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Dealing with citizens legally carrying a concealed weapon
policeone.com ^ | July 26, 2010 | Ron Avery

Posted on 07/28/2010 6:23:51 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought

As the ‘right to carry’ spreads across the United States, many law enforcement agencies and police officers express their unease — and for some, outright alarm — at the idea of citizens carrying concealed weapons.

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Law abiding citizens do not expect to be treated like a felon — nor should they be. They will be angry if you prone them out, spread eagle them against a wall, or take their firearm from them without just cause. Good point to remember: A little thought and common sense goes a long way here.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist
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To: Feckless

Same here in the Panhandle.....I carry a Guncrafters Ind Glock in 50GI ......the DPS always asked if they can shoot it.....:o)

CHL folks for most part in my small town are known an trusted by local cops. Few times I travel from home I just stay on cruise control an avoid a traffic stop.


21 posted on 07/28/2010 6:47:44 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: School of Rational Thought

The head on the swivel thing is so true. I personally don’t do it and don’t understand why others do. But I can spot a CCW person in a bar without even trying. He’s the one drinking water, with a pocket knife pocket clip showing on his pants pocket, and looking around more than normal.


22 posted on 07/28/2010 6:47:56 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: STONEWALLS

Excellent. Officers are not opposed to the law abiding having a right to carry and doing so. The bad guys already have them so it’s still even, except now, once in awhile, the law abiding are able to rescue, save lives, and hold until the cops come. A straw argument to see any disadvantage.


23 posted on 07/28/2010 6:49:00 PM PDT by RitaOK
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

But, but, but... I thought that the police were our friends, could do no wrong, walked on water...

The sooner folks realize that while the cops may not be the enemy , they are not your friends either, the better off society as a whole will be.


Well cops representate the state and the govenment.
This is true.
But then again do you really want to have no laws or “justice”? survival of the fittest? Then go to somalia for example they have this there. This is called anarchy! and this is not definitely a good thing!


24 posted on 07/28/2010 6:51:53 PM PDT by darkside321
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To: STONEWALLS; TSgt; driftdiver

My CCW class was taught by a sheriff deputy. He told us to NEVER tell a city cop you have a gun, unless he asks you point blank “are you carrying a gun”. He said first of all, it’s none of their business, and second, city cops are paranoid and will freak on you, call backup, and you will be surrounded by ten angry cops in no time.


25 posted on 07/28/2010 6:52:23 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: mamelukesabre

Or like the guy in Las Vegas you will end up dead.


26 posted on 07/28/2010 6:54:03 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SampleMan

“The police get paid to protect us. We do not forfeit our rights to protect them.”

Several cases in Texas where the LEO’s butt has been saved by a law abiding armed citizen.


27 posted on 07/28/2010 6:54:06 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (FUBO! I salute you with the soles of my shoes!)
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To: freedomwarrior998

Thanks once again for the dozen or so punctuation marks and all caps sarcastic comments. You really go a long way in forwarding your ‘argument’ on these type of threads.


28 posted on 07/28/2010 6:55:05 PM PDT by Sax
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To: darkside321

“Then go to somalia for example they have this there. This is called anarchy! and this is not definitely a good thing! “

What is it called when there is one set of laws for some and another set of laws for others?


29 posted on 07/28/2010 6:55:16 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: darkside321

Whether you are in Atlanta Georgia, Nashville Tennessee or Somalia you are responsible for your own safety.

In America the cops are not responsible for our safety, they are responsible for investigating crimes and arresting those accused of said crimes. The US Supreme Court put it very eloquently recently.

When they said, “Its not the job to protect the individual person, but to protect the citizenry as a whole.”

Once the country gets its head out of its @$$ and realizes this the better off we will be.


30 posted on 07/28/2010 6:59:28 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: driftdiver

slavery
feudalism
serfdom
monarchy

take your pick.


31 posted on 07/28/2010 7:00:10 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: driftdiver
What is it called when there is one set of laws for some and another set of laws for others?

The US Criminal Justice System...

32 posted on 07/28/2010 7:00:19 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: driftdiver

What is it called when there is one set of laws for some and another set of laws for others?


Then i would say this sucks and should be changed.
But then again we are all humans and i guess we learned to survival of the fittest is not something we agree.
There is a reason why african countries are called 3rd world and this has nothing to do with the fact that everybody may own a ak47. You think americans are armed? Think again! you get a full aouto AK for 50 Dollars in africa! But then again i don´t want to live there. i prefer to pay 1000 (just a number) dollars for my semi auto AK and live here bevore i had to live there.


33 posted on 07/28/2010 7:05:22 PM PDT by darkside321
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To: Squantos
My Harley doesn't have cruise control :-P

Local cop asked me once CCW law was passed if I was gonna get a permit to carry my "hog leg" (Charter Arms .44 SPL). I told him my permit was over 220 years old.... he laughed and said "have a nice day". I've since gotten the state permit.

34 posted on 07/28/2010 7:07:07 PM PDT by Feckless (Don't care where he was born. The oath I took said "...against all enemies, foreign and domestic".)
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To: mamelukesabre
The head on the swivel thing is so true. I personally don’t do it and don’t understand why others do.

Perhaps situational awareness?

35 posted on 07/28/2010 7:07:17 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Need work. MBA, CPA, Black Belt. Diverse industry and cross border experience.)
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To: Sax

You are welcome.


36 posted on 07/28/2010 7:11:15 PM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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To: freedomwarrior998
What I am saying is that I've read through plenty of related threads, and I've noticed your comments, which are always rife with emotion and spring loaded, knee-jerk comments. I would assume that you're trying to defend the point of view of the average law enforcement officer, but really I think that your tactics are working in the opposite direction.

I fully realize that there are two dynamics at work here - the protection of honest hard working cops and the rights of the average citizen, and of course there are abuses on both sides of this equation. In my opinion the taunting and sarcasm make your side of the equation (as noble as the intent may be) that much harder to empathsize with, which I would imagine is the opposite of your intent.

37 posted on 07/28/2010 7:12:30 PM PDT by Sax
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To: School of Rational Thought

Good article, and very refreshing to read the reader comments on the site.


38 posted on 07/28/2010 7:12:58 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: SampleMan

Let’s all say this together, “The police get paid to protect us. We do not forfeit our rights to protect them.” This is especially true when it is just about making them feel superior.

This is not a true statement. Police will tell you their job is not to protect you. Their job is to keep the peace and enforce the law. Period.... Just ask one of them and they will tell you that.


39 posted on 07/28/2010 7:16:38 PM PDT by tryon1ja
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To: School of Rational Thought

Uh, ok barney fife.

They only do it when they are carrying, barney.


40 posted on 07/28/2010 7:24:32 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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