Posted on 02/16/2011 7:38:10 AM PST by Rational Thought
A new poll shows just over half of likely Republican primary voters question where President Obama was born. Whats up with birtherism and why does it have such staying power?
The evidence shows Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961. During the 2008 presidential campaign, Obama released a Certification of Live Birth, a document produced by the state of Hawaii certifying the state holds records that a person was born there.
Further, two Hawaiian newspaper announcements from 1961 tell of Obamas birth. Janice Okubo, a spokeswoman for the Hawaii Department of Health, told the Honolulu Advertiser in July 2009 that such newspaper announcements were based on notifications from the Health Department, which received information directly from hospitals.
The certification of live birth Obama released is legally sufficient documentation to apply for a U.S. passport, but its not the same thing as a long form birth certificate, called a Certificate of Live Birth in Hawaii. That document is issued by hospitals and includes additional information not on the certification.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...
I’ve read comments from a couple of people on FR - maybe you were one of them? - that did hear an exchange between 0bummer and Keyes about 0bummer not being eligible for President. Apparently it was in between or after the “official” debate. Were you one of the people that heard and saw this?
Heres the story: Nelson was having dinner at the Outrigger Canoe Club on Waikiki Beach with Dr. West, the father of her college friend, Jo-Anne. Making conversation, Nelson turned to Dr. West and said: So, tell me something interesting that happened this week, she recalls. His response: Well, today, Stanley had a baby. Now thats something to write home about. The new mother was Stanley (later referred to by her middle name of Ann) Dunham, and the baby was Barack Hussein Obama.
The thing that makes the story so interesting is that the birth certificate that is offered as 'authentic' states plainly that Obama was born at 7:24 p.m. which would be at about the same time she claimed she was having dinner with the delivery doctor.
Lol! You’re on a roll. Next you’ll tel me you’re a deeply underground DU mole, spying on Doubters, a.k.a. Birthers. The walls have ears!
Well it’s too late; we’re all Birthers now. With the exception of BOR and toad blossom, or whatever the has-been Rove is called.
Face it, you backed the wrong horse, Professor A. Your protege is doing down—and taking the Dem Party with him. Hosta la vista, trolls. You’ll all face IRS audits in the coming administration. snicker snicker.
[Oops, just remembered my grade. It’s circling the bowl, isn’t it? Oh well; maybe I can retake the course in 2012, and ace it then. ;) ]
He authorized them to do post the - well, whatever it was they posted.
“Fight the Smears” was an Obama campaign website.
Anecdotal. Ive also seen comments from a few prominent Democrats on the topic.
You can pretend that this controversy is restricted to the right fringe of the Republican Party, but youre just sticking your head in the sand. Many, many people now believe that something is wrong here.
I dont know where you live, but I now see quite a few Birther bumper stickers
Just click on over to Hillbuzz, there aren’t many conservatives there. They cover the birther issues as well.
The thing that makes the story so interesting is that the birth certificate that is offered as ‘authentic’ states plainly that Obama was born at 7:24 p.m. which would be at about the same time she claimed she was having dinner with the delivery doctor.
He must have “telecommuted” that evening.
Actually dingbat, I back up my statements. What you do is spout non sequiturs and cut and paste willy nilly in an attempt to imply things that are not so or to mislead.
So I guess all that verbiage boils down to RedSteel STILL telling us that its a waste of time to formally investigate whether Obama committed any criminal acts that would be impeachable offenses because of flaws in the Grand Jury system.
"All that verbiage" proves what I stated before OBot, as to
"Who runs grand juries these days? That would be government prosecutors"
While you spew nonsense as in that I saw some "movie" or something about "cameras and traffic lights" - you are idiot. I can walk the talk.
Who knew that Grand Juries are one size fits all?
Grand juries were the fourth branch of government to keep in check corrupt government official who were in the branches, but not so today. To quote the Creighton U. Law Review again:
"The federal courts were quick to uphold the federal rules when it came to deciding matters relating to the grand jury. In almost cyclical logic, the federal courts have claimed in near unison that presentments accusing unindicted persons of crime cannot be allowed, absent judge or prosecutor approval, "past unchallenged practice" notwithstanding.[100] Thus, hundreds of years of grand jury jurisprudence was overthrown by codification.[101]"
Gooberment officials did not like the idea of being investigated for wrong doing by grand juries, therefore, they are now controlled by the prosecutors.
In lieu of a criminal investigation by a skilled prosecutor, lets roll out a few more civil suits with plaintiffs who dont have standing so that a few more judges can summarily dismiss those lawsuits. Were at ninty dismissals as of now.
Hello Obot, an honest judge would let Obama defend his presidency on the merits of his case instead of hiding behind the court doctrine of standing.
Nah, DUers are rightwing nuts compared to the ol' prof.
you backed the wrong horse, Professor A. Your protege is doing downand taking the Dem Party with him.
My protégé turned to be a horse's ass. Have you ever heard of a homosexual horse? Maybe Penguins, but a horse?
No doubt in my mind that the communist party is going down because nobody is buying their boss's horseshit!
Papa Alinsky, Ph.D. in mares NOT homohorsexuals
That is an interesting account. Barbara Nelson claims to have had dinner with the doctor who delivered Barack Obama on the very day he was born.
Heres the story: Nelson was having dinner at the Outrigger Canoe Club on Waikiki Beach with Dr. West, the father of her college friend, Jo-Anne. Making conversation, Nelson turned to Dr. West and said: So, tell me something interesting that happened this week, she recalls. His response: Well, today, Stanley had a baby. Now thats something to write home about. The new mother was Stanley (later referred to by her middle name of Ann) Dunham, and the baby was Barack Hussein Obama.
The thing that makes the story so interesting is that the birth certificate that is offered as ‘authentic’ states plainly that Obama was born at 7:24 p.m. which would be at about the same time she claimed she was having dinner with the delivery doctor.
Yes, I realize it's spread beyond the fringe of the Republic party, much to the detriment of both the GOP and the conservative movement. However, I've seen little evidence to suggest it has spread to voters who are even remotely likely to vote Obama. If and when that happens, Obama will quell the controversy. Until then, it benefits him to divide his opposition by keeping the controversy going.
The people writing your posts were making it up out of thin air. If Obama had really said it, don't you think Keyes, himself a birther, would be shouting it from the rooftops? And yet Keyes has yet to mention it. Don't you find that at all curious?
While you spew nonsense as in that I saw some “movie” or something about “cameras and traffic lights” - you are idiot. I can walk the talk.
Good attorneys also know how to find and present plaintiffs who will be granted standing.
Not a single one of the major conservative law firms in America has represented a birther plaintiff. For example, why isn’t Mark Levin’s Landmark Legal Foundation representing Obama ineligibility plaintiffs and doing it “pro bono?”
Liars seldom admit their lies when they are called on them. They make excuses for themselves and try to claim their lies are honest mistakes, just as Evans did.
Seriously, why do you put so much trust in such a two-bit hack?
Who you gonna believe, Evans after hes been told to change his story, or your lyin ears?
I don't believe anything he says, period. He's a proven liar with no credibility.
Here is the real story about doctor West who retired in 1956 from delivering babies some five years before OBummer was born. This is a screen grab that was captured about 24 hours or less that contradicts the silly BS story when it first came out:
US v. Wong Kim Ark.
Why, you haven’t seen the twin’s long form birth certificates posted, birth at the same time a few day apart???
So Twit, when is a lame/main stream media type going to come out by asking Obama to where he was born, and ask him to authorize the media to see his original birth certificate?
You know Twit, to finally get Obama on record stating he was born in Hawaii instead of having the same stupid talking heads at MSPMSNBC talk among themselves. All this going through a third party from his mouth pieces like Roberta Gibbs is all BS. And moreover, have the Lame Press ask him about all the other associated questions about his hidden past that swirl around the country like his social security numbers?
When is this going to happen OBot? It just that easy so what is the problem with the media?
You mean like the “long form” belonging to the Nordyke twins?!
Born 8/5/61 at Kapiolani?
Well, here ya go.
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=105347
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