Posted on 10/13/2010 3:04:13 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
On consideration of the Petition for Extraordinary Relief in the Nature of a Writ of Mandamus and Application for a Stay of Proceedings, the petition is DENIED.
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Ahem - CanaGuy - have you read butterdezillion’s blog? No? I would suggest you do so to save yourself more embarrassment. Butterdezillion not only knows probably more than anyone (besides the criminals at the DoH in HI) but she also knows more than she has even made public.
You, OTOH, are merely revealing your ignorance about the topic. I’m being gentle and giving you the benefit of the doubt. Read her blog, and then you will see that she knows what she is talking about.
Placemark.
Nope. I’m saying the original intent of the Founders in writing that the President must be a “natural born citizen” is met by Obama if he was born in Hawaii. There is no doubt that under English common law, Obama would qualify as a ‘natural born subject’, and that is the concept the Founders were thinking of when they wrote “natural born citizen”.
Original intent. Not mine, but theirs.
Perhaps you should read this post, by rxsid before making that claim.
Your legal thoughts are always willy-nilly just as your interpretation of who constitutes a natural born citizen under the US Constitution. Here it is more concisely.
All legal maneuvering and appeals have to be exhausted by LTC Lakin;
And to include time for a possible pardon by the next president, whether he/she is a Democrat or a Republican. The bet will only go on for about half of the presidential term that starts January 20th, 2013 until December 31st, 2014.
If Lakin's conviction is not overturned by December 31st, 2014, or he has not received a pardon, I'll pay FR $100 dollars.
If at anytime from now to December 31st, 2014 that LTC Lakin has his sentence overturned or he is found not guilty or he is pardoned by the President, you pay $100 to FR.
Dude, how many times have I corrected your BS over the last year? More times than I remember. You throwing around the word 'dishonesty' is laughable.
Better Question: How many times have you corrected his BS on *this thread*?
Check and mate is right.
Judge Lind knows the orders originate with the CINC and go down the chain of command. She is, after all, obeying the orders of the alleged CINC in everything she does. She knows where the orders come from and she knows what will happen to her if she disobeys.
That’s why she’s ignoring and refusing to take judicial notice of what everybody knows because they’ve been trained in it, just like that Army Study Guide you quoted shows.
That’s why she’s making her own admitted inferences about what constitutes a lawful order (i.e. if it is required to be obeyed we may infer that it is lawful) rather than actually citing the elements of Article 92, which say something totally different and are supposed to be legally binding. There’s no need for inferences when the language is clear.
The vote of confidence means a lot especially today. Thanks.
I've seen what goes for "legal thought" over there and much of it is Obot troll thinking.
A case in point:
"[BirtherReport.com: To the 4 Obot blogs; How does that CROW taste!?] "
The American Patriot Foundation is pleased to announce that LTC Lakin has repositioned his forces, has retained new legal counsel, and is extremely grateful that the Foundation will be dedicating the critical next few weeks before his planned court-martial on November 3-5, to focusing entirely on public affairs, strategic communications/messaging and coalition-building and that their support will continue seamlessly as the new attorney prepares for trial.
The website of the Foundation is being re-designed to reflect this new focus and emphasis. Contrary to the impression left by some blogs and internet commentary, LTC Lakin is consistent in continuing on the same path that he announced publicly six months ago when he released his first YouTube video-- and consistent with his military training, to continue to request assurance from Pentagon leadership that his military orders, including his deployment orders to Afghanistan, are legal-- authorized at the highest level by a Commander-in-Chief who is Constitutionally eligible, per Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution. As a medical officer and not a lawyer or Constitutional scholar, LTC Lakin is not laying claim to be the sole arbiter of the President's Constitutionality in attempting to determine, without any genuine evidence to make such a determination, the President's "natural born" citizen status. The burden of proof rests solely on Barack Obama to demonstrate to the American people and to the U.S. Armed Forces that he commands, that he is lawfully serving in his current capacity as head of the Executive Branch of the federal government.
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http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/10/press-release-october-4-2010-foundation.html
#336 - hey, when did this info appear??
I like it.
I like it.
You can read the 3 page Brief at Scribd:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/38601003/CONNERAT-OBAMA-Confession-FILED-in-Federal-Court
We take you sometimes for granted Butter. We think of you as the 'Rock of Gibraltar.' :-)
Anyone dissing you like that is either a fool or a troll. End of story.
“Anyone dissing you like that is either a fool or a troll. End of story.”
They could be both.
Under English common law, Obama is a natural born subject of Great Britain.
Deal.
I’ve read that post. It has spread BS for at least the 6+ months that I’ve debated on the birther threads. The problem is that it ignores what the Supreme Court has said, and replaces it with an unnatural interpretation. It ignores the fact that NBC was not found in any translation of Vattel until 10 years AFTER the Constitution was written, and that no one following Vattel would have used the phrase. “Natural born” is an odd wording, and it certainly is not derived from ‘natural’ or ‘indigenous’ - the words used by Vattel.
Had they written that the President must be a ‘natural citizen’ or an ‘indigenous citizen’, the case would have been much stronger. But they wrote “natural born citizen”, and I think the Supreme Court has already written at length about what the Founders had in mind when they inserted that phrase into the Constitution.
It also tries to suggest that the French phrase ‘sujets naturels’, translated NBC, means the word “naturels” by itself means NBC. However, the Supreme Court argued that Natural Born SUBJECT, a well known phrase of English common law, is what the Founders were thinking of - and yes, the French phrase ‘natural subjects’ would reasonably translate into NBS for the British, or NBC for America, if the Supreme Court was correct.
It even distorts SR 511, pretending it supports a requirement for two citizen parents when it does so ONLY for someone born OVERSEAS.
That sort of dishonesty may be required for birthers, but it will not cut the mustard when someone steps into court.
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