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Posted on 01/28/2011 9:14:48 AM PST by SE Mom
From FOX:
DEVELOPING: Loud explosions and gunfire were heard in the Egyptian capital of Cairo Friday, as protesters demanding the removal of President Hosni Mubarak defied a curfew, Al Jazeera reported. Egyptian television reports the ruling party headquarters in Cairo are on fire.
From TWITTER:
WashingtonPost: Clinton: We urge #Egypt authorities to allow peaceful protest, reverse unprecedented steps it has taken to cut off communications less than 20 seconds ago
If only.. I believe it's been 29 years!
I agree with 100% You (the USA) can't call yourself an advocate of democracy only when it suits your interests. It's so obviously hypocritical that your undermining whatever good-will or reputation that you have.
I am late to the party, was in the back with the TV on mute. For some reason this feels a little like when the Ayatolla came back to Iran....
I'd hate to see these people lose their history like the Afghans did.
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As predicted. What the turmoil doesn't destroy, the MB will, including all the pyramids... These are the “if something is in the koran, then it is superfluous and must be destroyed. If something is not in the koran, then it is anathema and must be destroyed” folks.
Welcome to the start of the next world war, and the first nuclear war.
We here can only hope some one uses the ‘5MT Solution’ on Mecca and Medina and ends this vile political movement masquerading as a religion.
Well, you won't have to worry about them being killed much longer. The Islamic Republic of Egypt that is about to overthrow your hated dictator will see to it that the Coptic Christians will be chopped into little pieces.
And that Fishtalk person has apparently forgotten common courtesy.
As for Sarah Palin -- I think she's a grifter: an over-ambitious, under-experienced con artist who has no business being considered as a serious presidential contender.
We've already seen what happens when over-ambitious, under-experienced con artists can do.... I don't think we need any more of that crap.
This is the sort of situation that SHOULD make folks take stock of what a real president looks like on the day he takes office. You want to have real confidence in his judgment and abilities -- merely hoping is not sufficient.
It's time for a lot of FReepers to grow up a little, and start looking for serious candidates who can deal with the real world.
God bless you Allegra! I hope they get you out of there soon, under the current “Rules of Disengagement”, there is not much you can do to win against this evil.
Combat by the Old Rules was difficult enough. I cannot imagine how you can do it under this Coward in Chief! And in command to boot!
CNN reporting protesters are protesting because there is no opposition in government. People want change. Older men trying to cool down the radical young element.
Thanks for bringing that up, it’s what I was thinking about.
The Isrealis have fled the Israeli embassy in Cairo in helicopters.
Mubarak is finished.
Holy crap. This looks like it might not end too well.
It means the police attacked him, apparently, and arrested him.
But -- and this is important -- the man is not dead, and he's probably not being tortured. I don't think he's all that swell a fellow, but he's probably the best chance we've got when it comes to trying to help Egypt avoid total chaos.
The wife & son had already left:
“’Beginning of the end’ for Egypt’s Mubarak as son and wife flee’”(from 1/26)
Perhaps. But the US has no business defending the indefensible. We just have to stand on principle, and I think it goes without saying that cutting off all Internet and phone service while teargassing everyone aren't pricniples we can get behind. We have to condemn those things and just hope for the best.
I kindof short changed you there.
In 1976 Jimmy Carter became president. He was a milk-toast loon. His most famous quote was that the United States’ best days were behind it. We would have to learn to accept our new status.
Carter fancied himself a Christian’s Christian. He took one look at the Shah and a few other world leaders, and announced he wasn’t going to play ball with what he thought were bad world leaders.
So good old Jimmy not only cut off support of the Shah, but being the good Christan he was, he even refused to let the Shah come to the U. S. to get treatment for Cancer. The Shah (our ally) had to go nation hopping to get treatment. Within a year or so he was dead.
Meanwhile, after Jimmy had worked his magic, the Ayatollah’s took over Iran. There purges took place that made the Shah look like a boy scout. The women were forbidden to attend school. They had to put back on the window dressings of Islam, the veil and the black robes. Shariah law ruled the day. Women were back to being cattle and anyone that wasn’t a devout Islamicist was in danger of being killed.
Not only was Iran turned into a hell-hole, but it’s radical leadership set up terrorist camps and proliferated that sort of thing to other nations around the region. What we are seeing today is in no small measure, a result of Iran’s blossoming effect on the region.
Syria had been a bad player for decades. It was in the USSR’s camp. It pushed terrorism for decades, trying to destabilize Israel and other Western nations. Lebanon was under constant threat. Then Iran became like Syria. In Iraq, Hussein went south because he didn’t have a strong leader on his East. He even attacked Iran, leading to the Iran Iraq war which saw about 500,000 people in both nations killed off.
Had the Shah not been deposed, his son would have taken over from him, and a million people would have continued to live.
Kuwait would not have been invaded. The first and second Gulf Wars would not have had to have been fought.
Radical Islam flourished because there was a base for them. There was support for them. No, Iran wasn’t the total problem to be sure, but it’s fall to radical Islam, and the fact that it couldn’t be counted on to keep it in check in the region, was very detrimental to world peace.
And now some folks on this thread actually think five more Irans in the Middle-East will be a good thing.
It just boggles the mind how clueless people can be.
people who killed Sadat were also gunning for Mubara
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The self same MB as I recall... which is why it was banned.
bttt
I've not read one single poster say it's a "good" thing.
Plenty of us have speculated that revolt such as what is going on now in Egypt is inevitable, that Americans should not have tolerated a Muburak for almost three decades.
We GET that it's not a good thing in that it's likely a more draconion force known as the Muslim brotherhood orchestrating this thing and likely will take over once Muburak's run out of town on a rail.
Many of us "clueless" posters have speculated that on so many occasions this American tendency to prop up and support so-called "benovolent" dictators has backfired time and again, that it was easier to kick the can down the road, until....well until this very same revolution happened, as will always happen in the course of human events, and too often something worse happens.
But we know it's not a "good" thing. This sort of thing is never a GOOD thing.
If Muburak does somehow survive this, that jerk who COULD have been content with ten years of total control and billions in American bribe money and been done with, I will want to see America throw him out right away. If we're lucky that will happen, then maybe we can put some sort of less volatile government in there than the radical extremists.
I don't expect Obamer to do that, of course. He'll kick the can down the road like every other politico, hell, Obamer might appoint the MB himself.
What many "clueless" on this thread have said is that maybe the age of tolerating "benevolent" dictatorships is over. It always ends like Egypt today.
‘Cute’ little slogans appear even more foolish and childish during times like this. Looks like he’s conducting a silly insignificant pep rally.
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