Posted on 01/06/2011 7:04:01 PM PST by Red Steel
Have you noticed how much better informed the major news media have become about the missing birth certificate since Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie entered the picture?
It wasn't that long ago that most of the TV talking heads and alleged news reporters were telling the American people that Barack Obama had released his birth certificate. They seemed incapable of comprehending the difference between the digital short-form certification of live birth offered up by the Obama campaign in 2008 and a standard, long-form birth certificate we're all familiar with.
How many of you recall Bill O'Reilly and Chris Matthews waiving copies of the certification of live birth in front of the camera, telling the American people they had the actual birth certificate?
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How many times have you heard them characterize "birthers" as a fringe group of crackpots and conspiracy nuts?
Now, all of a sudden, as polls continue to show Americans increasingly skeptical about Obama's birth narrative despite the media's stonewalling and obfuscating, along comes the new socialist governor of Hawaii who admits the possibility that the release of some actual evidence might indeed quell what is turning into widespread public distrust
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How many of you recall Bill O'Reilly and Chris Matthews waiving copies of the certification of live birth in front of the camera, telling the American people they had the actual birth certificate?
The truth is Obama should never have been able to assume office without establishing his constitutional eligibility. The system failed the American people and the rule of law. The media "watchdogs" weren't just AWOL. They were attacking
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I tell you, it's not just Obama who is going to pay a price in history for this scandal. All those who aided and abetted him in the media are going down, too.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
Serial numbers and fraud.
If they produce a fraudulent document, somewhere, someone will call it out.
America is great.
Citizens from all over the world can aspire to be president of the USA.
The birth certificates coming from that office at the time were likely produced with one or two specific typewriters. Not only would the forgers need to find the **exact** paper that was used on all the other birth certificates, they would need to duplicate the “finger print” of a typewriter used in other birth certificates.
Add to this the serial numbers and having to forge entries of Obama’s name into antique ledgers of various sorts...well...to me, I doubt that it is possible.
If Obama could forge a birth certificate he would have done so by now.
PLS., would you elaborate on this? any sources?
When questioned about his association with Bill Ayres in the fall of 2008, didn't Obama state that Ayres was "just a college professor that lives in the neighborhood"?
Podcast of Jeff Kuhner Interview
January 06, 2011 8am
Published 21 hours ago from Peter Boyles Show
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http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999
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Every member of the Supreme Court, every member
of congress, every member of the Joint Chiefs, most members of the DOD, CIA, FBI, Secret Service and
state run media, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS, NPR, MSNBC, Fox and print news, knows that Barack Hussein Obama
does NOT meet Article II – Section I constitutional requirements for the office he holds. By his own biography, there is NO way he can pass the test. The hard evidence is so far beyond overwhelming, it is ridiculous.
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But not ONE member of America’s most powerful people will dare confront Obama and his anti-American cabal
on the subject. The Constitution does NOT stand.
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Half of the people you expect to stop this insanity
are quiet co-conspirators in the silent coup.
The other half is paralyzed by fear, motivated
only by political self-preservation.
(Snip)
Americans keep asking what they can do because
they see that none of their leaders are doing
anything to stop the demise of their beloved country. It’s the right question, because those leaders
are NOT going to stop this thing.
JB Williams
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I have a child who was born in a different country.
I have for him that ‘Certificate of Live Birth’
Now, my issue has always been that he should be able to run for president because he WAS born ‘American’.
I’ve always had difficulties with that ‘Natural Born American’ phrase.
Does this mean that an illegal alien, but physically born in this country CAN be president? When at the same time, due to issues with my husband’s papers, our son was delivered overseas, with his mother a legal American citizen, and he, owner of a social security number and US passport from BIRTH, CANNOT?
(not that I’m for Obama, but I really don’t get this issue)
Every congresscritter and supreme who evaded this issue should be made to answer the American citizens.
Jefferson..not BP1..”Deep rooted prejudices entertained by the whites; ten thousand recollections, by the blacks, of the injuries they have sustained; new provocations; the real distinction which nature has made; and many other circumstances will divide us into parties, and produce convulsions, will will probably never end but in the extermination of one or the other race”
Thanks for the summary.
I am afraid events are proving Jefferson to be correct in his prognostications.
"new provocations"Race pimps, the PC media, the leftist education industry and opportunistic politicians worsen race relations every day. Politically correct school agendas guarantee generation after generation of blacks with victim mentality and deep rooted sense of resentment and entitlement. (prime example - Michelle Obama)
"the real distinction which nature has made"PC denial that 45 years of dumbing down, Affirmative Action, EEO, and handouts have produced little real progress, have created more resentments and have nearly destroyed the black family. Blacks continue to lag behind other demographics in education accomplishments in spite of extraordinary efforts to advance them.
"many other circumstances will divide us into parties, and produce convulsion"Even the election of a black as president (primarily because he is black) has not bridged the racial divide. In fact, it has exacerbated racial conflict by showcasing innate differences, black racism toward whites, liberal white guilt, black victimhood and sense of entitlement.
Add to this the serial numbers and having to forge entries of Obama’s name into antique ledgers of various sorts...well...to me, I doubt that it is possible.
There is also the little matter of the microfiche copies. It would have to be produced on the same stock of film as the others in the batch for the month ( and possibly longer ). Add to that the chemical degradation of the the exposed film. The Nordykes copy in 1966 was done from a microfiche ( or microfilm ). So that is over 40 years of degradation. Even if they had original unexposed stock to make a copy, it would have degraded by now and would be useless
Good questions, Sarah, and there is no definitive answer, because the courts have not given one.
The most narrow interpretation — and, frankly, what I think the framers intended, to guard from foreign influence — is that “natural born” means born on American soil of citizen parents.
The broadest view is that of those who think just being a citizen is OK and that the constitution is nothing but an outdated piece of paper. In Barry0’s case, there’s no proof that he’s even a citizen, born or naturalized.
It’s hard to argue that he’s qualified as “natural born” when, if you accept his account, he was born a British subject. That is NOT what the founders intended, for sure.
I don’t know why you’d want your son to grow up to be President anyway. Terrible job, ages men in dog years.
Whoa Nelly.
Where did you get that, and who is that to his left? Do you know the setting or date?
And it looks like a video screen shot from KCET in LA.
They're not dumb, in fact just the opposite. They're smart enough to realize the BC issue is a losing proposition right now. Their top goal is to protect our Constitutional Republic from liberal overreaches, and being labeled a "birther" would undermine everything they're trying to achieve. But I do think Beck, Malkin, et al. would come out of the BC closet if a smoking gun is ever found.
In Obama’s case, his mother was American, and he was therefore, born American.
Of course, there is actually a time limit to finalize this nationality issue.
When my son was born, the law was that the mother or father had to be American, and have lived 14 out of the first 19 years of his life in the United States, and they have to have registered the child within the first two years of his life. (Which I did.)
Now I know that the law is easier, and I have a sister-in-law who managed to somehow piggy-back her children on her own mother (the grandparent law or some such thing). She had NOT lived the first 14 years etc. but only her first 6 years... but the law changed and she was able to get her younger kids citizenship like that, but she had two already over 18, and so could not make them US citizens.
Personally I believe that Obama was born outside of the US, but that his mother had taken care of the details applicable at that time, and that he is American from birth.
It’s just that ‘Natural Born’ definition that has him offering up that ‘live birth’ certificate for those who don’t understand the circumstances under which one gets that.
I’m not going into all the details here, because it’s been discussed in great length on other threads, but Stanley Ann Dunham wasn’t old enough to confer citizenship on the child, according to laws in effect in 1961.
Regardless of that, according to his own life story, Obama was at best a dual citizen.
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