Posted on 12/15/2010 12:54:18 PM PST by OldDeckHand
A military jury has convicted an Army doctor who disobeyed orders to deploy to Afghanistan because he questions President Obama's eligibility for office.
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Disobeying a lawful command. Soldiers don’t get to do this. Now if the Chairman had refused to obey, he could have just stood aside and been replaced. But the Colonel is too far down in the pecking order.
It seems to me that being an officer/doctor and not being on the battlefield would be different from being one of the soldiers. I guess I didnt realize that this applies to everyone regardless of rank or duty.
OK. Now we need to schedule the protest march in DC. Lets make it big.
So Putin or Castro could have a son born here, and he could become president? Are you insane?
In oh so many ways....
What you people fail to realize is that someone can recognize Lakin's actions for the criminal acts that they are without being an Obama supporter. As with the charges Lakin faced, Obama is totally irrelevant to disapproving what Lakin did. His actions were wrong. His acts were not honorable. He is getting what he deserved. I don't take pleasure in that but I'm not wasting any sympathy on him either.
We will indeed.
Ah, the date of the vote - thx. And thanks for the links. (’net neutrality’ - a misnomer if I ever saw one)
The criteria is “natural born” citizen. Both parents must be citizens at the time of birth with a waiver for persons who were alive at the time of the Constitution being written.
If Obama were more than 200 years old he might qualify there, but not if he were a citizen of Indonesia or Kenya, or even England.
The "place" of birth is not relevant.
If people would elect him, yes.
Are you insane?
Well, I wasn't when I checked this morning, but you never know. These things can kind of creep up on you sometimes. I do seem to be drooling uncontrollably, though, for no discernable reason.
Just to clarify, are you saying that under U.S. law, a child born in the United States does not automatically become a citizen? Or are you saying that may be what the law says, but that you disagree with it?
I'm just trying to figure that out. And by the way, just because you may not like what the law says doesn't mean it isn't the law.
I believe that there are serious questions that do need to be answered - however, there is also the rule of law, and the presumption of innocence.
As Pres. Obama has to have had some digging done into his background (do you think the Clinton’s didn’t verify his legitimacy? Remember, Hillary ran against him up to the end), we have to assume that for whatever reason - he is qualified to be President.
Given his approval numbers, and his declining status as a ‘leader’; if someone had infomation showing he was inelgible - it almost certainly would have come out by now.
Personally, I want to know how a poor Black AMERICAN child, from a single parent managed to swing the cost of a Harvard education. Rumor has it that he applied for, and received scholarships for non-traditional students and special consideration as a foreign-born student.
Plus, I’d like to know how the ‘brightest man of our generation’ did in school. Wasn’t a GPA important when GW Bush was President?
I believe the term is pour encourager les autres and it's not new. In 1757 the British shot Vice-Admiral John Byng after he lost Minorca to the French for that very reason, and Voltaire's quote is, in fact, based on that event.
Lakin will get a stiff sentence. The Army has no choice but to come down hard on him to keep others from trying the same thing, perhaps without the same motivation that Lakin claims to have. The same happened to Yolanda Huet-Vaughan back during Desert Storm. She spent time in Leavenworth before having her sentence commuted. I think the same will happen to Lakin. He'll get 3-plus years, serve about half, and have the rest commuted.
We’ll see what happens.
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Yes, we will.
The unintended consequences and impact on other
think people of what Lakin has dared to do, and
the price he will pay for the courage of his
convictions may reverberate in ways we can’t even
imagine today.
God bless him and his family with courage and safety.
Isn’t it taking a surprisingly long time for the
sentence deliberation ?
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think people = thinking people
Tell that to the thousands of Amerasian children denied not only American citizenship but also full citizenship in countries like Vietnam by both of our countries.
The only way according to the first Congress of this country that you can be a Natural born citizen regardless of where you were born is if both your parents were US citizens.
I give you an example recently debated by the Senate....
John McCain who was found to be eligible despite the fact that he was born in Panama, the Senate decided that because he was born to US citizen PARENTS <---<<< note the plural of parent, he was a Natural Born Citizen.
Obama could never meet the same requirement passed by our first congress or by the Senate's resolution confirming McCain eligibility.
As Pres. Obama has to have had some digging done into his background (do you think the Clinton’s didn’t verify his legitimacy? Remember, Hillary ran against him up to the end), we have to assume that for whatever reason - he is qualified to be President.
150 posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:10:36 PM by Hodar
I beg your pardon, I don’t have to assume that, in fact, I know for a FACT BO is NOT qualified to be POTUS.
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/05/aka-obama-ineligible-if-he-was-born-on.html
I guess this means he has standing for a case now.
In other news, water is wet.
Is that so? Wow, I guess I must have been wrong....
Except I can't help but think there's this funny little thing called the 14th Amendment to the Constitution. Now it's all fine and dandy to be an originalist -- I'm one myself -- but of course, even originalists agree that our original Constitution AND all its amendments are valid. Now my version of the 14th Amendment says, in the very first sentence:
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
So at least according to that particular scrap of paper, if you're born in the United States, you are a citizen of the United States (and not a naturalized one, either, because they're mentioned separately). So can you please explain again how "the place of birth is not relevant?"
They were talking about children not born in the country.
I'm with you, wintertime. It doesn't have to be an entire army---just a few brave and honorable Americans.
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