Hard Data Supporting Fraudulent Activity in Nevada Election - ACTION NEEDED

<self> | 11/3/2010 | lexinom and Black_Shark

[popdonnelly]

I am sick and tired of people complaining about fraud, and not doing anything. If you want a clean election next time, you have to do something now, and keep the issue fresh.

[wtc911]

Polls are not hard data, they are samples that are subject to easy manipulation.

[DaxtonBrown]

My book, HARRY: Money Mob & Influence could have made a big difference, but was shut out by the local media. Nevada is just plain corrupt.

[King Greymung]

Polling data? I wouldn’t trust polls as far as I can throw a pollster.

[King Greymung]

Yeah, how does that happen? People voting "none of the above"?

Yep. When that's an option, many voters find themselves looking at the ballot, think, "eh, to heck with both of those clowns", and vote NOTA.

[shield]

Call this number and ask GOP attorneys...they are on stand by to answer questions and give advise on voter fraud. 1-888-404-2863 or this one 1-888-775-8117

[r9etb]

The problem with you analysis is that "Margin of Error" is not actually a measure of accuracy.

"Margin of Error" in a poll, corresponds to the uncertainty in a statistical result, assuming that the sample population is representative of the whole population. It's mainly a function of the sample size.

(The actual explanation of MOE is more detailed than that, but that's the general idea.)

If the sample population is not representative, then MOE is not useful as a measure of accuracy.

Here's the question, then: what methods were used to sample the voters in Nevada's polls? What sort of process bias could explain the consistency of the wrong results?

What you're really seeing, is probably a failure of methods used for telephone-based samples (all polling organizations use essentially the same techniques).

Is there a law in NV that limits calls to land-lines or cell phones? Is there a class of voters who are unlikely to answer their phones (e.g., casino workers?).

It's probably not evidence of fraud, though.

[varmintman]

The rats appear to have stolen an election which was not close enough to steal. The only question is what are we going to do about it.

[Democrats hate too much]

Obama might have had a million people phone banking into Nevada... Because I joined his website last year I was receiving text messages telling me over and over:

1) Vote for Obama and why
2) text "PLACE" to find where to vote
3) text "CALL" to ask voters to get to the polls

If you reply to the text message with "CALL" you instantly got a phone call from an area code 202 number (example: 202-656-9984) with a voice recording. The voice recording told you really quick how to phone bank. Then kept calling places in Nevada. Obama might have had a million people across the country phone banking in Nevada.. By the way, for the last month I kept getting text messages and phone calls about volunteering for my local democrat to put up signs and phone bank. Republicans don't have a chance next election if they don't implement something similar.

[mcshot]

Right you are! The time to do more then bitch is upon us. Our electoral process must be made error and fraud free. It’s going to be hard to do nationally with AG Holder but I hope it can be addressed locally. Our local system of ID verification, even neighbor to neighbor, appears to be fraud free in terms of voter eligibility but don’t know how the paper ballots/machine counting is protected.

[wolfman]

By my count there were 40k+ more total votes for the Senate race than there were for the governor’s race or any of the other state offices. What would account for this?

[Tatze]

I’m looking at the desparity between the no of votes for governor and the number cast for senate race.

Gov - 716,528
AG - 704,331
SoS - 703,512
Lt Gov - 703,494
Treas - 700,915
Cont - 697,618

Senate - 719,830

Margin - 40,659

http://elections.nytimes.com/2010/results/nevada

[blondee123]

Why can’t the lawyers for the Republican party file suit to have these machines impounded???

[Kackikat]

I agree that Reid stole this election illegally. Just asking a Corporation (Casino) to insist it’s employees appear at polls and vote for Reid is illegal. There needs to be a Republican lawsuit file to investigate Reid, SEIU and the Voting Machines.....it should not be allowed to stand!

[Lexinom]

One poll or two polls may be off, manipulated, yes. But SEVEN POLLS over a long period and all in general agreement? I'm sorry, that stretches the bounds of incredulity.

Another member has brought out the excellent point that there is a 17,000 vote disparity between the total # of votes for Papa Reid and Junior Reid. Sorry, 17,000?

I'm sorry, this stinks to high heaven and combine it with the sudden $1M cash infusion the day before - too late to buy advertising.

[Kackikat]

If Harry REID’S son is involved in the Voting Machines, as well as SEIU, then those voting machines need to be collected, examined as a criminal act. It was a conflict of interest for the son to be involved, period.

[Kackikat]

FRAUD is a crime, and if there is one conservative sheriff or Police Chief in that district, and one vote can be proven fraudalent, then can’t those voting machines be taken as evidence for examination by forensics? Where does Nevada Election Laws stand on this, and on the criminal justice aspect of voter fraud. What would it take to get a criminal case going, if there is fraud?

[Reb Raider]

I'm sure most of you have heard of the group in TX that started TrueTheVote after witnessing voter fraud in the 2008 election. I wanted to volunteer this year since I figured I could do some of the computer work from home. They were only focusing on a few local TX counties this time around, but have plans on helping others nationwide in the future I read somewhere. I would think that means they will share how they systematically went through and found significant fraud including multiple registrations of same person, non citizen registrations, and vacant lots and halfway houses being used as home address of multiple people.

Of course now they are being sued for finding the fraud—by George Soros funded groups. Gee whiz, who'd ah thunk old George would be interested in this? That man is worse than my closet man nightmares as a child and believe me closet man was scary as all get out. I'm in my fifties and still won't go to sleep with a closet door open! :)

The unfounded lawsuits aren't going to work, but will tie up their time, cost money and attempt to discredit the group. They can pass on to others how to start the search(I think they started with homes that had a high number of registered voters), and what they have learned by trial and error. If FR had a group working on voter rolls in the most questionable districts you know we could make a dent in the fraud. We can't wait for government to do it because it never gets done.

Here's their website http://www.truethevote.org/

fill out the form and see what happens.

[Lexinom]

I don’t know the answers to that but those are important questions, and why I posted this thread. Any NV Freepers know, or know where to find out?

[Kackikat]

NEVADA ELECTION LAWS

http://www.leg.state.nv.us/nrs/NRS-293.html

Just click on blue numbers at left for more information by category.
If they can find some voter FRAUD, it could be a criminal case of Voter Fraud depending on Nevada law, and then the voting machines could be seized as evidence and examined. Were the machines rigged before the vote? Are there any conservatives in law enforcement in that district?