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Muslims Getting Unfair Scrutiny From Congress (Cry Me A River Barf Alert!!!)
IBD Editorials ^ | March 7, 2011 | Left wing lunatic RICHARD COHEN

Posted on 03/07/2011 4:43:33 PM PST by Kaslin

Unlike Moses Herzog, the eponymous character of Saul Bellow's novel "Herzog," I do not feverishly compose mad letters to public figures and sinister government agencies (the IRS, for instance). But I often yell back at the TV set.

This happened Sunday when Candy Crowley on CNN asked Rep. Peter King what his hearings into Muslim radicalism are really about. "Good luck, Candy," I yelled, having asked the same question of King's staff just the day before.

Here, I am sure, is the answer: The hearings are about Pete King.

King is the chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee. On Thursday, he will inaugurate hearings into something or other. Their official title is "The Extent of Radicalization in the American Muslim Community and That Community's Response."

The last part — "That Community's Response" — is already clear when it comes to King. The Muslim American community has taken umbrage and has demonstrated its outrage in, among other places, King's district on Long Island. King thinks they are being overly sensitive.

It happens to be an awkward fact that just last month, a University of North Carolina terrorism expert, Charles Kurzman, reported a drop in attempted or actual terrorist activity by American Muslims — 47 perpetrators and suspects in 2009, 20 in 2010.

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1 posted on 03/07/2011 4:43:37 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

15 years ago King’s committee held hearings on so called right wing militias after Ok City. No one especially media issued a complaint.


2 posted on 03/07/2011 4:48:15 PM PST by xkaydet65 (IACTA ALEA EST!!!)
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To: Kaslin

The commie libs sure do love their muzzies. I guess they’re hoping for another 9/11 so they’ll have more BS to yak about on TV. The Charlie Sheen thing is wearing thin.


3 posted on 03/07/2011 4:51:05 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Just say NO to union greed!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

The commie libs sure do love their muzzies.


They need anti-Christian, anti-American thugs for their global revolution.


4 posted on 03/07/2011 4:55:09 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Kaslin

Why don’t the muzzies look at this as a chance to exonerate the Religion of Peace, if indeed that is what it is?

Because they can’t. The evidence is against them and they know it.


5 posted on 03/07/2011 4:55:09 PM PST by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: Kaslin
Rep. King's hearings will be toothless at best. He refused to call Muslim experts such as Robert Spencer and Steve Emerson were barred becaused Pete Kin only wanted Muslims testify -- such as Rep. Keith Ellison.

Pete King will get a belly full of Taqiyya (Islamic lying) from the skewed sample of witnesses he does call.

And people will be further in ignorance and more soldiers or whoever will die as that seems to be the preferred target of th jihadists these days.

6 posted on 03/07/2011 4:58:34 PM PST by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: Kaslin
I don't understand how the literal 21st century heirs of the Nazi tradition can fail to understand why they are under scrutiny.

That being said, I have no idea what Pete King's motivations are. I can only infer that, as a professional politician, they are self-serving to the exclusion of all else.

7 posted on 03/07/2011 5:04:33 PM PST by Dr. Sheldon Cooper (The truth can indeed be a finger-down-the-throat for those unprepared to hear it.)
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To: Kaslin

I have been sending my friends this info. It is time we stop being so ignorant of the real Islam.

“Just a few notes about “Sharia Laws for non-Muslims”. Dr. Bill Warner, from Nashville,Tn, has conducted extensive studies of Sharia, Islam, Muslims - Laws - Customs - History.

Some links follow :

www.politicalislam.com - Papers by Dr. Bill Warner and Bio.

http://actwestnashville.com/?page_id=544 - 14 audio MP3 Presentations (about 20 minutes each)

I encourage you to read his 2-28-11 paper and at least listen to the 1st Audio “Introduction” and the 14th Audio “Conclusion”.

Dr. Bill Warner Bio -

Bill Warner
Bill Warner holds a PhD in physics and math, NC State University, 1968. He has been a university professor, businessman, and applied physicist.

He was a Member of the Technical Staff in solid-state physics at the Sarnoff Princeton Laboratories in the area of integrated circuit structures. During the energy crisis of the 80’s he founded and ran a company that specialized in energy efficient homes. For eight years he was a professor at Tennessee State University in the Engineering School.
Dr. Warner has had a life-long interest in religion and its effects on history. He has studied the source texts of the major religions for decades. Even before the destruction of the World Trade Center he had predicted the war between Islam and America. The day after 9/11 he decided to make the source texts of Islam available for the average person.

Dr. Warner’s training in scientific theory and mathematics shaped how he analyzed Islamic doctrine. The first step was realizing that the Islamic texts had been made deliberately difficult to read and comprehend. A program, the Trilogy Project (see below), was created to strip away the confusion in the texts. It became clear that Islam is not constructed on the same civilizational principles as the rest of the world. Simple statistical methods revealed that dualism and submission were the foundational principles of Islamic doctrine.

Statistical methods applied to the Islamic texts showed that:
· Islam is far more of a political system than a religion.
· There is no unmitigated good in Islam for the Kafir (non-Muslim).
· Islam’s ethical system is dualistic and is not based on the Golden Rule.
· Islamic doctrine cannot be reconciled with our concepts of human rights and our Constitution.
· The great majority, 96%, of all Islamic doctrine about women subjugates them.
· The Sunna (what Mohammed did and said) is more important than the Koran in a Muslim’s daily life.

Dr. Warner coined the term, Foundational School of Islamic studies, which holds that Islam is found in the Trilogy of Koran, Sira and Hadith. All evaluation of Islamic history and current activity is caused by the doctrine found in this Trilogy. Therefore, it is impossible to understand any Muslim or Islamic action without knowing the doctrine that is its cause.

Dr. Warner postulates that there are three independent views of Islam that are not reconcilable. The three views are believer-centric, dhimmi-centric and Kafir-centric. The believer-centric view is the view of a Muslim. Dhimmi-centric is based upon the apologetic view of non-Muslims. Kafir-centric is the view of the non-Muslim. A comprehensive knowledge of Islam must include all three. These views cannot be resolved, but each must stand-alone.

Dr. Warner founded the Center for the Study of Political Islam (CSPI) and is its director. He has produced a dozen books, including a Koran, a biography of Mohammed and a summary of the political traditions of Mohammed. He also developed the first self-study course on Political Islam. He has given talks nationally and internationally about Islamic political doctrine. He writes articles and produces news Bulletins that record the suffering of the victims caused by Political Islam.
The Trilogy Project
The Trilogy Project was developed to make Islam’s three sacred texts, Koran, Sira and Hadith understandable. It was based upon scientific principles and objective methods, so that any independent person could achieve the same results if they used the same methods.
All Islamic doctrine is based on words of Allah and the Sunna (words and actions) of Mohammed. Allah is found in the Koran and Mohammed is found in the Sira (biography) and the Hadith (traditions). All of Islam is based on Koran, Sira, and Hadith. If it is in the Trilogy, it is Islam. If it is not in the Trilogy, then it is not Islam. To know Islam, know the Trilogy.
The problem in knowing the Trilogy is that the Koran, Sira and Hadith were designed to be difficult to understand. There is only one way for them to be understood-they must be viewed as a systemic whole, not three separate books.
The books had to be fact-based and self-authenticating. In a sense, each book had to be a map to the original text. Nearly every paragraph in the CSPI book series has a reference number that allows the reader to go to the source text and verify what is written. If you don’t believe it or want more details, you can go the reference number and read the original.
Here is an example from Mohammed and the Unbelievers, the Sira:
I552 The assassins’ wounded friend lagged behind, so they carried him back with them. When they got back to Mohammed, he was praying. They told him they had killed the enemy of Allah and their attack had terrorized all the Jews. There was no Jew in Medina who was not afraid.
Here is the source text: Ishaq margin note 552:
552 Our friend al-Harith had lagged behind, weakened by loss of blood, so we waited for him for some time until he came up, following our tracks. We carried him and brought him to the apostle [Mohammed] at the end of the night. We saluted him as he stood praying, and he came out to us, and we told him that we had killed God’s enemy. He spat upon our comrade’s wounds, and both he and we returned to our families. Our attack upon God’s enemy cast terror among the Jews, and there was no Jew in Medina who did not fear for his life.
The Hadith, collected by Bukhari, has over 6800 traditions. The text is confusing since there is so much repetition. The same tradition may be repeated a dozen times. Only about a quarter of the traditions relate to politics, the rest are purely religious. The first step is to collect all the traditions that deal with Kafirs. The Kafir material is political, since it deals with those outside of Islam. Then all of those that are similar, or nearly identical, are summarized into a single tradition. This method makes all of the political traditions easily understood. The remaining traditions apply only to Muslims and are of little interest to Kafirs.

Collecting those traditions that apply to Kafirs and summarizing the repeated ones clarifies the text and makes Political Islam simple to understand. This work resulted in The Political Traditions of Mohammed.

The Koran is made readable by reproducing the historical Koran of Mohammed’s day. This is accomplished by arranging the Koran in the original order (the one in the bookstore is arranged in order of chapter length). Then the similar sections are combined (for instance, the story of Moses is told 39 times). The final step is to take Mohammed’s life from the Sira and integrate it into the Koran verses to give the verses context. These steps reproduce the historical Koran. The resulting document is now easily read, A Simple Koran.

Anyone can take these same steps and produce similar versions of the original Trilogy. A team of people including a political scientist, a classics scholar, English literature majors and a physicist did the actual writing of both the Simple Koran and the Political Traditions. Each was chosen for their ability to read complex texts and write clearly. We used Middle East experts or Arabic scholars for resolving contradictions and historical background.

People assume that you must understand Arabic or have a university degree in Islam to understand Islam’s texts. However, look at these scholars’ history. After 1400 years they have produced scholarly papers for presentations at scholarly meetings, but they have not made the material available to the common person.

The work stands on its own. The only person that matters in discussing Islam is not the “expert” but Mohammed.”


8 posted on 03/07/2011 5:04:42 PM PST by TNoldman (Call 1911 not 911!)
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To: xkaydet65

That does not surprise me


9 posted on 03/07/2011 5:10:52 PM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin
I always find it funny when someone dances naked on the coffee table with a lampshade on their heads, and then gets upset when people look at them or comment on it.

Here's a hint CAIR...stop being freakin' terrorists, and maybe people won't talk so bad about you - well, maybe you could stop wiping your butt with your bare hands too, it might help with your acceptance in CIVILIZATION.
10 posted on 03/07/2011 5:26:16 PM PST by FrankR (The Evil Are Powerless If The Good Are Unafraid! - R. Reagan)
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To: Kaslin
Muslims Getting Unfair Scrutiny From Congress


11 posted on 03/07/2011 6:15:08 PM PST by Bobalu ( "Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother." ..Moshe Dayan:)
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To: Kaslin


Maybe we oughtta just traipse on over to namby-pamby land and see if we can't find 'em some self-esteem, the jackwagons!
12 posted on 03/07/2011 6:24:48 PM PST by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!)
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To: Stepan12

Don’t know why he wouldn’t call on Spencer or Emerson, but he could certainly call on the following (first two are Muslim, last two are Lebanese (Christian), all of whom are experts and spokespeople against radical Islam who DO tell the truth as opposed to the likes of Keith Ellison:

Dr. Zuhdi Jasser, pres. and founder, Islamic Forum for Democracy (frequent guest on Glenn Beck and other FNC shows)

Raheel Raza, board member, Muslim Canadian Congress (brave lady who speaks out against radical Islam and the ground zero mosque - here’s a link to her interview on O’Reilly:
http://www.therightscoop.com/muslim-raheel-raza-speaks-out-against-ground-zero-mosque-on-oreilly/

Dr. Walid Phares, author/spokesman/terrorism consultant (frequent guest on FNC and contributor to Iranium the movie)

Brigitte Gabriel, author/speaker/terrorism consultant (frequent tv guest and panelist)

They’re all middle eastern with first-hand knowledge of the Muslim culture/community.

Since these hearings are getting (or will) worldwide attention, King had better get it right - there may never be a second chance. He really needs to use experts like the above at least, or risk being played by lying Muslims trotted out by the opposition.


13 posted on 03/07/2011 8:26:49 PM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!!)
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To: llandres
Dr. Zuhdi Jasser, pres. and founder, Islamic Forum for Democracy (frequent guest on Glenn Beck and other FNC shows)

Jasser is a fantasist. He makes out Islam to be more reasonable that it really is.

I doubt Rep. King will call Bridgitte Gabriel as she is not Muslim -- big mistake!

14 posted on 03/07/2011 8:41:05 PM PST by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: Kaslin

We need a book called “Islam for Dummies (or Dhimmies)”

While SOME Muslims may be peaceful folk who are just happy to be here and have no desire to impose their belief system on us - they are a minority.

Islam calls for the imposition of Sharia Law on the entire world and a one religion theocracy everywhere.

The clowns who masquerade as our political leaders need to stop this farce about Islam being just another religion. Its NOT.


15 posted on 03/07/2011 9:21:53 PM PST by ZULU (No nation which ever attempted to tolerate Islam, escaped total Islamization.)
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To: Stepan12

“I doubt Rep. King will call Bridgitte Gabriel as she is not Muslim — big mistake!”

As I posted, the first two on my list are Muslims, the last two are Lebanese Christians - but they’re all middle-eastern with first-hand knowledge/experience in Muslim culture.

Yes, Zuhdi is a moderate who loves living in America (he’s a doc in Phoenix and has served on staff with the Congressional physician), but I’ve heard him acknowledge and speak out on radical Islam many times. As for Raza, she’s a firecracker and I’d bet she has to have protection/bodyguards. I even heard her debate with a radical once and she really waged good verbal battle.

As for Walid and Brigitte, while they’re not Muslim, they’re from the middle east and intimately experienced with Islam, and I think they have sufficient street cred to be called upon.


16 posted on 03/07/2011 9:32:35 PM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!!)
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To: llandres
Since these hearings are getting (or will) worldwide attention, King had better get it right.....He really needs to use experts like the above at least, or risk being played by lying Muslims trotted out by the opposition.

It sounds depressingly like Sen. Fred Thompson's "Chinagate" committee investigation. Fred bent over backwards to be "fair" ..... and Democratic partisan demon-dogs like Jamie Gorelick and Richard Benveniste screwed him like a two-dollar hooker.

17 posted on 03/08/2011 1:22:43 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: Bobalu

Muslims Getting Unfair Scrutiny From Congress

If we don’t LEARN from history...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reed_Smoot_hearings


18 posted on 03/08/2011 6:01:44 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: lentulusgracchus

At least I saw just now that Dr. Zuhdi Jasser (one of the four I listed in a post) will be testifying at the Thurs. hearings, enthused to do it. Too bad that it sounds like King will be starting out with Keith Ellison saying his spiel, though.


19 posted on 03/08/2011 2:59:09 PM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!!)
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