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Second General Backs Lakin Says President Should Produce Birth Certificate
The Greeley Gazette ^ | 8/9/10 | Jack Minor

Posted on 08/10/2010 1:15:44 PM PDT by jamese777

A second General has come out in support of former Greeley resident Lieutenant Colonel Terry Lakin, who is challenging in court President Obama’s eligibility to be President, saying a good leader would gladly produce the documentation and put this issue to rest.

This past Friday, Lt. Col Lakin attended a military hearing to face several charges including missing a movement. Following the hearing, Lakin was ordered not to speak to the press and was immediately taken by military escort back to Walter Reed Medical Center without even being permitted to speak to his lawyer.

Lakin is being represented by both military and civilian counsel. Margaret Hemenway, spokeswoman for Lt. Col. Lakin said one of his attorneys Paul Rolf Jensen is considering filing a complaint over the manner his client was treated following the hearing.

Army Major General (Ret) Jerry Curry a decorated combat veteran has issued statement saying he agrees with Lakin that the President should provide proof of eligibility. Curry served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for the Carter Administration, as Press Secretary to the Secretary of Defense for the Reagan Administration, and has worked in international relations, public affairs, management, aviation, and research and development.

General Curry lamented that members of the military were having to raise the issue “It shouldn’t be the Lieutenant Colonels, Sergeants and Generals in the Army it should be the Congressman and Senators on both sides of the issue asking this man to step up to the plate” and provide the proof to the American people. Curry expressed concern for Lakin telling the Gazette “the administration will do its best to destroy him personally.”

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: army; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; eligibility; fraud; generaljerrycurry; lakin; military; naturalborncitizen; obama; terrylakin
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To: SpaceBar; All

“The joint chiefs should simply have Obama arrested and stand trial in a military court.”

As savory a mental picture that is, it cannot nor should not happen. We are not some third world banana republic.

I’m associated with the military, and it is NOT our business to decide who is or isn’t POTUS. I do agree with the orderly way LTC Lakin is pursuing his case. I hope he is successful; but the talking heads here on FR have already got him tired and convicted.


81 posted on 08/10/2010 8:09:08 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: jamese777

You use it for ‘shorthard’?? What in Faithersville is that??


82 posted on 08/10/2010 8:12:25 PM PDT by edge919
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To: jamese777

“Do generals not have to read or obey the UCMJ these days?”

They are retired generals. I don’t believe they are subject to the UCMJ anymore.


83 posted on 08/10/2010 8:13:42 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: LucyT; Smokeyblue; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; rxsid; MeekOneGOP

General Jerry Curry has a very impressive bio, among serving three Presidents!!!


84 posted on 08/10/2010 10:26:25 PM PDT by danamco (")
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To: Spaulding

We also need to get to the bottom of the Indonesian connection from the missing Passport pages regarding the FOIA that finally was presented to Mr. Strunk


85 posted on 08/10/2010 10:35:54 PM PDT by danamco (")
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To: jamese777
Yes James777, I'm well aware the Dr. Lakin has apparently taken that position and it puzzles me. I've questioned whomever manages the blog on his site. My positive assumption is that the Obots and the JournoList media have so successfully clouded the issue for the public with tabloid conjecture (not that none of it isn't true) about who the real father was, who the real mother was, etc. Dr. Lakin’s team may have decided that presenting doubts about Obama’s eligibility in terms easy to understand - he hasn't shown a long form birth certificate - will attract more interest and thus support.

It is obviously true that the regime has gone to considerable effort to keep most of the legal documents concerning Obama's life concealed, from disappearing kindergarten records, to prosecuting records technicians who might have seen his test records and grant applications, to perhaps killing an operative working for Obama’s security chief sent to “cauterize” Obama’s U.S. State Dept. passport records.

Dr. Lakin did include “...and puts to rest the other reasonable questions surrounding your unproven eligibility.” Perhaps he wants to open the door using what appears to be the “low-hanging-fruit” of concealed records to reach discovery. The natural born citizen charge, while obviously true, leads straight to the Supreme Court, and may enhance the likelihood of a lengthy stall, backroom meetings, and the kind of transparency for which the regime has become famous. The lack of records is in evidence, and may be sufficient evidence to force discovery. If there is a trial, some judge must state the definition of a natural born citizen. Would anyone dare contradict John Jay, John Marshall, Morrison Waite, James Wilson, James Kent, Joseph Story, or 14th Amendment John Bingham?

If a birth certificate exists, which I suspect is the case, then the concealment was to direct attention from the fact of ineligibility based upon an alien father and Obama’s admitted birth as a British citizen. If some court is granted discovery, a birth certificate will appear with some story about why it was embarrassing. Like Chester Arthur who helped prolong the false charge that Chester was born in Canada or Ireland, leading the political enemies away from the real weakness. Arthur always had a U.S. birth certificate which he never chose to make public. The false charge became such an issue that the date of Arthur's father's naturalization was never explored until Leo Donofrio came across the documents in 2008, documents obviously missed when Arthur had his personal effects burned shortly before his death. Arthur, like I believe, Obama knew that if he were ever forced to reveal the birth certificate, he held the trump card. After being forced to prove his U.S. birth no one would dare ask other questions.

My negative assumption is that Dr. Lakin is another elaborate charade to misdirect the public, like an illusionist telling you what to watch, as were Senate Bill 2678 and Senate Res. 511 by Clair McCaskill to give the impression that McCain had been, after ten years of hearings and law suits, finally made eligible. I don't think this is likely. Lakin’s public service was hard earned. He would have too little to gain. It's like the combat seasoned pilots over Long Island who saw a missile headed for Flight 800. They had nothing to gain from lying, whereas the Clinton administration, FBI and CIA, by covering the truth, protected the president's re-electability. So I'm assuming that the Lakin position is a legal tactic. I do agree with you, the Lakin statement is inconsistent with the legal and Constitutional certainty that Obama’s ineligibility is based upon evidence provided long ago by Obama himself. That was audacious, and clever. He knew he couldn't hide it, so he advertised it. Obama chose, from my new favorite among political slogans, Andy Stern's “First use the power of persuasion, and if that doesn't work, the persuasion of power” to surpress the few who might know or learn about the meaning and intent of the framers requirement of natural born citizenship for just our president. The Obama team is counting on our ignorance, and counting on considerable help from the state-run media in keeping us ignorant.

86 posted on 08/10/2010 10:59:31 PM PDT by Spaulding
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To: ZULU

You said:

The BEST hope for America is to prove this bastard is an illegitimate President.

It would call into question the legality of his appointments and any laws he has enacted, in addition to removing his Marxist Muslim Butt from the Oval Office in disgrace.

If he knowingly CONCEALED the status of his lack of qualifiction, he may be subject to criminal or civil penalties.

This is exactly why "birthers" are targets. Obama and everyone who has given him cover knows it. This is how they will fail in their mission to destroy America.

 


87 posted on 08/10/2010 11:36:34 PM PDT by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: edge919

You use it for ‘shorthard’?? What in Faithersville is that??


Its known in colloquial English as a “typo”. Can you say “typo”? That’s “tie-po”. Try it again, “typo.”

Very good, Edge. You’ll get colloquial English down in “no time flat.” That’s called an “idiomatic expression”...”no time flat.” Can you say “idiomatic expression, Edge?”


88 posted on 08/10/2010 11:42:24 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777

Overkilling the reply doesn’t make your goof-up any less ridiculous.


89 posted on 08/10/2010 11:49:27 PM PDT by edge919
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To: stuartcr

“I bet there won’t be many active generals saying that.”

As he says, they shouldn’t have to.

And they aren’t supposed to.


90 posted on 08/11/2010 12:05:28 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: truth_seeker

True, they shouldn’t have to, and true the LTC wasn’t supposed to either.


91 posted on 08/11/2010 6:51:29 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
I suspect the reason the military whisked Lakin straight to Walter Reed was to put him in the psych ward and claim he is crazy.

Nothing new there. This communist administration is following the defunct boss, The USSR.

Any Soviet citizen who dared open his mouth was put in a psychiatric ward and drugged to oblivion. They had an explanation to their actions: if you opposed the communist government, you had to be out of your mind, given the punishment for such offense!

If we let the situation deteriorate more than it did already, putting dissidents away as crazy with the media support will certainly be the order of the day, as you said:

Sad to say but that is not uncommon in the military and may be coming to a city near you under Obamacare.

92 posted on 08/11/2010 7:26:02 AM PDT by melancholy (It ain't Camelot, it's Scam-a-lot!)
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To: jamese777
Army Major General (Ret) Jerry Curry
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Retired. So?...I how does this help? :-(

93 posted on 08/11/2010 7:45:44 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: jamese777
Obama appointed the Joint Chiefs. They are all his personal choices.

Wonderful! According to you, the joint chiefs are now considered 0b0z0's joint chefs, I wonder what will be on the menu.

Why, James, you started a "Birther" thread! Did you cross to the dark side or are you just being "democratic?"

94 posted on 08/11/2010 7:51:44 AM PDT by melancholy (It ain't Camelot, it's Scam-a-lot!)
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To: DrC
No Democrat can advance a coherent argument about why withholding the long form BC is a good idea or justifiable.
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Exactly! The **facts** are really very simple:

Fact: It is a simple matter to prove that one is a natural born citizen.

Fact: A natural born president would be **HONORED** to promptly prove ( with the **best** evidence) to any soldier or other citizen that he was indeed natural born and eligible to be president and Commander in Chief.

Fact: Obama has gone to considerable effort and spent tax dollars and his own to prevent the release of the common documents that would prove ( or disprove) his natural born status.

Conclusion: That Obama has treated ( and continues to treat) military officers and other citizens in the manner that he has ( and continues to do), strongly indicates that he is a usurper.

95 posted on 08/11/2010 7:51:58 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: jamese777

How many are there that won’t speak out? All it takes is one small crack in the Dam.


96 posted on 08/11/2010 7:53:13 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Whatever the reason, the fact that military official are requiring Obama’s signature on orders speaks volumes (to me) about this administration.
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I have no military experience. Could you expand on this for me? What is the significance of have Obama personally sign orders? What does trust have to do with it?

97 posted on 08/11/2010 7:58:11 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: melancholy
I am glad there is someone else out there who knows this.

If we let the situation deteriorate more than it did already, putting dissidents away as crazy with the media support will certainly be the order of the day, as you said:

98 posted on 08/11/2010 10:24:23 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: NoLibZone

Great idea!


99 posted on 08/11/2010 10:31:45 AM PDT by jslade (People that are easily offended OFFEND ME!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Smart, you sound.


100 posted on 08/11/2010 10:48:41 AM PDT by Greenperson
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