Posted on 08/11/2010 11:00:30 AM PDT by traumer
An insubordinate Army doctor has been charged with disobeying orders after failing to show up for duty in Afghanistan and questioning whether President Barack Obama has the right to order him there. Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin, birther and insubordinate soldier headed for court martial
Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin, birther and insubordinate soldier headed for court martial
Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin is scheduled to be arraigned Friday at Fort Belvoir, VA and in all likelihood will either be sentenced to detention and/or given a dishonorable discharge from the military.
Lakin will be charged under Article 92 and 86, Uniform Code of Military Justice which states - Under Article 92, Any person subject to this chapter who:
(1) violates or fails to obey any lawful general order or regulation;
(2) having knowledge of any other lawful order issued by any member of the armed forces, which it is his duty to obey, fails to obey the order; or...
shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.
Under Article 86, UCMJ. Any member of the armed forces who, without authority -
(1) fails to go to his appointed place of duty at the time prescribed;
(2) goes from that place; or
(3) absents himself or remains absent from his unit, organization, or place of duty at which he is required to be at the time prescribed;
shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.
I hope Lakin gets both jail time and a dishonorable discharge. From the video he posted on YouTube, it looks like he will have a short court martial as it seems he will just plead guilty. Hopefully he will expeditiously sentenced to jail time and a dishonorable discharge.
Lakin is from Greeley, Colorado and was ordered to go to Afghanistan. He did not report to Fort Campbell, KY
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Of course not. The president doesn’t pay the military.
Again, Lakin is not charged with disobeying Obama's orders but the orders of Colonel Roberts, Colonel McHugh, and Lieutenant Colonel Judd.
I'll qualify my last statement to you. Obama's orders do not have the backing of the US Constitution where only being constitutionally qualified presidential office holders derive their legitimacy and authority.
“all Lakin has to do is cite the Supreme Court’s definition of natural born to prove that Obama is not Constitutionally qualified”
Umm...what definition is that? The one where they equate native born with natural born? The one where they say the meaning of natural born citizen is found in the English common law phrase ‘natural born subject’?
If all authority for orders resides in the President, then any order since 20 Jan 2009 has - by your standard - been illegal and unenforceable.
The orders to pay Lakin are made by officers under the President, correct?
Again, as I've stated a few times in the past. I expect the Army to keep the charges and the issue of Obama out of the court. They do not want to go there for obvious reasons.
It has been shown to you all orders from military commanders are issued on behalf of the CINC. You stated numerous times they are not.
Military orders and regulations must abide by the constitution.
Obama is not qualified to be president based on the citizenship of his father.
Being born within the walls of a church does not make one a Christian.
Seems you are always bias to Obama. Why is that? Why are you protecting him?
“Officers take an oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies both foreign and domestic. Art II Sec 1 Clause 5 defines eligibility for president. Obama is not a natural born citizen.
Therefore he is a usurper. “
And “Bush stole the election” so is not the commander, and Congress didn’t declare war so the Iraqi war is illegal.
Who decides these things, Congress, the courts?
You are right. The Supreme Court definition of native born does equal that of natural born (born in the country to parents who are citizens) and not the 14th amendment definition of ‘citizen of the United States. Precedent is precedent, which means Obama is not president.
Regardless of whether one agrees with Lakin’s method or not, one has to agree that this man has some real balls, something lacking in so many Americans these days. He believes in something and is putting himself at risk to follow through with that belief. Most people, especially on the “conservative” side, can’t be bothered to take 10 minutes out of their day or say two words in defense of their country, but this guy is risking it all. Anyone who can speak with contempt for this guy is not an American conservative.
The Constitutional authority for funding the armies comes from Congress, not the Commander in Chief.
Native born in US Supreme Court usage means born in the USA.
And that is also how they use natural born...
Congress provides funding for both pay and deployments. Military officers decide who it goes to and how much. If a deployment order rests in the President, then so does an order to pay someone.
It's been stated many times. And I've asked many times if that means that every order given by every officer in every branch of service since January 20, 2009 has been illegal. Well, does it?
Seems you are always bias to Obama. Why is that? Why are you protecting him?
I am biased against officers deciding for themselves what orders are legal and what are not. I believed Huet-Vaughan and Watada both deserved court martials for doing so, and I believe Lakin does as well. That makes me pro-military, not pro-Obama.
... if born to parents who are citizens. You have to use ALL the words, not just the ones you like.
Congress provides funding for both pay and deployments. Military officers decide who it goes to and how much. If a deployment order rests in the President, then so does an order to pay someone.
For a deployment?? And Lakin refused deployment, so I guess you're right, the president hasn't authorized any deployment payments to Lakin yet ... really, your logic is very tortured. I hate to see what it looks like when you try to cross a street.
I think you're wrong. Unless he decides to plea-bargain something I think Lakin will be court martialed this fall.
You really twist yourself into a pretzel with all your ridiculous arguments.
If he is indeed ineligible then that would certainly be true. But what does that have to do with the lawfulness of orders given by Roberts, McHugh, and Judd?
go to the article and leave comments mine was the 6th. We should be able to make the SF lefties have an aneurysm.
This thing is getting beyond the control of Obama and his bolshevik operatives. LTC Lakin doing hard-labor at Leavenworth cannot possibly be any part of their strategy.
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