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Sarah Palin's Mike Huckabee problem
WaPo ^ | 6:00 AM ET, 11/23/2010 | By Aaron Blake and Felicia Sonmez

Posted on 11/23/2010 8:14:30 AM PST by onyx

1. Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee said Monday that Sarah Palin might well "run away" with the Republican nomination for president.

It's funny Huckabee should say such a thing, because he's got a lot of say over whether she does just that. And it has to do with whether he even runs in the first place.

As potential 2012 candidates weigh their prospects and determine their plans for the next presidential race, one thing is clear: that Huckabee and Palin inhabit largely the same space -- i.e. they each would perform well without the other, but they might undercut each other if they are in the same race.

There is currently a four-candidate top-tier consisting of Palin, Huckabee, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich. And indeed, a new Quinnipiac University poll on Monday showed the four of them all huddled between 15 and 19 percent of the vote.

But while Huckabee and Gingrich have pretty broad support, the base of support for Huckabee and Palin is readily apparent, and for both of them, it starts with born-again evangelicals. The two of them combine for 46 percent of that vote, compared to just 26 percent for Gingrich and Romney. Palin and Huckabee are also the top two vote-getters among women and people without college degrees.

So why is that important? Because if any of the four frontrunners seems least likely to run for president, it would be Huckabee. And, if he doesn't take the plunge, where is his 26 percent share of evangelicals going to go? Where is his 18 percent share of women going? Who gets his 17 percent share of those without college degrees?

The obvious answer to all three of those questions is Palin.

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KEYWORDS: huckabee; palin; palin2012; romney; romneydirtytrick; romneyfakepoll; stenchofromney; tiresome
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To: onyx
"Huckabee and Palin inhabit largely the same space"

Really? Palin's a liberal?
81 posted on 11/23/2010 9:08:21 AM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast (Obama: running for re-election in '12 or running for Mahdi now? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi])
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To: wolfman23601

Many Evangelicals are not aware of Huck’s big government tendencies. He just seems like a safe choice as he is an Evangelical and a likeable fellow. When I inform other Evangelicals of Huck’s positions they back off quickly and almost always default to Palin.

There’s no way that Romney or Gingrich get much of that vote. DeMint or Pence would, but not those two.


82 posted on 11/23/2010 9:08:49 AM PST by bereanway (I'd rather have 40 Marco Rubios than 60 Arlen Specters)
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To: Papatex

Yes, you’re right, it’s another form of “divide and conquer” and Huckabee is willing to go along with it. I’m certain he;s dying to run.


83 posted on 11/23/2010 9:09:02 AM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: onyx

“Huckabee and Palin inhabit largely the same space”

Hardly.


84 posted on 11/23/2010 9:11:06 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: t-dude
They have told me Sarah isn’t a good Christian because biblically she should stay home and raise her kids, not run for public office.

UGH. That's crazy, but I most assuredly believe you.

85 posted on 11/23/2010 9:11:55 AM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: onyx
A hint?

Could be... :)

86 posted on 11/23/2010 9:13:06 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter ( I can see 2012 from my cubicle...)
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To: LibLieSlayer

LOL. I see that you and I hold him in the same regard...lol.


87 posted on 11/23/2010 9:13:43 AM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: CSM

Here in Iowa, Huckabee has the pro-life Christian vote wrapped up. Without him in the race, I think they would naturally gravitate to Palin.

When I tell them he’s not a conservative, their response is so what? He’s a CHRISTIAN!!


88 posted on 11/23/2010 9:14:18 AM PST by t-dude
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To: onyx
It's funny Huckabee should say such a thing, because he's got a lot of say over whether she does just that.

You wish.

BTW, saying something doesn't make it so. Huckabee is virtually without influence.

89 posted on 11/23/2010 9:15:20 AM PST by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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To: 1010RD
In an ideal world Huck, Rudy, Mitt and Newt would just go away and the 2012 primary would be between the executive experience of some other qualified governors and Palin’s sympathy vote.
90 posted on 11/23/2010 9:15:42 AM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: gov_bean_ counter

I got called “cruel and low” for posting it last night on the Frum thread....LOLOLOL.

Never mind that it was his official Christmas card one year when he was governor.


91 posted on 11/23/2010 9:16:16 AM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: onyx

I’ve said this for months and it is totally dead on. For Palin to get a huge bounce in the primaries, she needs to get rid of Clemency Huck first. I, frankly, don’t see the appeal of Huckabee but all the polls show he’s even with Palin and I believe Palin picks up most (not all) or Huck’s voters if Huckabee either doesn’t run or bows out early.

But beware. There’s a bible verse about women not having authority over men and while I believe that is directed at the leadership of the church, some evangelicals believe it translates to leadership of the country as well. Based on that, they may not support Sarah simply due to her gender.

(As a side note, there’s also a verse about the deacons of the church must be the husband of one wife - i.e. never divorced - and refused to vote for Reagan for that reason. Reagan still won big)


92 posted on 11/23/2010 9:17:01 AM PST by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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To: onyx

You’re right.


93 posted on 11/23/2010 9:17:56 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Psalm 144
incident with his son

What?

94 posted on 11/23/2010 9:18:53 AM PST by lonestar
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To: Pan_Yan

Huck, Rudy, and Newt may well go away, but I can pretty much guarantee you Mitt will not. He thinks he is entitled, and unless he is the subject of a major scandal, he is going to be in for the long run. He is also loaded with money and a competent debater. To beat him, we are going to have to earn it. I have no problem dismissing the others, but Romney is going to be a pain in the ass.


95 posted on 11/23/2010 9:19:37 AM PST by wolfman23601
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To: OrangeHoof; t-dude

Your comments are right in line with t-dude’s. I like that you refer to him as Clemency Huck.

t-dude, those people aren’t concerned that he pardoned criminals and that one went onto murder police officers in Washington state?

Huckabee was the pardon/clemency king of governors.


96 posted on 11/23/2010 9:21:15 AM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: onyx

If the Huckster didn’t have a chance against the weak rino McCain - anyone thinking he has a chance against PATRIOT SARAH is eating too much propaganda. The same for the mitten with his big gov’t mindset.

GO SARAH!


97 posted on 11/23/2010 9:22:52 AM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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To: Al B.

Yikes. I never thought of that.


98 posted on 11/23/2010 9:22:52 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: lonestar

Internet search:

“Huckabee dog boyscouts”

Evaluate the various narratives as you wish.

Perhaps an ugly, isolated incident. One hopes so, anyway.


99 posted on 11/23/2010 9:22:52 AM PST by Psalm 144
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To: ZULU

No NEWT! He’s as different from SARAH as night is to day.


100 posted on 11/23/2010 9:24:02 AM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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