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Karl Rove's Flameout
Daily Beast via Yahoo News ^ | 10/22/10 | Matt Latimer

Posted on 10/22/2010 9:09:58 AM PDT by Enchante

In primaries this year, Republican voters in Alaska, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Kentucky, Nevada, and Utah, have rejected—en masse—the candidates preferred by the National Republican Senatorial Committee, which Rove is said to informally advise. The Conservative Party candidate Tom Tancredo—a known enemy of Rove—is trouncing the GOP-backed candidate in the race for governor of Colorado.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alaska; US: Colorado; US: Delaware; US: Florida; US: Kentucky; US: Nevada; US: Utah
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To: A.Hun

There is a huge difference between a seasoned operator with widespread name recognition who has served at the highest levels of the Republican Party coming out on television to attack a Republican candidate after she has won the nomination, and a private citizen in a free forum coming out against a politician he or she doesn’t approve of.

It may or may not be smart. But it’s not the same thing at all.

Rove knows better. But he decided to do his best to destroy the person nominated by his own party anyway.

Matter of fact, he did the same damned thing when he was working for Bush and worked to undermine Bill Simon in California, because Simon had been nominated by a 2-1 vote against his leftist choice. And then, of course, he gave us Arnie instead.


41 posted on 10/22/2010 11:09:19 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: Enchante

Great post. I would add to your list only that Bush, while he fought the war on terror with some gusto, fought it with PC, failed to demonize the true enemy, failed to go after the strategic enemies (Saudi Arabia and Iran) and allowed the Democrat party back in the game on national security. I would summarize by saying he squandered an opportunity to remake the middle east because he thought there is such a thing as moderate islam. As a result, while he protected us for a few years, he made our future years very dangerous.


42 posted on 10/22/2010 11:38:50 AM PDT by Defiant (I'm a Fabian Co nstitutionalist. Roll back FDR and progressivism!)
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To: steelyourfaith
finally taking the war to the bad terrorist guys

Islam is a religion of peace. Yep he took it to the bad guys alright. </sarcasm>

43 posted on 10/22/2010 11:43:59 AM PDT by itsahoot (We the people allowed Republican leadership to get us here, only God's Grace can get us out.)
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To: vox_freedom
I don't attribute all of the GOP problems to Rove

You invert cause and effect. Rove is just a symptom of the RINOs who sell out party and country seeking to replace Dem pork with GOP pork. We need to render all their fat hides.

44 posted on 10/22/2010 12:00:17 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Defiant; November 2010

thanks, but the words below the line were a re-post of FReeper “November 2010” who deserves the kudos for such a succinct list

I agree with your post, too


45 posted on 10/22/2010 12:05:56 PM PDT by Enchante (De-fund the agitprop twits of NPR, PBS, and CPB now!!)
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To: A.Hun
The double standard here is sick.

A few years ago the moderates on this board - maybe even you - were calling dissatisfied conservative Freepers 'unappeasables' and the nat'l GOP was telling us 'too bad your guy lost, now get on board'.

Well, things are changing and ya'll need to follow your own advice.

46 posted on 10/22/2010 12:34:37 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: UCFRoadWarrior; All

” Rove is an Open Borders Liberal Globalist....he is no conservative...and does not help the conservative cause. “

And he always HAS been a globalist RINO open-borders POS.
Now we need to broom Mitch McConnell, or nothing will be done about Obamacare.


47 posted on 10/22/2010 12:41:16 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: AndyJackson

I’ll agree with that...


48 posted on 10/22/2010 1:02:39 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: skeeter
Well, things are changing and ya'll need to follow your own advice.

You'll find that I have either fully supported nominated candidates, or kept my criticisms to myself.

Personally, I think Rove screwed up with his comments about O'Donnell. It looked to me like he was angry more than anything else. He should have kept his mouth shut.

However, watching Freepers trash Rove for doing exactly the same thing they do on a daily basis strikes me as hypocritical. Should you support someone you disagree with because they won the nomination of your party or not?

I believe its the former, because that's how you win elections and stop the Democrats (our real enemy)....if you want to fight for a different candidate in the next primary, fine.

49 posted on 10/22/2010 1:16:57 PM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun
Should you support someone you disagree with because they won the nomination of your party or not?

In all fairness, there is a HUGE difference between individuals offering opinions on a conservative political internet forum and a renown Republican rainmaker going on nat'l TV immediately following a primary and trashing his parties candidate.

Calling that a double standard is a bit over the top.

50 posted on 10/22/2010 1:25:09 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter
I'll concede that KR is certainly more high profile than your average freeper, but I believe the damage done at the grassroots level is just as bad.

It's still a double standard though....I can do it, but KR can't.

I tend to look at things plainly.

51 posted on 10/22/2010 1:35:54 PM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun
Then we're all guilty of using double standards.

If thats whats necessary to push forward a truly conservative agenda, so be it.

52 posted on 10/22/2010 1:47:18 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter
Then we're all guilty of using double standards.

Not all of us.

If thats whats necessary to push forward a truly conservative agenda, so be it.

I'm sorry, but I will never agree that helping a Democrat beat a Republican is in anyway conservative. Of all the RINOs that lost in the last two elections, in part because of "true conservatives" constant criticism hurting their base, every one was replaced by a more liberal Democrat.

Those "conservatives" helped give us a trillion dollar porkulus and Obamacare, neither of which would ever have come to the floor with the Repubs in charge.

53 posted on 10/22/2010 2:42:31 PM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun
Not all of us.

Like hell you're not.

Great guns, listen to yourself.

54 posted on 10/22/2010 2:46:47 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Cicero

The fact that Christine O Donnell is trailing badly in the polls is simply due to the fact that she is a lousy candidate with no campaign skills and has no clue on what it takes to win election.

It is evident clearly the number of missteps She has done since winning the primary and she is trailing even after raising more money than coons!

Stop whinging and whining about Rove and accept some responsibility for a change, this is about a lousy candidate who is incompetent.


55 posted on 10/22/2010 6:45:17 PM PDT by GregH
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To: surfer

“All Rove has done is help diminish Christine’s chances to get elected...it “

BS! It is Christine o Donnell missteps and absolutely lousy campaigning skills and number of missteps since winning the primary that is behind her poor poll numbers.

Accept some personal responsibility rather than blaming straw men like liberals do.


56 posted on 10/22/2010 6:47:47 PM PDT by GregH
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To: Tribune7

“All Rove has done is help diminish Christine’s chances to get elected...it “

and making it easy for a marxist to get elected in his place.


57 posted on 10/22/2010 6:48:44 PM PDT by GregH
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To: GregH
and making it easy for a marxist to get elected in his place.

As opposed to the Marxist tagalong. Better to have your enemies in front of you than behind you.

If guys like Castle don't need my help they shouldn't whine about it when they don't get it.

Maybe that's a lesson the GOP establishment should take to heart.

58 posted on 10/22/2010 7:00:26 PM PDT by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: GregH
You probably still think Bush was a good president and a good conservative. You are delusional.

Do you actually think the GOP will be able to resist? You seriously don't think they are going to blow it again!

I never said O'Donnell hasn't screwed up...she not a practiced scumbag lying SOB...so of course she is going to make mistakes.

But Rove...well he has attacked her as much as the traitor left in this country...thus he has damaged her chances all because they couldn't get their RINO elected.

Rove is a key element in the disease that is infecting our country...the political establishment is what is destroying this country and that destruction is coming from both parties.

Why don't you wake up and stop drinking the kool-aid that has clearly taken us to where we are today?

59 posted on 10/22/2010 7:13:26 PM PDT by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: surfer

Where is Bush coming in this picture? GWB is a good President in some ways and bad in others, overall GWB presidency has positives and America is better for it.

This is about Rove and Christine O Donnell.

Rove’s Crossroads is spending millions on getting conservatives elected.

Christine O Donnell is wasting tea party money and she has run a lousy, horrible and incompetent campaign.

That is the fact, a lousy candidate and a lousy political campaign despite millions in the reason for her bad polls not Rove or any other of the straw man you like to blame.

She has made it easy for Coons since the primary win.

Accept responsibility for it and stop blaming Rove and other strawmen for some who is not skilled in campaigning.


60 posted on 10/22/2010 7:28:50 PM PDT by GregH
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