Posted on 11/23/2010 12:35:00 PM PST by SmithL
Three environmental groups sued the Environmental Protection Agency on Tuesday to force it to prevent lead poisoning of wildlife from spent ammunition and lost fishing tackle.
The lawsuit was filed in U.S. District Court by the Center for Biological Diversity, Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility and the hunters group Project Gutpile. It comes after the EPA denied their petition to ban lead ammunition and lead fishing tackle, which the groups say kills 10 million to 20 million birds and other animals a year by lead poisoning.
"The EPA has the ability to protect America's wildlife from ongoing preventable lead poisoning, but continues to shirk its responsibility," said Jeff Miller, conservation advocate with the Center for Biological Diversity.
The lawsuit asks a judge to order the EPA to develop rules to prevent wildlife poisoning from spent lead ammunition and fishing tackle.
(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...
Notice the propaganda try to make the EPA look centrist just as pathetic as trying to make this president centrist.
Propaganda bs alert!!
Notice it’s always something they aren’t doing or don’t want to do that needs to be taxed, regulated, or made illegal because they aren’t doing it, don’t want to do it, and damn well don’t want anyone else doing it either.
But THEIR little proclivities need to be left alone.
If ANY excessive lead poisoning is needed, it’s the Enviro-Wacko’s and the EPA that should suffer it.
http://www.ahrq.gov/clinic/pocketgd1011/gcp10s3.htm#lead
From the site:
Screening for Elevated Blood Lead Levels in Children and Pregnant Women Summary of Recommendations
The U.S. Preventive Services Task Force (USPSTF) concludes that evidence is insufficient to recommend for or against routine screening for elevated blood lead levels in asymptomatic children aged 1 to 5 who are at increased risk. Grade: I Statement.
The USPSTF recommends against routine screening for elevated blood lead levels in asymptomatic children aged 1 to 5 years who are at average risk. Grade: D Recommendation.
The USPSTF recommends against routine screening for elevated blood lead levels in asymptomatic pregnant women. Grade: D Recommendation.
That's it from that site. Not very scary at all.
Actually I bet more are killed by residential houses.
About a half dozen birds commit suicide by flying in to my windows every year.
Multiply that by all of the houses in rural areas of the country and the numbers would be staggering.
I would have thought the impact from the 12 gauge shells would be enough to bring them down.
Blood lead levels in childhood, after peaking at about 2 years of age, decrease during short- and long-term followup without intervention.
Most lead is stored in bone. High bone lead levels can be present with normal blood lead levels, so that blood lead levels often do not reflect the total amount of lead in the body.
This could explain the lack of effect of blood lead level-lowering measures on reducing neurotoxic effects.
Treatment options in use for elevated blood lead levels include residential lead hazard-control efforts (i.e., counseling and education, dust or paint removal, and soil abatement), chelation, and nutritional interventions.
In most settings, education and counseling is offered for children with blood lead levels from 10 to 20 µg/dL. Some experts have also recommended nutritional counseling for children with blood lead levels in this range.
Residential lead hazard control is usually offered to children with blood lead levels ≥20 µg/dL, while chelation therapy is offered to children with blood lead levels ≥45 µg/dL.
So with blood lead levels from 10 to 44 µg/dL the experts only recommend simple hazard control/mitigation efforts or at most nutritional counseling.
Chelation kicks in at blood lead levels ≥45 µg/dL.
[ Richard Milhous Nixon ]
When the party moved away from the ideals of Goldwater and more towards the ideals of Big Government NWO RINOism, we really failed as a country.
If anyone were to make such an idiotic statement to me, I'd ask them to find the "Bill of Needs" in the Constitution and its amendments.
Chelation therapy for lead removal at toxic levels information:
http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/Dec06/LeadChelation.kr.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelation_therapy
Chelation itself can be dangerous: http://www.ehow.com/about_5456890_chelation-therapy-lead-poisoning.html
Its not about the facts. Its about using fear to gain control. They are fascists.
Anyone know chemist FReepers who might be willing to educate us on the toxicity of lead?
My understanding is that lead in the metallic form has a very low toxicity level and is hard for the body to absorb or metabolize. It just passes through.
Adults with lead shrapnel or bullets inside them that are not easily removed generally have them left their for life with no adverse effects.
That’s the upper limit of my knowledge about lead poisoning. Any experts we can use to refute this?
Knowledge is power and conservatives need both to win.
n - ussy?
The EPA doesn’t have the authority to do this. That is why they dropped the case in the first place. They even admitted they don’t have it.
“Do birds really eat lead shot?”
Well if you SHOOT it at ‘em, they will;)
The groups' original petition cited nearly 500 peer-reviewed scientific articles that they said document the toxic effects of lead on wildlife, and the lawsuit argues that large amounts of lead continue to be deposited into the environment. According to the lawsuit, animals often mistake lead shotgun pellets and fishing tackle for food, grit or bone fragments, and avian scavengers are particularly vulnerable to lead in carcasses, gut piles and wounded prey species.
If they have 500 peer-reviewed scientific articles that document the toxic effects of lead on wildlife it should be easily to do a epidemiological review to confirm this finding, but from the same article:
In a statement Tuesday, the EPA said its "decisions were based on a careful analysis of the facts and the law."
Is EPA looking to get the law changed & thrown out by a judge or are the facts incontrovertible that the effects are exaggerated?
More from the same article:
In 1994, under President Bill Clinton and EPA administrator Carol Browner,... the EPA proposed banning lead and zinc in certain smaller-size fishing sinkers.
In a statement at the time, the agency said: "The ingestion of even one small fishing sinker containing lead or zinc can result in the death of a water bird."
That's an awfully vague statement. Science is clear and specific, particularly chemical science (a hard science).
That statement by Browner sounds like bunk. What is a small sinker? How much lead or zinc must it contain to kill? What size bird?
Remember dose makes the poison. I'm tired of these lying control-freaks
We've got to make them pay for every bloody inch and take back our country. I wish I was better at chemistry and understood lead toxicity in better detail.
I get it, but the truth will out. We need to get some FReeper chemists on this.
The EPA is a massive fear machine. It’s based on politics and sham.
No one wants a toxic environment, but science needs to be based on truth not politics.
Do you know any FReepers that are chemists or doctor’s that can shed some insight on the real processes in lead poisoning?
Damn, secondhand smoke only kills 400,000 humans a year.
Thanks.
It, at least, was a small bear.
Had a small bear last year, too. Climbed off of the corner of the deck to get the bird feeder - then the bird feeder support arm broke -— there were (and still are) scratches in the bark of an aspen tree where the bear tried to stop his/her fall. It's about a 15 foot drop from the bird feeder at that point. The bird feeder was crushed (and empty). Last year was not a good growing season for berries in the mountains above us...
Then there was the grizzly about 10 years ago...
For another time.
Well, I hope you have your share of L___ P____ this holiday season.
<:-)
Soil with a pH above 7.0 would have a small solubility coefficient, but soil is never terribly acidic unless there has been some sort of toxic spill.
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