Posted on 09/30/2010 3:55:02 AM PDT by golux
The University of Mississippi has terminated its mascot, "Colonel Reb." The mascot, an archetypal Southern gentleman with a hat, cane, and a little bow-tie, is of course racist.
Affable, bearded and jaunty, with a bright costume that cleverly foiled his dark history on the plantation, Col. Reb, when he was alive, looked rather like that other infamous slave-driver, Col. Sanders, whose inscrutable and permanent smile these days (in markets where he still shows his face) offers only a faint clue as to the fortunes he's made in his long, post-war masquerade as a peddler of fried chicken.
"We just want it to be over," said one Mississippi student on the subject of Col. Reb's execution.
Watch your back, Sanders.
There is of course nothing sacred about a football mascot or a corporate brand, and nothing particularly sad about the disappearance of either one, except for the fact that now there is nothing left of Southern symbolism to erase.
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And now we learn that what legions of Americans consider to be a transcendent symbol of extraordinary military leadership and valor, states' rights, indefatigable heroism, enduring pride and strength in the face of terrible odds and calamitous defeat – the Confederate battle flag – is now officially deemed a symbol of hate by the U.S. armed forces. Prospective members of all branches of the armed forces who happen to have a "Confederate flag" tattoo are automatically rejected.
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When they once again encounter their ancestors, which I believe they will, how will so many Americans account for their feeble treachery?
Maybe, like the Mississippi student, they will say: "We just wanted it to be over."
I wonder what some of those old heroes might say in reply....
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There was a documentary on the integration of big college football in the early 60s that quoted Bear Bryant as saying, re: black players, “I can’t be the first, but I’m damn well not gonna be third.”
My pleasure, FRiend
I knew that. Southern hypocrisy in full bloom. You insist on judging Lincoln by 21st century standards while giving the odious Southern leaders a free ride. Nothing new in that at all.
Still want to argue that its 'not true" that Lincoln wanted to deport slaves?
Yes. What part of 'with their own consent' is so hard for you to comprehend?
...as this gem came from the first one...
And he continued to say that he believed the black man is due the same rights as a white man. I posted it earlier. Your highly selective revulsion to racism is noted, as is your apparent belief that Lincoln was the only racist in town in 1861. But if you place Lincoln's views up against any of your confederate leadership then Lincoln comes off as head and shoulders above the lot.
Lets not even get started on the topic of Lincoln's support of the IL state constitution that forbade blacks from moving there...
Quote please?
Lincoln's State of the Union address, Dec 1862
If not for misquotes you would have nothing at all. Let's look at it in context:
"...and yet I wish to say there is an objection urged against free colored persons remaining in the country which is largely imaginary, if not sometimes malicious.
It is insisted that their presence would injure and displace white labor and white laborers. If there ever could be a proper time for mere catch arguments, that time surely is not now. In times like the present men should utter nothing for which they would not willingly be responsible through time and in eternity. Is it true, then, that colored people can displace any more white labor by being free than by remaining slaves? If they stay in their old places, they jostle no white laborers; if they leave their old places, they leave them open to white laborers. Logically, there is neither more nor less of it. Emancipation, even without deportation, would probably enhance the wages of white labor, and very surely would not reduce them. Thus the customary amount of labor would still have to be performed--the freed people would surely not do more than their old proportion of it, and very probably for a time would do less, leaving an increased part to white laborers, bringing their labor into greater demand, and consequently enhancing the wages of it. With deportation, even to a limited extent, enhanced wages to white labor is mathematically certain. Labor is like any other commodity in the market--increase the demand for it and you increase the price of it. Reduce the supply of black labor by colonizing the black laborer out of the country, and by precisely so much you increase the demand for and wages of white labor."
Truly sinister. Truly. </sarcasm>
You did.
I should have addressed this in my previous post, but please look through my posts and show me where i "claimed" Lincoln advocated this.
Reply 124: "Don’t forget that Lincoln also wanted to use state revenues to deport slaves."
In fact, I simply pointed out he was in favor state funded deportation.
He was in favor of voluntary colonization. Deportation, by definition, is involuntary.
Flinging poo again, eh pokie? Some things never change.
Not at all. I deny none of those words; Lincoln said them all and more. I am attacking you, if that's what you consider it to be, for your hypocrisy, your misinformation, and your foolishness of judging a 19th century individual by 21st century standards. A fair judgement of Lincoln against his peers of the period shows him to be head and shoulders above almost anyone you would care to name.
ARF
I’ve got my battle flag flying so before someone says it insults then how the hell do you think the stars and stripes is to the natives who were robbed, killed, raped, had land taken away etc?
Yes, please do. That first quote is from Thomas Jefferson:
"It is still in our power to direct the process of emancipation and deportation peaceably and in such slow degree as that the evil will wear off insensibly, and their place be pari passu filled up by free white laborers. If on the contrary it is left to force itself on, human nature must shudder at the prospect held up. We should in vain look for an example in the Spanish deportation or deletion of the Moors."
And if you look at the second quote in context, you can see Lincoln was talking about the South:
"But why should emancipation South send the free people North? People of any color seldom run unless there be something to run from. Heretofore colored people to some extent have fled North from bondage, and now, perhaps, from both bondage and destitution. But if gradual emancipation and deportation be adopted, they will have neither to flee from. Their old masters will give them wages at least until new laborers can be procured, and the freedmen in turn will gladly give their labor for the wages till new homes can be found for them in congenial climes and with people of their own blood and race. This proposition can be trusted on the mutual interests involved. And in any event, can not the North decide for itself whether to receive them?
By 1908 at least 37 people had claimed the song as theirs. He’s spewing crap and presenting it as fact.
He bashes the South and look where he’s from. The kookiest state in the US. Beautiful, but nuttiest. San Fran and LA, home of the horoscope reading, pot smoking, Tofu eating, progressive, weirdos. Now before I get flamed, NOT saying ALL and not saying EVERYONE from there. Many have fled, some are forced to remain but do NOT fall into the majority described above.
He bashes the South and look where he’s from. The kookiest state in the US. Beautiful, but nuttiest. San Fran and LA, home of the horoscope reading, pot smoking, Tofu eating, progressive, weirdos. Now before I get flamed, NOT saying ALL and not saying EVERYONE from there. Many have fled, some are forced to remain but do NOT fall into the majority described above.
I agree slavery is a disgrace. Who was selling black people into slavery?
Why non other than black people selling their own friends and relatives. It is still happening today, only the buyers/ slave owners aren't white people.
Is there outrage about that situation? Very little, if any, - because there is a lot of money to be made keeping blacks angry about the past which no one can change. Keep 'em angry and sending money so Jesse, Al, and their ilk can live the good life while leaving the poor to struggle along as best as they can.
Any black person who is allegedly enraged over something that happened 150 years ago, is mentally ill or making money off of it. There is a payoff/ reward or it wouldn't be happening.
Ole Abe wasn’t concerned with slavery.
Abraham Lincoln Quote
“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.”
by:
Abraham Lincoln
(1809-1865) 16th US President
Source:
Fourth Debate with Stephen A. Douglas at Charleston, Illinois, September 18, 1858
(The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln edited by Roy P. Basler, Volume III, pp. 145-146.)
Ole dishonest Abe ignored the advice of Congress and his own generals and instead chose to invade the newly formed Nation to his south causing one of the bloodiest wars ever fought on this continent and the deaths of more citizens than those killed in all the wars combined. The cost of Lincoln’s war incurred a debt that sank the nation into the hands and control of international bankers, something this nation has never recovered from. Lincoln signed into law a revenue-raising measure to help pay for Civil War expenses. The measure created a Commissioner of Internal Revenue and the nation’s first income tax. It levied a 3 percent tax on incomes between $600 and $10,000 and a 5 percent tax on incomes of more than $10,000. Our freedom was truly lost when Lincoln implemented that and today it is know as the IRS. No wonder the Federal government loves Lincoln and promotes the misconception of “ole honest Abe”. It was Lincoln who forced large central government and taxation upon us.
There isn’t a doubt in my mind how that poll would turn out.
LOL! Yea, where did that come from? Who cares and what does that prove? Weirdo!
You’re obsessed with race. STFU.
One of the most racist I’ve seen on FR. In fact I’m suspecting liberal troll.
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