right from the beginning.
And he was also registered as an Indonesian nationality and he told a U.S. soldier he met in Hawaii 1980(?) he was born in Kenya, hmmm. This whole thing stinks worse than the “Famous” Swedish Surstromming!!!
At least they are little by little stirring up the smell in the cow pasture, even so is Donald Trump, hmmm!!!
As to Jindal, and Rubio:
Here are the threads where this gets discussed:
Rubio:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2622535/posts?q=1&;page=1
Jindal:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2626433/posts
I am almost certain Jindal’s parents had not been formally naturalized prior to his birth. I am not sure about Rubio’s parents.
I definitely like Jindal. I think he would be great...except....
And from his responses I think he knows he has issues and will not run. At the same time he has not directly said, I am not eligible. If he did the issue of jus sanguinis that is the 800 lb gorilla in the eligibility room would be exposed in in the propaganda machine otherwise know as MSM. And since no one - include Jindal - wants to the first domino he just avoids the question of running.
I have not see as much on Rubio. Maybe he has stars in his eyes. But its the same thing. Even if he has no intention of running due to the edibility issue he will not raise it since it would bounce back on Obama.
If these ‘native born’ Americans gave a press conference and openly declared they are specifically not running due to jus sanguinis requirements of Article II it would be a game changer.
“Radical Muslim Cleric Lied to Qualify for U.S.-Funded College Scholarship”
“A former diplomatic security agent who was tasked with investigating Awlaki immediately after the Sept. 11 attacks told Fox News that the Yemeni-American national apparently lied on his visa application to attend Colorado State University, where he studied engineering. Rather than tell U.S. immigration officials that he was born in Las Cruces, N.M., in 1971, Awlaki stated that the was foreign born, the security agent, Ray Fournier, said.
Awlaki received $20,000 in scholarship money from a U.S. government program for his schooling in Fort Collins, Colo. When asked if Awlaki was eligible, Fournier said, “No, he is absolutely forbidden to have it.””
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/04/12/radical-muslim-cleric-lied-qualify-funded-college-scholarship/
Most definitely YUP.
Jindal’s parents were here legally, for work (I think) but were not naturalized at the time he was born.
Rubio’s parents were here legally, being allowed refugees, but I can’t find anywhere that they ever naturalized. The only mention I found on Rubio’s site some time ago, was that they kinda always hoped to return to Cuba.
That it is not publicly available info makes me curious if Rubio is hiding it till he sees how successful obama is with the nbC issue. Well, in part anyway - the other reason is as you stated. F**king cowards. Why in hell does everyone invest so much in protecting this obama critter?
Lets get this settled.
The COLB images are fakes, frauds, lies and forgery. Not could be, not maybe, not suspected. They are fakes, frauds, lies and forgery. And the action is documented well as being done right inside of Obama’s own headquarters.
Factcheck images were frauds created and printed in Obama’s campaign headquarters. PERIOD.
To not bore those who have seen the details posted. They are at post #65 here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2688174/posts?q=1&;page=51
The COLB images are a ruse. Robert Gibbs lied. Period. The HDOH is evasive for good reason. And hula boy Abercrombie can not find the document himself and fires the guy who would have to keep the secrets in his new administration (Palafox).
And even Brian Schatz refused to sign-off on Obama.
And being born in the USA does not make you Article II eligible. jus sanguinis is critical to being a ‘natural born’ Citizen.
So the thread that whole charade is hanging on are these fraudulent COLB images. Well, they are frauds, fakes, forgeries. Anyone can show this. Its easy.
In the three years since the Obama COLB first appeared, there has been no investigation of that document for forgery or fraud in any jurisdiction.
“I have yet to see a single birther identify a single scholarship that was available to Indonesian citizens but not US citizens at Occidental.”
Easier to get financial aid NOW, but how about in 1980.
But to answer your question, Fulbright offered scholarships for Non-US Nationals.
http://www.cies.org/vs_scholars/vs_awards/
This page shows Indonesia...also shows Pakistan, which is where Ann Dunham was living as a FOREIGN NATIONAL during his Occidental years.
“I have yet to see a single birther identify a single scholarship that was available to Indonesian citizens but not US citizens at Occidental.”
Easier to get financial aid NOW, but how about in 1980.
But to answer your question, Fulbright offered scholarships for Non-US Nationals.
http://www.cies.org/vs_scholars/vs_awards/
This page shows Indonesia...also shows Pakistan, which is where Ann Dunham was living as a FOREIGN NATIONAL during his Occidental years.
Close, but no cigar. Fulbrights are for graduate students and faculty, not college students.
Yes, there is some aid available to foreign students, but it's much easier to get aid if you are a US citizen or permanent resident. Ask any college counselor.
As far as aid goes today, many states universities are waiving out-of-state tuition for illegal immigrants—that is a scholarship!
True enough, but that only applies to state schools. The colleges that Obama attended, Occidental and Columbia, are private.
As Occidental is an expensive private school, they can structure scholarships however they wish. Of course barry would try to maximize his tuition dollars—if he could come in as foreign student and save money, why wouldn’t he?
Because it most likely would have been easier for him to get aid as a US citizen than as a foreigner. The majority of financial aid programs, even at private collages, are subsidized by the Federal government and are only available to US citizens and permanent residents. Here's occidental's current handbook:
http://departments.oxy.edu/finaid/CMSLIVE/Oxy%20Handbook%2010-11.pdf
If you scroll down to page 8. You'll see that around half the scholarships and grants that are available are from Federal programs, which are all closed to foreigners. The rest are available to both citizens and foreigners.
This was no different in 1980. If anything, it was even harder back then for a foreigner to get aid.
But not for full time undergraduate degree programs, only graduate school. Did you even bother to read the pdf file you linked to?
According to the pdf, the only Fullbright undergraduate programs available to foreigners are exchange programs for one year or less, as well as some programs that allow them to attend specialized seminars.
Yes, his step father apparently listed him as an Indonesian national when he was 7 years old on a registration document for a PRIVATE school in Indonesia. So?
and he told a U.S. soldier he met in Hawaii 1980(?) he was born in Kenya, hmmm.
Sorry, but that's an unsubstantiated rumor.
In other words, he briefly fell for an internet hoax, planned to talk about it on his show, but before he got around to it, he figured out it was bunk.
Thought so.
Yep...
“The Benjamin A. Gilman International
Scholarship Program supports study
abroad by talented American
undergraduates with fi nancial need who represent the full
diversity of our country. The Program emphasizes nontraditional
language study as well as study in non-traditional
foreign destinations.:
Huh? So Obama claimed he was a foreigner in order to get a scholarship open only to Americans?
Nice example of birther logic.
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