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TSA Agents Absolutely Hate New Pat Downs, Find Them Disgusting And Morale Breaking
TechDirt ^ | Nov. 19, 2010 | Mike Masnick

Posted on 11/20/2010 5:00:30 PM PST by re_tail20

One of the common themes that people keep mentioning in talking about the new TSA pat down procedures is that those involved must "enjoy" the groping they're giving people. But, of course, most TSA agents are normal every day people who don't actually want to grope random people. Chris Tolles points us to a post from BoardingArea.com, who reached out to some TSA agents and found that many TSA agents hate the new rules and find it to be sapping morale to have to grope passengers. Some of it appears to be the verbal abuse they're getting from travelers, but some of it is just the fact that they have to keep touching people they'd rather not touch in that way:

"It is not comfortable to come to work knowing full well that my hands will be feeling another man’s private parts, their butt, their inner thigh. Even worse is having to try and feel inside the flab rolls of obese passengers and we seem to get a lot of obese passengers!"

Of course, it does seem like a lot of the "morale" part comes from everyone accusing them of molesting them. I recognize, they're not the ones making policy, but many of the people being groped do feel violated and it's not surprising that many of them speak out.

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KEYWORDS: hillaryclinton; johnpistole; tsa; tsapervs
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To: kingu
They are already rolling them out at federal courthouses.

WHAT??? What county? City?

121 posted on 11/20/2010 7:05:07 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Here's a thought!! Donate to the website you are on RIGHT NOW!! .... *waves hi to DS*)
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To: George from New England
They are mostly an’ unemployable’ lot of hoodlums.

With abuse of power in the job description, and the all-you-can-eat buffet of valuables, the TSA attracts a certain demographic of applicants. They only hate the new pat-downs because they meet with resistance.

122 posted on 11/20/2010 7:09:20 PM PST by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: re_tail20
With regard to glove changes as has been asked on various TSA related postings and according to TSA's own web site at: http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/specialneeds/editorial_1567.shtm

"You have the right to ask a Security Officer to change her/his gloves during the physical inspection of your accessible property, before performing a physical search (pat-down,) or any time a Security Officer handles your footwear."

123 posted on 11/20/2010 7:10:37 PM PST by dickmc
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To: Brad's Gramma

Orlando federal courthouse is a prime example, where thirty thousand images were apparently stored on a background scatter scanner. I have a hard time submitting to just a metal detector at a courthouse, I’d never submit to a virtual strip search at a federal building.

But after all, once all the airports have these scanners, the companies who make them must sell them to new locations, and courthouses seem to be the first to adopt, at every turn, ‘airport style’ security.


124 posted on 11/20/2010 7:12:32 PM PST by kingu (Favorite Sticker: Lost hope, and Obama took my change.)
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To: MWS
Good. Now, I understand that the average TSA agent didn't sign up to administer the heavy-handed pat-down policy

But anyone signing up for that work from now forward will be seeking that work. Should be interesting a few years down the road.

125 posted on 11/20/2010 7:20:52 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: School of Rational Thought

Yep- when the fur flies, and sooner or later it does, the one that cooks the books is the one that gets caught in the noose.Might as well be the boss- not you/me.


126 posted on 11/20/2010 7:23:13 PM PST by handmade
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To: re_tail20

Privatize the TSA and get rid of them all.


127 posted on 11/20/2010 7:25:18 PM PST by November 2010
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To: re_tail20
I think it is travesty that our supposed "most GLBT friendly" Administration ever has a policy that assumes everyone entering an airport is straight and would prefer a pat-down by someone of the same sex. This cruel assumption treats GLBT people as second-class citizens. If all females were automatically given pat-downs by males TSA agents, the public would be outraged. Having gays or lesbians being given pat-downs by someone of the same sex is identical to this. It is also unacceptable that they be forced to "out" themselves in order to request special treatment.

The current administration MUST stop this horrible treatment of GLBT citizens by instituting new policies that do not in any way put different burdens on GLBT citizens that those on straight citizens. The first would be requiring that any person being given a TSA pat-down first be asked what gender of agent they would prefer to have pat them down. In this way, the policy would not have a disperate impact on any GLBT citizen. Also, every TSA checkpoint must have gay, lesbian, bi-sexual and trangendered agents available at all times. If a GLBT citizen requests another similar GLBT citizen to pat them down, they should always have that option (This is no different than all of the business and government offices that must have translators available for the myriad of languages spoken by their customers and potential customers.)

I call on the Obama Administration to implement these changes immediately (or drop the enhanced pat-downs.)

128 posted on 11/20/2010 7:25:56 PM PST by Onelifetogive (I tweet, too...)
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To: kingu

What will eventually happen is that the US Supreme court will rule that government can treat people however government wants.


129 posted on 11/20/2010 7:26:12 PM PST by Aglooka (Posting from New Hampshachusetts (Formerly New Hampshire))
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To: re_tail20
Top Three Airline Screening Pranks for 2011

1. Conceal a remote-controlled fart machine on your person and "let 'er rip!" as the agent begins.
2. Insert joke buzzer up rectum before screening.
3. Rig baggie filled with Campbell's "Big 'n Hearty" beef stew such as to burst when groped, dribbling down your leg and out onto your shoes.

That's just for starters!

130 posted on 11/20/2010 7:27:02 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: RFEngineer

Good point!


131 posted on 11/20/2010 7:29:53 PM PST by mylife (Opinions $1 Half baked 50c)
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To: Merlinator
yup, creepy crawly things tooo...
132 posted on 11/20/2010 7:31:13 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: All
It could be worse you know.

The Ministry Of Information Retrieval

133 posted on 11/20/2010 7:34:58 PM PST by mylife (Opinions $1 Half baked 50c)
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To: RFEngineer
Lawn mowing opened up during the summer, with the mass exodus of illegals during the downturn.

/johnny

134 posted on 11/20/2010 7:39:45 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Cyber Ninja

Sell-out! Great term!


135 posted on 11/20/2010 7:40:12 PM PST by Clock King (Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
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To: re_tail20

Hitler and Himmler didn’t have any problems finding people to carry out their orders, and Napalitano and Pistole won’t have any problems either.


136 posted on 11/20/2010 7:41:18 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: MWS
To me, it's pretty obvious what this is all about, and it isn't national security.

This is about destroying the American airline industry and hobbling free commerce. Plain and simple.

137 posted on 11/20/2010 7:42:13 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: Truth29
This sounds like the TSA workforce will self select for the worse.

Exactly what happened in Nazi Germany.

138 posted on 11/20/2010 7:43:13 PM PST by Clock King (Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
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To: leapfrog0202

Agreed.

I give this BS not more than 6 mos


139 posted on 11/20/2010 7:43:54 PM PST by mylife (Opinions $1 Half baked 50c)
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To: Aglooka
The real reason for the “groping” is to get people to accept the scanners. Then once the population accepts the see-through-the-clothes scanners at the airport they will start rolling them out and train stations, bus terminals, stadiums and everywhere else. We are well on track to becoming a total surveillance society.

With anger and sadness I think that you are right. I hope and trust we will rise and overcome it.

140 posted on 11/20/2010 7:44:04 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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