Family and pediatrician tangle over gun question

Ocala.com ^ | Saturday, July 24, 2010 | Fred Hiers

[Suck My AR-16]

Family and pediatrician tangle over gun question

It was a question Amber Ullman least expected Wednesday from her children's pediatrician.

Do you keep a gun in the house?

When the 26-year-old Summerfield woman refused to answer, the Ocala doctor finished her child's examination and told her she had 30 days to find a new pediatrician and that she wasn't welcome at Children's Health of Ocala anymore.

"Whether I have a gun has nothing to do with the health of my child," said the mother of three girls.

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[longtermmemmory]

This is like the 1970’s where the leftist doctors were anti-nuke and would not shut up about their personal anti-nuke views.

Doctors are now slaves of the state.
They should dutifly shut up as good property of the state.

[Raycpa]

Can we assume the only issue of contention was her refusal to answer the gun question?

[Apple Blossom]

The outrage over the question is way overdue. I have been asked whether or not their are firearms in my house at my daughters well-kid visits since she was 3 years old (she’s now 14). How you choose to answer, is entirely up to you.

I understand the “child safety” side of the issue the pediatricians’ office is trying to address, but this could be used in the future to confiscate firearms from the home when our medical records are no longer as private as they are now. Soon they may become something the federal government is very interested in.

The beauty of the free market system that we still have is that the doctor is allowed to ask them to go to another office, and the patients’ mother is free to decline to answer. So far there is still a bright side.

[combat_boots]

Bingo.

The check-box with the yes selected will go into a ‘special’ list in an unnamed part of a building, which will then be reported to..........

Of course, you could always say, “Well, yes. But you aren’t asking whether it’s a real gun or a water gun or a spray gun or a toy gun or a picture of a gun.” Let’s be specific. Is said gun of a certain dimension? Is it usable? For what? Is said gun part of a collection? Of what brand? Of what is it composed?......Etc.”

It’s the little things.

[Gay State Conservative]

Pediatrician by in large are POSs. What type of “training” does it take to be a “pediatrician”?

Pediatricians,just like brain surgeons,heart surgeons and all other physicians,go through 4 years of medical school,a year of "internship" and at least a year or two of additional training.Some specialties require many years of "post graduate training"...I think heart surgery is something like 8 years...and others require only a few. General pediatrics,I think, might be one of the latter.

[668 - Neighbor of the Beast]

Any professional board you want to complain to, is likely to be on the side of the nosy pediatrician.
You can also be reported to CPS, right quick, for getting huffy as if you have something to hide. So be prepared for consequences when you object to gun questions and private doctor-patient inquisitions where you are cordially requested to leave the room.
I’m just the messenger, FRiends.

[Candor7]

"I want to let parents know that there could be consequences if you refuse to answer a question that you feel is private," she said. "Now my children have to suffer because of this and that's not right.">>>>>>>>>>>>>

Thats the way fascism works. The left want to use health reasons to introduce medically based gun control using statistical analysis, and put gun owners outside the coverage of public option Obama Care,if the insured has a gun at home.

That is where its headed, and thats why the questions are being recommended by pediatric professional oversight groups in each state.It has nothing to do much with keeping children safe, which is a parents responsibility, not the physicians, nor the states. It has to do wih gun control, and forcing people who have guns to get rid of them if they want Obama public health care, which soon will be the only option for most families.

Like the doctor says, he has a list of all the families who have guns ( about half of them he questioned) and they will later have to get rid of or be uninsured. Thats why he has the list and the question will be on the Obama Care Coverage forms that doctors will fill out.

Don't you just love fascism? ( sarc.)

And so the population will become disarmed if it wants health care.

And like those living under totalitarian regimes around the world,Americans have to learn to lie.

[dpwiener]

Sue the SOB.....

There are no grounds, legal or moral, to sue the doctor. Just find another doctor (which is what this family is doing). And warn other people about the doctor if you want, to make things uncomfortable for him and reduce his clientele. But ultimately he has a right to conduct his medical practice as he wishes, and to reject patients if he wishes. Likewise, patients have a right to reject him for his intrusive questions.

[Bruinator]

Oh I don’t know it might take a few years of school. I would expect the pediatricians that got my daughter well are the exception to your rule.

[DoughtyOne]

If his facility receives one dime of government funding, he has no business telling patients they can’t obtain services there. PERIOD.

And every health facility does get government funds.

She should get herself a good lawyer and retire.

Next time Sparky starts thinking about invading his patient’s privacy, he’ll think twice, if he’s still employed.

[webstersII]

That doctor is a control freak.

He should stick to giving advice when asked.

[Crim]

Tell them “HELL NO!...I’m a hoplophobe!!!”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoplophobia

[DBrow]

Source

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This statement reaffirms the 1992 position of the American Academy of Pediatrics that the absence of guns from children's homes and communities is the most reliable and effective measure to prevent firearm-related injuries in children and adolescents. A number of specific measures are supported to reduce the destructive effects of guns in the lives of children and adolescents, including the regulation of the manufacture, sale, purchase, ownership, and use of firearms; a ban on handguns and semiautomatic assault weapons; and expanded regulations of handguns for civilian use. In addition, this statement reviews recent data, trends, prevention, and intervention strategies of the past 5 years. .........................................................

  THE SECOND AMENDMENT ISSUES

Several legal reviews emphasize that the Second Amendment does not protect an individual's gun ownership. Two cases, Presser v Illinois and United States v Miller, have established the meaning of the Second Amendment.^59,60 These and later federal court rulings have indicated that the "right" to bear arms is linked to the preservation of state militias and is not intended to provide for an individual's right to own a firearm. The federal government could ban whole categories of firearms, such as handguns and assault weapons.^60,61

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Looks like seeing an AAP shingle on your physician's wall is a contraindicator for business with that office!

[Frangibled]

I believe the doctor overstepped. It isn’t his place to demand to know whether or not parents have weapons in the home. Does he ask if household chemicals, alcohol, knives, candles, scissors, and medicines are locked up? Does he ask if the kids have appropriate car seats and does he do personal inspections? He thinks of himself as Big Brother with a medical degree.

Following through with his thinking, parents should have the right to demand he take drug tests, mental evaluations, etc., to prove he is, at all times, capable of providing excellent care to his patients.

All that said, he will fit right in with ObamaCare, won’t he?

[Apple Blossom]

Sadly Carley, your comment is correct. I’m sure someone in office passed some piece of legislation that has involved the American Academy of Pediatrics in finding out about things that have nothing to do with the health of children.

[perchprism]

Just who does this a-hole doctor think he’s kidding when he says he only wanted to give advice? If that were truly the case, he could simply have remarked, “If you own a gun, my advice is to keep it locked up”.

Instead he needed to be a petty tyrant and “punish” this patient’s parents who refused to roll over and show their bellies.

[668 - Neighbor of the Beast]

Kids drown in pools...and bathtubs, for that matter. The doctor never asks if you have a pool, or a tub as opposed to a shower.

[kalee]

I recently went to a specialist ob/gyn. I couldn’t believe the questions they asked. Are there guns in your home? Do you feel threatened or are you afraid of anyone?
I said my husband and I are happily married, have been for many years and that I found their questions threatening and intrusive but I was not afraid. So would you please just treat my medical condition and don’t harass me about things that are not your business. The nurse looked quite taken aback, but the doctor saw me and I am in treatment.

This line of questioning once came up with pediatricians too. I told my children to answer any such questions with “you will need to talk to my parents about that” The one doctor who asked me I looked straight in the face and asked “do you have any in your home?” Not another word was said on the matter.

[Malone LaVeigh]

Ask him how many lawsuits have been filed against him and how they were resolved. A question that is certainly more pertinent than his.

[SWAMPSNIPER]

My daughter knew from an early age and so did my grandson, some things are family matters and none of anyone else’s business.