Posted on 10/13/2010 3:04:13 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
On consideration of the Petition for Extraordinary Relief in the Nature of a Writ of Mandamus and Application for a Stay of Proceedings, the petition is DENIED.
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Nothing polarik said about your BC caused me to question it. It was only the fact that you had shared it with him. I can tell by looking at the links I posted that they are phony. The backgrounds do not align. They just don’t. It’s that visible. There’s NO question he fabricated something.
“However, it does not excuse the fact you didnt come to me first. It would have saved us both a great deal of unnecessary grief.”
I did come to you about the Oahu anomaly and you blew it off. I guess I kind of thought you weren’t going to help answer that question. I’d moved on from asking you, I suppose. AND I SHOULD HAVE COME TO YOU FIRST. Ok?
Hey Jammieee, did you hear from Onaka yet?? Do you now believe Danae got issued her long form birth certificate? You even have a receipt/transaction number to check out.
Apparently not, Red.
MT is not attempting to reconcile. She’s attempting to mitigate her disgusting behavior by blaming her “lack of diplomacy skills.” She doesn’t regret the way she approached the issue. If she did, she’d offer a full apology to both Danae and El Sordo. Instead she says, “IF you’re on the level, THEN I’m sorry.” That ain’t an apology where I come from.
Frankly, I’m surprised more birthers didn’t speak up to defend Danae and condemn MT’s comments.
Arrghh...I cannot at this point believe anyone online.
These Polarik ‘Date filed by’ colbs have been manufactured..my lesson is learned on that.
No one is above suspicion. You can understand that, no?
Besides, if Obama’s long form was the ONLY bc that differed from every other one available in a particular way—you and I both would be all over it. It would be a red flag.
In fact, we COMPARE these things all the time. That’s why you showed yours n the first place to Polarik.
“Barak Sr. was still under the obedience of Great Britain, not the United States. His permanent residence was still in Kenya. Being a visiting scholar doesn’t put him under ACTUAL U.S. obedience.”
Sorry. No competent lawyer would agree with you. That is why you cannot find someone with ‘standing’ to take your case to court. The courts have been very clear from the founding of the US - someone here with permission of our government is under temporary allegiance to the USA. Obama Sr wasn’t a tourist. He was here living and studying and married to a US citizen, and had every legal right to remain as long as he lived in the USA. He didn’t choose to do so, but neither did the parents of WKA or Elg.
“Except there’s no legal and verifiable proof of Obama being born there.”
There are statements by multiple public officials saying he was born in Hawaii. Against that, you have...suspicion. However, if and when you get PROOF Obama was born outside the US, I’ll join you (armed if need be) in a march on DC to throw him out.
Obama Jr was not born under allegiance to the UK. He was born in the USA, and the British Acts do NOT control US law. Under the US Constitution, he was a US citizen. Had his father retained custody and taken him to Kenya, he COULD have become a Kenyan citizen, or he could have returned to the US as a US citizen at 18.
But his mother retained custody, Obama Jr has never claimed UK or Kenya citizenship, and his US citizenship remains.
“Frankly, Im surprised more birthers didnt speak up to defend Danae and condemn MTs comments.”
Several have privately written me. And not to condemn them either.
This doesn't mean anything when you don't actually document specific UIPA requests and the responses. We know plenty of requests have been made without citing the UIPA. Also, posting misstatements by DOH-babe Fukino means little when the actual laws have been cited showing that she's wrong.
Does anyone else here have a Hawaii COLB to compare with?
I have three of them.
And everything Danae has provided is consistent with my documents. Except for the missing Oahu, which could just be an omission on the part of HDOH.
I ask again. Why would Danae jeopardize herself and her young family by committing fraud? What does she have to gain by providing fake documents? A seat at the 2012 Obama inauguration?
Leave her alone!
IF youre on the level, THEN Im sorry. That aint an apology where I come from.”
It’s all I got. I freely admit it.
She wouldn’t be in any trouble for posting what she’s posted if it were false. She hasn’t defrauded anyone out of anything.
What did I do?
This has me trying to think up other such perspectives.
Bulls in china shops lack finesse.
Obama lacks business acumen.
Well...isn't this rich.
You and your buddies leave no website stone unturned trying to uncover proof that Jamese777 is some sort of paid Obot troll in order to get him banned.
Here we have MissTickly, a self proclaimed "liberal Progressive Constitutionalist, Hillary supporter, AND Atheist", but because she's a birther, you're willing to overlook the fact that she does not belong on Free Republic.
Even though MissTickly greeted Danae's attempt to be helpful much in the same way Polarik did, you are still willing to be all open minded and tolerant of MissTickly's despicable behavior.
Your priorities are upside down.
Not a cool move to call a respected FReeper a liar around here.
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AAh .. vive la différence !
It’s likely that much, if not all, of the discord here and
the wide contrast in our core sensibilities, civility,
outlooks, philosophy and acceptable tactics employed can be
attributed to Miss T’s documented political position of NOT
being a conservative, not an authentic FReeper, not a
believer, and WE ARE.
We’re on completely opposite sides of the street in our
real lives. She’s a liberal partisan, an admitted staunch
PUMA/Hillary supporter.
Though we share the same visceral detestation of the current
WH resident, the core belief that he’s both ineligible as
well as thoroughly incompetent and dangerous, and the
burning desire for his effective removal, that’s likely
just a short term goal for Miss T and where our similarities
end.
I believe Miss T does want BHO gone, but so another lib
will be esconced in our WH to rule this country and promote
and effectuate the same lib policies ... Hillary.
I never gave that core difference so much weight in
previous considerations, as it relates now to the urgent
preservation of our blessed nation, treasured traditions,
conservative values and the principled actions we
conservatives hold so dear, until this episode .. which has
gone a long way toward crystallizing the authentic
differences between libs and us.
I’m sure FR’s a very convenient research site for Miss T
to pursue her ultimate partisan lib goal, but our fight is
the greater good of preserving this great country our
magnificent and courageous Founding Fathers inspired, not
a nation in descent to socialist/bigbrother/liberal
decrepitude under another lib resident in our WH.
The actions and tactics of those involved here reveal much
and remain as references to the great divide in core
philosophies and in that for which we fight.
So, as long as those fundamental differences are always
remembered by the FReepers who read these back and forths,
it’s up to the boss if it continues.
God bless, protect and preserve our dear America.
The working terms here are ACTUAL OBEDIENCE, not temporary allegiance. And you haven't actually documented what you claim, no surprise.
Obama Sr wasnt a tourist. He was here living and studying and married to a US citizen, and had every legal right to remain as long as he lived in the USA.
Holy crap, this is a stupid comment. You need to read SAD's state department records that were released. Her second husband, Lolo, was ALSO here on a temporary student visa, married to a U.S. citizen and was living and studying here, BUT he was kicked out of the country. This is why they applied for several hardship exceptions ... to get him an extension. Barak Sr. would have been no different. He was NOT a permanent resident. He did NOT have permanent domicil.
There are statements by multiple public officials saying he was born in Hawaii.
Yes, those are called hearsay and out-of-court statements. None of these statements have been supported with legal, court-recognized documentation.
Obama Jr was not born under allegiance to the UK.
His OWN website says otherwise. If you want to impugn his credibility, then you're also impugning the credibility of his alleged birth credentials. Sorry, but you're striking out on every count here.
I understand why you feel that way. But I am no longer married to most of those liberal ideals. For what it’s worth.
I plan on voting for Palin in 2012 if I get the chance. But I do understand why you need to make sense of me being here.
Yes, FR is a great place to find research on this issue.
Perhaps it is time for me to go!=) Like I told, Red, part of me just needs an excuse to let go of this issue and move on. It sucks up so much of my life.
Oooooops! I misclicked. Was responding to MT.
Right on!
Fine, fine. I don’t need to be asked thrice.
I will take my crayons and head home. It will be a much need break. Good luck Freepers!
And to you bdz and red steel—goodbye and goodluck!=)
I didn’t blow it off. I amswered honestly that I didn’t know. What am I supposed to do? Make something up?
And it is obvious, Honolulu is on Oahu. Everyone knows that.
When I shared my doc’s with Polarik, he was still a respected person here. It wasn’t until later that he fried himself. I continue to pay the price for honestly just trying to help. I had nothing to gain out of it. I didn’t want any gain out of it. I just wanted to help. Look what it continues to give me.
Don’t wonder why my nose is out of joint......
And thank you for saying you should have come to me first. I was more than happy to offer anything I know or have in my possession.
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