Posted on 09/13/2010 8:40:02 PM PDT by Kabud
This is the original news report from SPRINGFIELD, Effingham County in Georgia, next to the entrance of I-95 to Florida.
Effingham deputies call feds after arresting Russians with shovel, wire cutters outside Georgia Power plant
by Evgeniy Luzhetskiy
SPRINGFIELD — Effingham County sheriff deputies have reported the early Sunday morning arrest of three men to the federal Joint Terrorism Task Force.
The men, two from Russia and one from Kazakhstan, were found near Georgia Power’s Plant McIntosh on Old Augusta Road about 1 a.m. Sunday after a ranger with the Department of Natural Resources reported a suspicious vehicle, Effingham County sheriff’s spokesman David Ehsanipoor said.
Deputies reported the men, who were inside a 1995 Nissan Pathfinder, had a machete, shovel, wire cutters and ski masks. One man also had black silk stockings in his front left pocket.
Arrested were Evgeniy Luzhetskiy, of Kazakhastan Nail Idiatullin and Rustem Ibragimov of Russia. All three reported they lived in Charleston, S.C., deputies reported.
The men were all charged with possession of tools during the commission of a crime.
The three were released after being interviewed by task force members, Ehsanipoor said.
"They did all have visas that allowed them to be here and are supposed to be leaving the country soon."
This is the letter to the editor of savannahnow.com :
To the editor:
I take my liberty to copy the postings that SavannaNow deleted:
By karkas1 | 09/10/10 - 07:47 pm these people are not amish also there are not jews Their ethnic background is one Russian, possibly Christian, and two others Russian Caucasians, possibly Muslims; however this background stuff does not matter, because their true religion is Communism and ethnically there are Marxists - these people don't have motherland, but there are willing to possess the whole Earth. And America is the only country which is an obstacle on their way; so tehre are ready for everything to ruin it.
By karkas1 | 09/10/10 - 07:40 pm You just caught three very dangerous Russian diversants and you are going to let them go?! Do you know what will happen next? Let me explain you. Their bosses back in Moscow will see that it is totally OK to send their agents to the US to set up various attacks against Americans. In case if these agents are caught, there is no punishment for them and in the worst case these agents will be sent back home, as it was done a couple of months ago to the guys from a spy ring, and as it is going to be done now. It means, that in the future you will have to expect tens of thousands of Russians who will be setting up various diversions on you sensitive objects, and even if catch some of them, others will do the job! If you want my advise what to do with these guys - here it is: put them to jail for at least 10 years. Next time they should be scared to go to America with bad intentions. Yet, BTW, Russians will respect you more.
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By Kabud | 09/12/10 - 04:43 am
Setting up one of these devices is complicated. The bombs need a small amount of power to keep them safely in storage. For example, the GRU specialist might have to run a very small wire to an electrical source, such as a power wire, and then attach it to the weapon. The wires can be run as far as one hundred yards or more from the weapon. The wires are small enough that they would easily break if someone tampered with them or tried to follow them to their source. In case there is a loss of power, there is a battery
Nuclear devices can also be slipped across the Mexican or Canadian borders. It is easy to get a bomb to Cuba and from there transport it to Mexico. Usually the devices are carried by a Russian intelligence officer or a trusted agent. If a Russian intelligence officer was for some reason not involved, the human missile transporting the device would be killed after safely handing it over to a GRU specialist. This is a simple security precaution.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/30259323/Why-Russia-is-More-Dangerous-Than-Eve...
2. Spetsnaz fighting shovel.
http://militaryanalysis.blogspot.com/2008_10_01_archive.html
The common Soviet/Russian entrenching tool. Sharp on three sides, a single monolithic object, unlike the current American entrenching tool. Used by Spetsnaz soldiers as a fighting weapon, silent, and in the right hands, downright deadly.
"In a combat training of Spetsnaz soldiers a great attention is paid to their ability to engage in hand-to-hand combat and to use hand-held weapon . . . an entrenching shovel is of special importance . . . it is a formidable weapon of the close combat."
"the entrenching shovel is an excellent throwing implement - the range of aimed throw made by a well-trained specialist is 10 meters or more."
A weapon used as a hand-to-hand fighting tool, and, WHEN USED IN THE RIGHT HANDS, A THROWING WEAPON ALSO!
Again - - from Suvorov:
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov6/09.html
"In the hands of a spetsnaz soldier the spade is a terrible noiseless weapon . . . The little spade can be used in hand-to-hand fighting against blows from a bayonet, a knife, a fist or another spade . . . Finally a soldier is taught to throw the spade as accurately as he would use a sword or a battle axe . . . As it spins in flight [the spade has] accuracy and thrust. It becomes a terrifying weapon. If it lands in a tree it is not so easy to pull out again."
Here, thanks to the Russian web site: "Entrenching Shovel in Close Combat. Version of Spetsnaz GRU. Basic Fighting Technique." you can see video clips of Alexander Popov [???], demonstrating the fighting shovel combat technique.
You see a lot of twirls, pirouettes, jumps, etc. Ballet-like in form??!! This is characteristic of Russian style martial arts? Russian All-round Fighting [RAF] DOES emphasize Russian folk dance as a basis for many martial arts "moves"!? An indigenously developed Russian close-quarters-combat fighting form that is very effective!?
I would ask the question too, HOW OFTEN WOULD SUCH WEAPONS BE EMPLOYED?
Martial arts as taught to special operations units the world over are obviously useful, to say the least, but how often used? I would think very rarely, if at all?
Such martial arts techniques are more than anything else an excellent way of developing physical fitness, building confidence, instilling aggressiveness, AND OF COURSE - - PERHAPS KILLING AN AMERICAN SENTRY - - NOISELESSLY - - WITH A KNIFE OR A SHOVEL!!
An even more frightful weapon is a spade in the hands of a skilled fighter. It was with the Soviet Army spade that we began this book. Ways of using it are one of the dramatic elements of sambo. A spetsnaz soldier can kill people with a spade at a distance of several metres as easily, freely and silently as with a P-6 gun.
Lunev asserted that some of the hidden caches could contain portable tactical nuclear weapons known as RA-115 "suitcase bombs". Such bombs have been prepared to assassinate US leaders in the event of war, according to him [1] Lunev states that he had personally looked for hiding places for weapons caches in the Shenandoah Valley area[1] and that "it is surprisingly easy to smuggle nuclear weapons into the US, either across the Mexican border or using a small transport missile that can slip undetected when launched from a Russian airplane [1]
God Bless USA
From Kabud | 09/12/10 - 01:37 pm http://losangeles.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel10/la051810.htm The FBI is coordinating a training exercise among multiple government and law enforcement organizations at the national and local level, to exercise response capabilities relative to a terrorist attack involving an improvised nuclear device. The exercise will take place Monday, May 17th through Wednesday, May 19th.
But mind that there is no such thing as `homemade nuke`. ON the other hand a suitecase device is a real one. So it is all just double speak.
From New York Times article published on 04/16/2010
Intelligence officials feared that bomb parts might be delivered in diplomatic mail pouches, carried by international air travelers in their luggage or delivered by boat or submarine to an isolated beach.
Communist agents already in the country might then assemble, plant and detonate the weapons. “Surveillance of all Communist Party members and sympathizers is impossible and impractical since numerically they exceed by many times the total Special Agent force of the F.B.I.,” a bureau memo complained. J. Edgar Hoover, the F.B.I. director, who was intensely focused on the smuggling threat, proposed increasing manpower to cope.
Among many potential nuclear saboteurs, F.B.I. field offices identified the proprietor of a left-wing bookstore in Seattle, a reporter for the Soviet news agency Tass and even a representative of the American Council for a Democratic Greece.
When the Polish consul to Detroit arrived in the United States in the mid-1950s with four big boxes, F.B.I. agents surreptitiously searched them for nuclear material. They found 24 bottles of cherry cordial but “no article or part thereof that could be construed as a portion of a weapon of mass destruction,” their secret report solemnly declared.
Security officials later speculated about whether China might set off a smuggled nuke in the United States and make it look like a Soviet attack, provoking devastating war between its rivals. Later, as portable tactical nuclear weapons proliferated in both Eastern and Western Europe, there were periodic alarms about their security.
In the 1950s the United States knew its adversaries had weapons; the mystery was whether they might use them. Today, said Jeffrey T. Richelson, a historian of nuclear weapons, the situation is reversed: Qaeda leaders have suggested publicly that they would use a nuclear weapon, “but as far as we know, Al Qaeda hasn’t even come close to building a bomb.”
(Excerpt) Read more at http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/16/world/16memo.html
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Salt was a great movie (weird it did not have an FR review!!!!) When I watched it I couldn’t stop think of a certain president....
Well said.
Ye-ye-ye, a county deputies arresting some GRU operatives of the same breed who took Kabul with a single company back to 1979?? LOL.
IMO, these ‘Russians’ following their names and a published place of origin are just a worshipers of the religion of peace who got asylum here by the fake claim of getting abused by Russian troops burning their Korans on a daily basis.
And their crime here is not being a Russian agents but stealing a copper from a powerplant cause an idea of making legal business or getting a job are insulting for them as a dishonest Jewish or Christian thing.
These guys are just victims..))
Feel free to go yell at the person who wrote it, which I quoted, and pointed to. You seem to want to argue with anyone and everyone here.
wait a minute,
Georgia, as in, USA!?
I think it’s time to freak!
Kabud, given your knowledge of Spetznatz, what do you think they carried the black silk stockings for? That item has been bothering me - seems too fragile for a garrotte...
Given the shocking possibility that Russian nuclear suitcase bombs may even now be smuggled
into the United States,
I hope the administration reverses its neglect of the
experimental wide area tracking system [WATS] being developed by Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory.
In a hearing before this subcommittee on nuclear
terrorism and countermeasures held on October 1, 1997, the WATS system was
profiled in the hope of promoting its development. WATS currently offers the only
technology under development capable of detecting a nuclear weapon being smuggled
into the United States.
Ironically, after the WATS presentation was warmly received by the R&D
Subcommittee, the administration cut WATS funding to a subsistence level and reorganized the program in ways deleterious to its development. I cannot
understand how the administration, which has often objected to national missile
defenses on grounds that nuclear terrorism poses a bigger threat, can then neglect
the only technology that offers any hope of defense against nuclear terrorism.
What is the justification for keeping America defenseless against both nuclear
missiles and nuclear terrorists?
I have come to expect inconsistency and wishful
thinking, unfortunately, from the administration.
Sorry for the lack of formatting — I tried my best.
The above post is taken from the Scribt site which does not allow copy and paste.
Basically, this former GRU Col., which is of course part of the red Army, is telling us that he was in charge of overseeing special forces from Russia secretly operating in the United States. I paraphrase. Please click on the link provided previously and read for yourself — as it is very interesting.
And from what I know of the SPETSNAZ, if any of them were in it, or 'ex', they wouldn't take too kindly of being arrested by 'police'. They'd fight and take someone out with them. They are trained that their own life is meaningless and prepared to die 'for the mission'.
In short, the SPETSNAZ are kind of like Mafia Hitmen, only they're in the Russian Army. (and there's no comparison with our ARMY SF, Rangers or Navy SEALs).
Until I see 'SPETSNAZ' confirmed, I remain skeptical.
(Not that they weren't up to no good)
“if a nuke ever went off at a power plant, nobady could convince the public that it wasn’t an accident at the plant.”
A nuke going off at a non-nuke plant?
You folks do realize that this isn’t a nuclear plant in question here, right? It’s not even a big conventional plant. I worked at the biggest powerplant in GA many years ago, and it’s nowhere near this location, and it is coal fired, not nuclear. And yes, it’s still the biggest.
These guys look like they’re most likely common thieves/crooks, to me.
See my post above. Still crazy that we let these guys go. Our immigration system is so broken it is unreal.
I’m thinking thieves too...like I said on the ealier thread...if this was about anything..I doubt we would of heard about it.
Thank you for injecting some common sense into this thread.
At the most they *may* be 'Russian Mafia', and the plan was Extortion.
(give us 20,000,000 Rubles or we blow plant, yankee dog)
The hyperventilating in this thread is just unreal. And you’re welcome.
Hell..the rooskie mafia is so weak here they can’t even knock the Mexicans off the top dawg of the drug trade.
It was all a simple communications problem. It was a miss communication.
The order was to study the power plant in Georgia.
Unfortunately which Georgia was not spelled out and the team mistakenly came to the Georgia in the United States.
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