It's just as you suspected...
Posted on 11/15/2010 3:06:08 PM PST by TCH
Idiocy has its claws in the TEA Party movement!
I am a founding member of the TEA Party Patriots of SW Nebraska. I sure as hell do not approve of the recently released letter demanding that Republicans jettison "social issues!" Our group was never informed and had no input!
Ditch "social issues," that we may better focus on the economic issues? Is that so? I believe it is time for a TEA Party reality check.
You cannot promote prosperity at the expense of morality. One requires the other. God is not mocked. The Constitution may be document of incredible insight, but it is not supreme over God’s Law. Freedom requires responsible behavior... Abortion and sodomy do not qualify, and ignoring the consequences of both will result in our downfall.
Everything that affects society is a "social issue," but we are allowing ourselves to be deceived by the utopian nonsense that is Libertarianism. We do so at our peril. These individuals use the term "Social issues." WRONG! We are arguing moral and ethical issues. So what these individuals are actually stating is they want a government bereft of ethics and morality. GIVE US BREAD AND CIRCUSES!
From the beginning I stated my group is not going to be hijacked by Libertarians, and for good reason: Only fools jettison morality and ethics from government. Libertarians claim to “restore” the Constitution, while they march lock-step with the tenets of the Communist Manifesto. Libertarianism is nothing less than veiled Utopianism—a deadly poison to any ordered society, because its precepts mock God’s Law. While the Libertarian advocates the Constitution, he simultaneously disconnects its FIRST CAUSE, as stated in the Declaration of Independence: All men are endowed by THEIR CREATOR with an inalienable RIGHT TO LIFE and LIBERTY. There we have the crux of the issue. Those who established our government did so with the understanding that we are “created beings,” owing our life and liberty to a Creator, and therefore our first allegiance resulting from those created gifts must belong to the higher power. That fact explicitly requires a recognition of and obedience to transcendent moral laws established by that same Creator. However, according to the submitted “letter” endorsed by our State TEA Party leader, we should now acquiesce not to the Creator, but to men who are double-minded and thus unstable in all their ways! Thinking themselves wise they became as fools!
Notice the top signatory to this letter of “demands:” GOProud ... PROUD homosexuals of the GOP! Nice company we keep for the sake of "filthy lucre." Sacrificing moral principles under the pretense of "fiscal conservatism" will not save this country... I doubt any man of sound reason would believe in such nonsense. Abortion and homosexuality cost money: increased healthcare costs, increased insurance premiums, lost tax base, etc.
If a man fails to understand the most basic right, life, then why should we trust him with power? Such a man will give his assent to anything. What this “letter” actually states is that we want our liberty, but we do not want to pay for the consequences of its abuse! That is not liberty, it is licentiousness.
Perhaps the signatories to this "compact" do not grasp the concept that “social” issues COST THE TAXPAYER MONEY! Who pays for abortion? How many abortions are covered by insurance or government welfare? How many more may we expect via Obamacare? Consider the loss of national productivity that must be attributed to the increase in abortions--We are barely maintaining replacement population (mostly through illegal immigration); so what happens when all the baby boomers retire, and America’s workforce (ages 17-60) is reduced to a mere 14 percent of the population? Thank you to all those who demand we not consider abortion a front and center issue! They are contributing to the destruction of our culture and the downfall of our country! Oh, but wait.... they will decrease the size of government in the process! Blind fools!
Now let us turn the focus on the costs of homosexual perversion. Yes, there is a defined “normalcy” in sexuality... homosexual acts do not fall within that scope. All sexual perversion causes disease, but the homosexual variety produces a plethora of fatal infections, and not just those associated with AIDS. A great many more “nasty things” inhabit the bodies of homosexuals and lesbians as a direct result of their perverted sexual practices. If we ignore “social issues, ” then how will the unobstructed rise of these diseases impact medical care and insurance costs for those who live within the bounds of normal sexual behavior--particularly with the advent of socialized medicine--and the insistence that “pre-existing conditions” not be excluded from coverage or considered a dis-qualifier?
Libertarianism is like the Siren who attempts to convince the sailor there are no jagged rocks beneath those calm waters... A nation cannot separate social from fiscal issues... one entails the other. You cannot separate morality from government... one requires the other. Amoral or immoral men cannot govern themselves:
In 'A Letter to a Member of the National Assembly,' 1791, Edmund Burke wrote: “What is liberty without wisdom and without virtue? It is the greatest of all possible evils; for it is folly, vice, and madness, without restraint. Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition to put moral chains upon their own appetites; in proportion as they are disposed to listen to the counsels of the wise and good in preference to the flattery of knaves.”
Edmund Burke continued: “Society cannot exist, unless a controlling power upon will and appetite be placed somewhere; and the less of it there is within, the more there must be without. It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things, that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters.”
Libertarians argue a "non-interference" perspective; but their rationale is a straw man argument. The issue is not about those who have an inclination to same-sex attraction. However unfortunate for them, it is a personal struggle, through which they must affect a strong combat for reasons of physiological, psychological and sociological necessity.
The issue is the propagation of an intrinsically destructive doctrine that opposes life and the common good. Even if we put aside the moral imperative—which act would constitute the greatest of errors, since the moral code is a product of sound reason and marks the boundaries of that singularly most quoted imperative “love thy neighbor”—it will still be proven that anything directed against its own natural purpose is contrary to right reason.
The two sexes are specifically designed so their physiological, biological and psychological aspects are mutually beneficial. Male and female complement one another, in all regards, to the natural end that their anatomy was specifically designed to affect: procreation of the species. This natural end logically supposes an intended purpose consistent with intelligent design.
Homosexual behavior is absolute in its destruction of that purpose. Understanding that “a house divided against itself cannot stand,” it is reasonable to state that Nature does not work against itself. By logical extension, and since all things must have a first cause, then neither would an intelligent supreme being create an natural order having as a component of its initial design a species directed to its own demise.
Reason and logic dictate that whenever any object is directed against its own natural purpose, then that object is intrinsically disordered. Since the design of male and female reproductive anatomy gives irrefutable evidence to its intended purpose, it is an attack on reason to presume that biology would be so rebellious of its own preservation as to willingly submit to an ends contrary to that which affords its greatest chance of success.
Homosexual behavior acts in direct opposition to the propagation of life, both directly in its physical acts, and psychologically by subverting the natural order of creation. It is anti-life, just as much as is abortion. Being unable to sustain itself through procreation, it may increase its numbers only by seduction--a point that the doctrine of libertarian thought purposely ignores, and which has a direct impact on society at every measurable level.
The argument that same-sex attraction is a product of genetic accident is easily refuted; for if such a gene were existent for any period of time, it would soon by its own actions render itself extinct, as do most unnatural mutations. Thus it is clear that the homosexual inclination is a product of external environmental stimulus and internal psychological impediments (intrinsically disordered desire). This distinction is important for reason that the state-enforced tolerance of intrinsically disordered behaviors (perversions) aligns perfectly with the anti-life philosophy that has imposed a literal death grip upon our culture. The rationale supporting this statement is the summation of those disorders, while still generally opposed, continue to advance, continue to realize great reinforcement through subversive indoctrination of the young, and thus continue to undermine true liberty with an emboldened narcissistic flattery that pretends itself tolerance.
Thus the libertarian argument of “non-interference” where willing parties engage in private acts not harmful to a non-interested party is a patently absurd and false doctrine. Such philosophy entails the shackling of human society in a suicide pact that is contrary to the development of a resilient culture, is destructive of a sustainable and prosperous economy, and exists in direct opposition to right reason and the moral imperatives derived through the Natural Law.
Ask the signers of this piece of libertarian trash if they are willing to sell their soul for 30 pieces of silver. If they are inclined to betray the common good, for the sake of "limited government and reduced taxes," then let them do so of their own accord; they do not speak for me, and I doubt they speak for most of the THINKING individuals within the TEA Party movement, whom understand the negative consequences connected with duplicity of mind on ethical and moral issues. I do not make deals with the Devil, and neither should the TEA Party do so in my name.
I respect you very much. But I think any good officer in a battle will choose the order and the field of battle. And arrive there at any means at his disposal. And rip out his enemies heart and leave it bleeding on the ground. But a good field general picks his battles in order to win the war. Are you familiar with The Charge of the Light Brigade?
I like your tagline... and brother, do we need her intercession now more than ever!
Are you familiar with Sun-Tzu... ‘The Art of War’ ... All war is deception.
The first amendment protects the people against a Federal establishment of religion and activity against religion.
So, it is perfectly fine for an organization to demand the govenerment stay out of asserting and funding social beleif structures of any one group upon the whole nation. That includes humanists. The government should stay out of funding any of it. The people are free to advocate their ideas in the states and communities.
Exactly. The social agenda will completely destroy the tea party.
Stick with what is most urgent and pressing - fiscal issues, liberty, and stoppoing the growth of the govt.
To start now with the social stuff would completely reverse everything accomplished so far.
A judge that understands that Roe must be overturned is a judge that is not going to give your home to a drug company or tell a cop that he can't ask a lawbreaker for ID or tell an illegal he has a right to in-state tuition.
More familiar than most. But Scipio Africanus is my mentor. Followed by a few others and sun-tzu.
No, I prefer Ronald Reagan’s three pronged approach: Strong defence, strong economy and strong social values. And his straight forward winning strategy: We win, they lose.
Don’t back down!
It seems the liberfarians are attempting to hijack the TEA Party in a concerted effort. Don’t buy the pervert pandering. It is not what the Tea Party is about.
I absolutely agree! I would like to add one more thing.
We can not separate morality and religion from education either! EVERY ( Yes! **ALL**) collectivist government school in this nation is godless in its religious worldview. EVERY ( Yes, **ALL**) collectivist government school in this nation teaches children to think godlessly and **establishes** the religious philosophy of godless secular humanism.
Geeze! And we wonder why our nation is in the pits.
Every collectivist government school in this nation should be padlocked tomorrow. **ALL** of them are a First Amendment and freedom of conscience abomination.
Yes, I am shouting, jumping up and down and having a fit! Why is it that so few conservatives understand this?
I absolutely agree! I would like to add one more thing.
We can not separate morality and religion from education either! EVERY ( Yes! **ALL**) collectivist government school in this nation is godless in its religious worldview. EVERY ( Yes, **ALL**) collectivist government school in this nation teaches children to think godlessly and **establishes** the religious philosophy of godless secular humanism.
Geeze! And we wonder why our nation is in the pits.
Every collectivist government school in this nation should be padlocked tomorrow. **ALL** of them are a First Amendment and freedom of conscience abomination.
Yes, I am shouting, jumping up and down and having a fit! Why is it that so few conservatives understand this?
Until you win the hearts of the majority of Americans, you will not win on social (or morality) issues. There is work to do at the grassroots level. In churches and in school board and PTA meetings, and in your neighborhood.
If you press for laws governing moral issues at this juncture, you will lose. I am convinced based on voting results that more than half of the country has been persuaded that homosexuals should have special protection and rights, and that no laws against abortion should be passed (despite the fact that most people think abortion is wrong). If you press on these issues from the top down, you will lose. If you lose, the economy also loses.
There is a powerful coalition at this time: The Tea Party movement. Some of the Tea Partiers are sympathetic to your views on morality, and some are not. We can win the battle on economic issues from the top down, because this coalition gives us a majority on this issue. Let’s win the battle that we can win.
And let’s work at the grassroots level to change hearts and minds on the morality issues. Unfortunately, the country has gone too far to the leftist/libertarian side on morals to win a top-down battle on morality.
The folks who say that social issues are not a federal issue forget that the USSC has made rulings on them at the federal level. These issues are federal at least until the relevant Supreme Court decisions have been reversed.
I’m not suggesting backing down. We share the same goals. This election was about drawing the lines of battle. Ousting RINOs and calling out “moderates”. I donated money to O Donnell knowing she would lose so the Bearded Marxist will OWN his failed philosophy. Just like the 1840s, the lines are being drawn. The battle has not started in earnest yet. I appreciate your spirit among many things, but I’d rather not have a platoon charge a brigade. I believe this entire mess is a result of decaying Judeo Christian beliefs. Sometimes you have to peel away the flanks. And the more troops I have to help me win this particular battle the better. We will write the rules after we win the battle. My 2 cents. I wouldn’t spend the time making my point if you were not someone I greatly admire.
It's just as you suspected...
The tea party, or any decent organization, should distance itself from perverts including homos, pedos, beastophiles and the rest. Why include those that would pander to the sexual deviants, predators and offenders?
We inflicted heavy casualties on the enemy in this battle and won big time in the battle for the House and state governments. Do not change what works! We’re going to wipe them out on ALL fronts in 2012!! We the people are pissed and Obama and his wannabe totalitarians are history!!
Rebellion is brewing!!
Lead, follow or get the hell out of the way!!
Most conservatives understand the social issues are paramount—even some who might be personally liberal or libertarian on a few matters. Even an atheist is better off living in a Christian nation than any other.
The homosexual agenda is a close ally of the left. The left uses it to degrade and destroy the family and moral fabric. And beyond disgusting, the homosexual threat to public health (ie all of us) is staggering in terms of what it has cost the taxpayers footing the bill to address diseases which were heretofore seen at a neglible level. I have posted the list of diseases vectored (ie spread) by male homosexuals, the #1 vector for the spread of human infectious diseases and the breeding of antibiotic-resistant bacteria.
Damned right!!
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