Dear Glenn Beck: Confederate Constitution mentions the word slavery ONE time.

Confederate Constitution ^ | 6/25/10 | Central_VA

[central_va]

Open Message to Mr. Beck (self proclaimed historian). Tonight on your TV show you said that you read the Confederate Constitution and I paraphrase "it had slavery written all over it, all about slavery blah blah blah". You are incorrect sir, I did a word search on the document and the word slavery appears "one" time. Everyone can try it for themselves at the link provided below.

CS Constitution

Can never trust a Yankee, even a goofy entertaining one.

[central_va]

The word slavery appears only in VA, AL and TX ordinances of secession.

Ordinances of Secession

The ordinances of secession were the actual legal language by which the seceded states severed their connection with the Federal Union. The declarations of causes, given elsewhere on this Web site, are where they tended to disclose their reasons for doing so, although only four states issued separate declarations of causes.

The political theory of the time among secessionists required that the act of secession be carried out by a specially elected convention or by referendum. In this sense the "secessions" of both Missouri and Kentucky were flawed, as neither was carried out in this manner. The Missouri secession ordinance was passed by a rump legislature and never approved by the people at large. The Kentucky secession ordinance was adopted by a convention of 200 participants representing 65 counties, held in Russellville.

These are offered in chronological order. If the state convention passed a declaration of causes document, then the header for that ordinance provides a link back to that document.

* South Carolina * Mississippi * Florida * Alabama * Georgia * Louisiana * Texas * Virginia * Arkansas * North Carolina * Tennessee * Missouri * Kentucky

[Non-Sequitur]

So, I guess your motto is ‘Lincoln’s fault’?

Abraham Lincoln: For when it happened too long ago to blame on George Bush.

[central_va]

So, I guess your motto is ‘Lincoln’s fault’?

I prefer to call the man the Illinois Butcher.

[Non-Sequitur]

I thought it was over the route of the trans-continental railroad! /s

Nah. It wuz da tariffs! </sarcasm>

[kbennkc]

Yeah , the South wanted nothing to do with slavery and it would have ended a lot sooner if not for the Yankees or something ./sarc

[Non-Sequitur]

I prefer to call the man the Illinois Butcher.

You forgot to add your little trademark thingie.

[drew]

I think this spells it out pretty clearly:

"Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition."
– Vice President of the Confederacy, Alexander Hamilton Stephens.

[central_va]

You forgot to add your little trademark thingie.

Whoops!

Illinois Butcher™ Over 600,000 served.

[patriot preacher]

Glenn Beck’s purpose tonight was to inform about African-American history in the founding and formative years of our Republic. It is indeed a topic which is OFTEN underplayed because it suits the purpose of the powers that be.

HOWEVER, sometimes, Beck, in his zeal to present his particular case, runs roughshod over some facts and totally MISSES or misrepresents others. Such is apparently the case with his reference to the Confederate Constitution tonight (I have DVR’ed tonights Founders program, but haven’t viewed it yet).

It is worth NOTING then, that the Confederate States Constitution was indeed almost IDENTICAL to the United States Constitution, with only about a half dozen changes that strengthened States rights, altered the presidential term of service to ONE of 6 years (sounds like a GREAT idea to me), and protected private property rights more strongly. “Slavery” was indeed ONLY mentioned only ONCE in the CSA Constitution — and the importation of new slaves from foreign lands was expressly forbidden — that was MOSTLY because the importation of slaves was primarily an industry run by NORTHERN or foreign shipping corporations well into the 1800’s.

I don’t think Mr. Beck can be condemned for his zeal. I rather like and an THANKFUL for his work overall. But when he makes an error of this nature, he should be challenged on it. To appeal to African-Americans and their rightful and important place in AMerican history does NOT mean that the South, the Confederacy and EVERY principle for which they stood should be condemned. And Beck knows better than that, if he’ll think about it...

So everyone take a deep breath — some of us who ARE responsible and knowledgable Southern Historians will just have to get in touch with Glenn and “educate” him further about his errant statements....

[ExTxMarine]

“Can’t even trust Beck.....”

I am not sure if you were completely listening. Beck said that he was looking at the original document. The actual scrolled, originally signed Confederate Constitution. Even the gentleman with him, who happens to have done extensive research including seeing the original, also agreed that was the title of the actual document.

While you are using a typed, computer generated and marked up version - to show the differences between it and the US Constitution - to argue your point!

Also it just proves the point which his guest made, this is one of the times where the losers of the war were able to write their own history - it doesn’t always exactly jive with reality!

In Japan, they don’t say they decided to surrender due to the atomic bombs, it was because the Emperor did not want to continue the fight and sacrifice anymore Japanese lives! Lying by omission is still lying!

[central_va]

My first impulse would be to free all the slaves, and send them to Liberia,—to their own native land. But a moment’s reflection would convince me that whatever of high hope (as I think there is) there may be in this, in the long run, its sudden execution is impossible.[13

             -- Abe Lincoln The Great Emancipator

[TomServo]

Can't even trust Beck.....

Beck is a clown...

[marron]

http://americancivilwar.com/documents/causes_south_carolina.html

http://americancivilwar.com/documents/causes_mississippi.html

http://americancivilwar.com/documents/causes_georgia.html

http://americancivilwar.com/documents/causes_texas.html

[central_va]

I don’t think Mr. Beck can be condemned for his zeal. I rather like and an THANKFUL for his work overall. But when he makes an error of this nature, he should be challenged on it.

I agree, hence this thread.

[dayglored]

> I think this spells it out pretty clearly:

Got a link for that quote? I'd like to read it in its entirety. Sounds interesting.

[Tucsonican]

Are you sure that you did a word search in english?

Have you ever read the document to which you refer?

Try reading Article 1, section 9.

Try reading Article 4, section 2.

Here's some of the text from Article 4, section 3

The Confederate States may acquire new territory, and Congress shall have power to legislate and provide governments for the inhabitants of all territory belonging to the Confederate States lying without the limits of the several States, and may permit them, at such times and in such manner as it may by law provide, to form States to be admitted into the Confederacy. In all such territory the institution of negro slavery as it now exists in the Confederate States shall be recognized and protected by Congress and by the territorial government, and the inhabitants of the several Confederate States and territories shall have the right to take to such territory any slaves lawfully held by them in any of the States or Territories of the Confederate States.

I'd have to say that Mr. Beck, if he was off at all in his assessment, wasn't off by much.

[muawiyah]

Arkansas is a bit of problem no matter how you discuss the matter. They ended up with two capital cities, two legislatures, two governors, and all sorts of other interesting situations.

Remember the Whitewater scandal? I got to digging into things and discovered that the Jayhawk War had already been played out before the Kansas/Nebraska problem, and Marion County in the far North along the Missouri state line had a countyseat named Yellville, exactly the same as Marion County, Indiana (before Indianapolis was founded). The area was settled by people from Indiana interested in keeping slavery out of what would otherwise be an integral part of the Bean Belt!

The pattern was repeated all over the state with various settlements made as part of political colonization activity by people in pro- or anti-slavery states or regions in the Eastern United States.

[DCrockett53]

Um.... Some form of the word slavery appears 10 times in the link you provided... Count or read much?

[central_va]

"We know that some Southern men do free their slaves, go North and become tip-top abolitionists, while some Northern Men go South and become most cruel masters.

When Southern people tell us that they are no more responsible for the origin of slavery than we are, I acknowledge the fact. When it is said the institution exists, and it is very difficult to get rid of in any satisfactory way, I can understand and appreciate the saying. I surely will not blame them for not doing what I should not know what to do as to the existing institution. My first impulse would possibly be to free all slaves and send them to Liberia to their own native land. But a moment's reflection would convince me that this would not be best for them. If they were all landed there in a day they would all perish in the next ten days, and there is not surplus money enough to carry them there in many times ten days. What then? Free them all and keep them among us as underlings. Is it quite certain that this would alter their conditions? Free them and make them politically and socially our equals? My own feelings will not admit of this, and if mine would, we well know that those of the great mass of whites will not. We cannot make them our equals. A system of gradual emancipation might well be adopted, and I will not undertake to judge our Southern friends for tardiness in this matter."

   -- Abraham Lincoln in speeches at Peoria, Illinois

[jdege]

I count the word "slavery" only once, where it declares that "the institution of Negro slavery" will always be recognized and protected in every state territory, in perpetuity. Which is quite a mention, now that you mention it.

Of course, "slave" appears twice, and "slaves" appears six times.

Little things like:
"No law denying or impairing the right of property in negro slaves, shall be passed."
And "The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States, and shall have the right of transit and sojourn in any State of this Confederacy, with their slaves and other property; and the right of property in such slaves shall not be impaired."
And "No slave or Person held to Service or Labour in [one State] any State or Territory of the Confederate Slates under the Laws thereof, escaping or unlawfully carried into another, shall, in Consequence of any Law or Regulation therein, be discharged from such Service or Labour, but shall be delivered up on Claim of the Party to whom such slave belongs, or to whom such Service or Labour may be due."

The stink of slavery does permeate the document, just as Beck claimed.