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To: curiosity; autumnraine
The question was whether Fulbright offered programs only for scholars and graduate students or for undergraduates also. That's the only question I was answering as should have been evident by the scope. Also, the question was not whether there were "full time undergraduate degree programs" through Fulbright, simply if Fulbright had programs for undergraduates as well as for graduate students and scholars. It sort of undermines your position to refine your objections in an ad hoc way as your original assertion, which I quoted, is disproved.
220 posted on 03/22/2011 1:50:26 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan; autumnraine
The question was whether Fulbright offered programs only for scholars and graduate students or for undergraduates also.

Actually, no, that's not question. The question is whether there are any scholarships that Obama could have received as an Indonesian but not as an American to study as a full-time, matriculated undergraduate at Occidental.

One of you two (I forget which one) responded that the Fullbright was one of those. I responded that no, it's not, because the Fullbright is for graduate students and scholars.

Technically, I turned out not to be exactly right. Fullbright does have some undergraduate schoarships , even though the the vast majority of their scholarships are for graduate students. Unfortunately for the birther case, none of the undergarduate Fullbright scholarships pay for foreigners to enroll as full-time matriculated students at US colleges. All of the undergraduate scholarships are for short-term exchange programs lasting a year or less, or for travel to attend seminars.

Hence it is not plausible that Obama lied about his nationality to get a Fullbright scholarship to go to Occidental, because, simply put, there are no such scholarships that pay foreigners to enroll as full time, matriculated undergraduate students at US universities.

So yes, on a minor detail I was wrong and you were right. But in terms of the big picture, it turns out I was right and you were wrong.

223 posted on 03/22/2011 2:50:12 PM PDT by curiosity
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