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Breaking News & LIVE THREAD- Egypt and Middle East
Various on the internet | 28 January 2011

Posted on 01/28/2011 9:14:48 AM PST by SE Mom

From FOX:

DEVELOPING: Loud explosions and gunfire were heard in the Egyptian capital of Cairo Friday, as protesters demanding the removal of President Hosni Mubarak defied a curfew, Al Jazeera reported. Egyptian television reports the ruling party headquarters in Cairo are on fire.

From TWITTER:

WashingtonPost: Clinton: We urge #Egypt authorities to allow peaceful protest, reverse unprecedented steps it has taken to cut off communications less than 20 seconds ago


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To: Padams
CNN asking him why US didn’t install a loyal opposition years ago.

As if the US could just wave her magic wand and make it so.

341 posted on 01/28/2011 11:03:18 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: ResponseAbility

“What the US should always advocate is a Republic that recognizes God given rights in Constitutional form”

Which god are we talking about here? If it’s allah, it’s a problem, thanks to the sword verses in the Quran. Under allah, beating your four wives is a right for some.

I’m not sure how easy it is anymore to distinguish between Arab people and Muslim people, at least from the US.

Parliament is the best these guys are going to be able to do. The problem’s going to be whether a business will be able to enforce a contract, or whether workers have the right to own property, or whether freedom of speech and assembly will be permitted. Without those, you don’t have a free market. Free markets follow free peoples.


342 posted on 01/28/2011 11:03:30 AM PST by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: SE Mom

We don’t have a leader who I have 100% confidence in right now. Well not a flesh and blood one.


343 posted on 01/28/2011 11:03:38 AM PST by brytlea
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To: brytlea

If Mubarak is fleeing the country, I have a feeling that there will be no military quashing of this uprising.


344 posted on 01/28/2011 11:03:49 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: NeoCaveman

Democracy/freedom are both anathma was the point.


345 posted on 01/28/2011 11:04:11 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: SE Mom

State Dept briefing cancelled.

Frmr Amb Walker on CNN advocating throwing Mubarek under the bus.


346 posted on 01/28/2011 11:04:36 AM PST by Padams
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To: DoughtyOne
I don't always agree with you but I sure do on this issue.

We have friends that lived in Iran under the Shah's rule and when he was overthrown.

Our friend was a young girl and there are still things she won't talk about. Luckily, since I'm writing about them, they were able to flee to the U.S.

This uprising is not a good thing!

347 posted on 01/28/2011 11:04:52 AM PST by CAluvdubya (Don't retreat...reload!.....and no, I'm not changing my tagline! Pray for Sarah and her family)
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“Terror and Shariah: The Future of Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood”
Posted by Seth Mandel Oct 1st 2010
“Big Peace”

http://bigpeace.com/smandel/2010/10/01/terror-and-shariah-the-future-of-hamas-and-the-muslim-brotherhood/


348 posted on 01/28/2011 11:05:05 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Padams

If this isn’t the Shah and the Ayatollah all over again...

CNN guy said a few minutes ago that this is the largest “pro-democracy demonstration in the history of Egypt”...

Uhm no, CNN, this is a pro-islamist demonstration, run and probably well-financed by assorted bad guys.


349 posted on 01/28/2011 11:05:29 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: rarestia

WH just delayed the Gibbs briefing indefinitely. WH struggling what to say about protests in Egypt and how strongly to say it.

Notice how today the media and Govt have started using the words “egyptian regime”...not really used before.


350 posted on 01/28/2011 11:05:34 AM PST by sunmars
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To: PIF

The MB would be up for an election, because they would win.

That was my point, the majority is a bunch of freedom-hating Islamists.


351 posted on 01/28/2011 11:05:40 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Touch my tagline and I'll have you arrested)
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To: Padams
State issued travel warning for Egypt.

THAT is the White House response? Like any thinking person needs the gubbermint to tell them that.

352 posted on 01/28/2011 11:05:48 AM PST by Never on my watch (WTF happened to my country?)
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To: rarestia

I used a gang analogy earlier. I think it’s fitting, because it helps us to understand what the atmosphere is like in places like Egypt.

There you have Islamic sects. You have radical Islamicists. They vie for power. Each thinks the other Sect is unfaithful to Islam. It’s unreasonable to think there wouldn’t be a strong man in charge of a nation whose make-up is like this.

Mubarak doesn’t stand for fair elections like our leaders (hopefully) in the West do. That still doesn’t mean he is on the order of a Saddam Hussein. He is more of an enlightened leader than other leaders in the Middle-East and Africa are. No, he is by no means perfect, but harping on him being a thus isn’t necessarily true either.

In a situation where you either exhibit strong will or watch your nation crumble, you project a strong will.

Mubarak is not my favorite guy by any stretch of the imagination. Still, what follows him in this conflict, is ten times worse for everyone.

He has anarchists on his streets. I wish him good luck.

I’ve seen anarchists on our streets first hand, and they have provided reasons why we should never back the likes of these rabble-rousers.

If were talking about a nation that wants to truly set up a free society like Poland wanted when under Russia’s thumb, I say great. When we’re talking about radical Islamicists, hell no.


353 posted on 01/28/2011 11:05:57 AM PST by DoughtyOne (All hail the Kenyan Prince Obama, Lord of the Skid-mark, constantly soiling himself and our nation.)
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To: SE Mom

I, for one, think Obama and his “Apology Tour” helped this situation come about sooner than it may have without it. Years of delicate international negotiations from a point of strength by the United States was largely negated by Obama’s bowing and scraping on our behalf.

Despite Obama’s and Hilary Clintons “Muslims are our brothers” nonsense, radical Islam continues to grow as the enemy of freedom across the world. Angela Merkle has, so far been the only world leader brave enough to sound the alarm in no uncertain terms. I’m not sure but I think she has since been silenced.

When they become strong enough and think the United States leadership is weak enough, (I think that’s pretty close right now) they will make their concerted move to utterly destroy Israel. The coming days might be surprising in the revelation of who Israel’s and our friends are or if we have any at all.

I’m personally not expecting much from Obama or his administration on this. We just might find out some surprising things about our own “leader” in these trying times. Remember what he said in his book about who he would side with if push comes to shove? I have no doubt that applies to international affairs as well.


354 posted on 01/28/2011 11:05:57 AM PST by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: Never on my watch
Ditto. Until R9 can offer someone better, he's just whining.

Looks like somebody else can't summon up common courtesy....

Haley Barbour, Mitch Daniels.

Because "someone better" should be able to a) finish at least one term as governor, and b) have actual big-time accomplishments.

355 posted on 01/28/2011 11:06:17 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Fishtalk

Still waiting for those ten things you know Mubarak did that make him an oppressive leader.


356 posted on 01/28/2011 11:06:47 AM PST by DoughtyOne (All hail the Kenyan Prince Obama, Lord of the Skid-mark, constantly soiling himself and our nation.)
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To: PIF
r9etb sounds like a Shuckaby, Romney, Paul supporter IMHO.

And another mannerless twit.

FYI, I just called them idiots, too.

357 posted on 01/28/2011 11:07:08 AM PST by r9etb
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To: sunmars

Oh to be a fly on the wall in the situation room!


358 posted on 01/28/2011 11:07:08 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Art in Idaho
I hate to say this, but my first thought was, "How is Obama going to milk this crisis for a few poll points?"

He wouldn't know how to put his underware on if it weren't for someone telling him - he's clueless.

Maybe people are just sick of dictators and oppressive centralized governments. Just maybe?

From what I hear it is the moslem brotherhood that has things sturred up. If that is the case, it goes beyond that, but an attempt at an islamic overthrow by the radicals. Say what you will, the stability of the relationship between Israel and Egypt has been one of the shining stars for peace in the region.

BTW, also on the news, the moslem brotherhood is sturring up riots in Jordan as well today.

359 posted on 01/28/2011 11:07:15 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: SE Mom; All

” The only one is Reagan, and he’s not available. We are in a heap of s#it. “

This is a request to all of the Sarahbots and Anti-Sarahbots that are trying to hijack this thread - please take it somewhere else!!!

Sarah is NOT our President, and has no chance of being our President in the next few months, which is when this whole mess will be playing itself out....

The noise-to-news ratio here is bad enough without your bickering adding to it...

/rant


360 posted on 01/28/2011 11:07:22 AM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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