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Insubordinate army doctor asks for court martial: Obama is not president
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Posted on 08/11/2010 11:00:30 AM PDT by traumer

An insubordinate Army doctor has been charged with disobeying orders after failing to show up for duty in Afghanistan and questioning whether President Barack Obama has the right to order him there. Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin, birther and insubordinate soldier headed for court martial

Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin, birther and insubordinate soldier headed for court martial

Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin is scheduled to be arraigned Friday at Fort Belvoir, VA and in all likelihood will either be sentenced to detention and/or given a dishonorable discharge from the military.

Lakin will be charged under Article 92 and 86, Uniform Code of Military Justice which states - Under Article 92, Any person subject to this chapter who:

(1) violates or fails to obey any lawful general order or regulation;

(2) having knowledge of any other lawful order issued by any member of the armed forces, which it is his duty to obey, fails to obey the order; or...

shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

Under Article 86, UCMJ. Any member of the armed forces who, without authority -

(1) fails to go to his appointed place of duty at the time prescribed;

(2) goes from that place; or

(3) absents himself or remains absent from his unit, organization, or place of duty at which he is required to be at the time prescribed;

shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

I hope Lakin gets both jail time and a dishonorable discharge. From the video he posted on YouTube, it looks like he will have a short court martial as it seems he will just plead guilty. Hopefully he will expeditiously sentenced to jail time and a dishonorable discharge.

Lakin is from Greeley, Colorado and was ordered to go to Afghanistan. He did not report to Fort Campbell, KY

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To: Mr Rogers

<>Native born in US Supreme Court usage means born in the USA.
And that is also how they use natural born...<>

That must be the Supreme Court of your imagination, not the one that we who live in the real world and the Senators who authored the SR511 are familiar with:

http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/10/18/4-supreme-court-cases-define-natural-born-citizen/

http://theobamafile.com/ObamaNaturalBorn.htm#LeahyResolution


81 posted on 08/11/2010 12:44:47 PM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
I think you're wrong. Unless he decides to plea-bargain something I think Lakin will be court martialed this fall.

Wrong about what? The prosecution does not want it introduced in court that LTC Lakin's order is linked to Obama's deployment war orders as that would introduce Obama's legitimacy to the court to give lawful orders. They want to make it only an order that came from superior military officer(s).

82 posted on 08/11/2010 12:49:25 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Godebert
This thing is getting beyond the control of Obama and his bolshevik operatives. LTC Lakin doing hard-labor at Leavenworth cannot possibly be any part of their strategy.

I think this whole eligibility issue is becoming an ever-increasing thorn in their side. It's not going away, much as they'd like it to, and they may eventually be forced to address it. But as far as Lakin's case is concerned I doubt it's causing them any lost sleep. He won't be able to make Obama's eligibility a factor in the case and by the end of the year it'll be all blown over.

83 posted on 08/11/2010 12:53:17 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Red Steel
The prosecution does not want it introduced in court that LTC Lakin's order is linked to Obama's deployment war orders as that would introduce Obama's legitimacy to the court to give lawful orders.

It won't be.

They want to make it only an order that came from superior military officer(s).

Given the charges lodged agains Lakin, that's exactly what it is.

84 posted on 08/11/2010 12:56:19 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: traumer
Keep the faith and hold fast, Lt. Col. Lakin! Remember -

All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

85 posted on 08/11/2010 12:56:24 PM PDT by MamaTexan (Dear GOP - ~ We suck less ~ is NOT a campaign platform)
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To: butterdezillion
And the HDOH has revealed via official responses that Obama’s BC is amended, which means it has no legal value.

In your exchanges with the HDOH, did you ever ask or confirm if a birth certificate can be amended to change the location of birth?

86 posted on 08/11/2010 1:00:35 PM PDT by LorenC
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To: Non-Sequitur
Given the charges lodged agains Lakin, that's exactly what it is.

I obviously disagree. Lakin's order to deploy would not exist if it was not first ordered by Obama the Executive Branch. Lakin's military superiors are only carrying out the orders that originated from Obama.

87 posted on 08/11/2010 1:02:17 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: mainsail that

When you simply retire, it’s much harder to get a good book deal.


88 posted on 08/11/2010 1:03:44 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: MamaTexan

Not a real Schopenhauer quote, btw.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Arthur_Schopenhauer#Disputed

For a guy who died in 1860, the earliest attribution of this quote to him was in the 1980s.


89 posted on 08/11/2010 1:08:10 PM PDT by LorenC
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To: LorenC

Why wouldn’t it?? If a mistake was made on the original, then such a change seems like it should be permissible.


90 posted on 08/11/2010 1:14:38 PM PDT by edge919
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To: Non-Sequitur
But as far as Lakin's case is concerned I doubt it's causing them any lost sleep.

It seems to be making CNN and other media outlets lose sleep. Several articles have emerged recently trying to counter and downplay the skepticism based on Obama's failure to prove his eligibility.

91 posted on 08/11/2010 1:16:56 PM PDT by edge919
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To: MHGinTN

I’ve come to believe that Dr. Fukino’s statement that he is a “natural-born citizen”, means he was delivered vaginally.

An area she is likely qualified to provide assurance and/or guidance.


92 posted on 08/11/2010 1:20:17 PM PDT by NOVACPA
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To: Non-Sequitur
He's being charged with waxing his carrot instead of going to Afghanistan.... because he wanted to wax his carrot .... after 20 years of exemplary service, awards, and The fact that two retired Generals are stating that Obama should show his BC for Mr. Lakin and the rest of the Army so that they all know he is qualified.

To summarize, Mr. Lakin is a Carrot waxer and this has nothing to do with Obamas qualifications, only carrot waxing. How am I doing Seq?

93 posted on 08/11/2010 1:23:01 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: sickoflibs; MissTickly

Not a crime, because nobody at that point knew that Obama’s BC was amended. If Obama’s BC was not amended it is possible that Pelosi had actually confirmed his eligibility (though the HDOH has already confirmed that neither she nor any democratic leader even ASKED to see his BC), as she swore on the certification for HI that he was Constitutionallly eligible.

The only way we KNOW that he didn’t qualify is because his BC is amended so he couldn’t have qualified without a legal procedure first finding his BC to be probative.

IOW, Fukino’s deception - failing to reveal that though his BC is “on record in accordance with HDOH policies and procedures”, those policies mean that the BC has no LEGAL value - was critical to pulling this off. But she was caught in cross-examination from some pesky “vexatious requestors”. Thank you SO MUCH, Miss Tickly!!


94 posted on 08/11/2010 1:26:00 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: NOVACPA

Fukino said she saw unknown vital records that ‘verify’ Obama is a ‘natural-born American citizen.’ Of course, no vital record in the state of Hawaii makes such a declaration, especially because there is no such legal entity. In this country, we are United States citizens. It’s not a legally binding statement, and in a court of law would have to be backed up by some sort of evidence.


95 posted on 08/11/2010 1:28:41 PM PDT by edge919
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To: bvw

Well-said.

And I just looked yesterday at a case where the court overturned a court-martial conviction because the military had violated the soldier’s due process rights by using an “EVEN IF” argument to keep the actual charge from being defensible.

That’s exactly what the Investigating Officer did with Lakin. His whole reason for denying Lakin access to evidence and witnesses was because Lakin would still be guilty EVEN IF the order he violated was not lawful because it came from an unconsitional chain of command. The whole argument by Phil Driscoll was an “EVEN IF” argument.

So already the foundation is being laid for Lakin to sue in civil court because he is definitely being denied due process if not allowed discovery that would address whether the order he disobeyed was, in fact, lawful as the charge against him claims.


96 posted on 08/11/2010 1:30:56 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: sickoflibs
I am pretty sure that chief justice Roberts swore Obama in.

Maybe he didn't swear Obama in. If you recall, Obama botched the oath, which resulted in Roberts allegedly swearing in Obama a second time the next day, except without any video or audio to prove it. Maybe Biden was secretly sworn-in??

97 posted on 08/11/2010 1:32:46 PM PDT by edge919
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To: Non-Sequitur

Who ordered him to deploy then?


98 posted on 08/11/2010 1:34:22 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: Red Steel
Oh, contra. Lakins Orders may have originated from his commanding officers wife.

All officers must be faithful to their commanders, not any outdated piece of paper that Mr. Obama pees on every morning. This is “Hope and Change”. After all, White men produced that document so it must be crap.

99 posted on 08/11/2010 1:34:46 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: edge919

“... if born to parents who are citizens. You have to use ALL the words, not just the ones you like. “

Incorrect. They have used the terms as synonyms. They have NEVER said natural born requires two citizen parents.

They HAVE said NBC is analogous to natural born subject, and that a natural born subject could have two alien parents...


100 posted on 08/11/2010 1:37:12 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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