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Abby is the Litmus Test

Posted on 06/12/2010 9:51:14 AM PDT by Talisker

I've found the slander and contempt expressed on Free Republic towards Abby Sunderland and her parents quite interesting. Of course, we're all supposed to believe that every post on FR is independently made, but these hate posts have been too interlocked in similiarly bizarre content for me to believe that.

Basically the hateful screeds boil down to Abby being a child instead of a young woman, unable to understand the danger of her trip, put at risk by fame seeking parents, to do something with no socially approved redeeming value, which ended in abject failure due to Abby's incompetence, and for which CPS should be called in to have Abby pulled from the family for re-education, while the parents are jailed, fined, and billed for the rescue efforts.

In short, an absolutely damning, completely collectivist viewpoint with zero acknowledgement of independent rights, which is based solely on collectivist evaluation, collectivist judgment, and collectivist punishment - fronted as family values and child protection.

Oh yeah, and also a complete and utter lie.

For there were many expert sailors as advisors behind this trip, all of whom signed off on both Abby's abilities, her equipment and her trip plan. And there was never any hint of her family not being willing to pay for any part of the rescue efforts. Entire ships have been destroyed through rogue waves, but there's no acknowledgement of that universal danger. And Abby performed beautifully as a sailor and as an adult, through storms, equipment failures, and difficulties across thousands of miles of sailing, and a crisis situation which would have had all of these naysayers pissing their pants.

But pants pissing is the point here - the very big point. Because Abby threatens the millions of families who base their concept of child rearing on the idea that childhood, literally, never ends. That children must be driven everywhere and monitored constantly, even as teenagers. That they need psych meds for growing pains. That responsibility is an injustice towards them, because they can't be allowed to develop any personal power that is not first approved by the mommy educational collective.

So pants pissing has become noble. It has become the sign of respect towards the community, of good parenting, and of normal childhood - the childhood that never ends. In fact, pants-pissing has become the litmus test of social approval itself, because it enables the protection of neurotic helicopter parents who see bogeymen under every bush so that they can justify an obsession about their children's safety that allows THEM to never grow up.

And guess which political party they ALL belong to, and HOPE to never CHANGE from?

So to them, now - now - "we" have this tiny little thumb-sucking girl child, only 16 years old and so barely out of diapers, being thrown into the ocean by greedy parents, straight into a hurricane to drown for their greed, with absolutely no approval from any group of safety parent educators or state approved parental control boards!

Do you realize what this could do to the carefully created psychological voting blocks of the pants pissers? Especially when that so-called "mom" from Alaska with the big family that hunts and fishes and camps and snow machines is running around actually threatening to run for high office?

Do you see the connection here? If Abby is praised and acknowledged for her courage and maturity, and for living life instead of just conforming to it, and especially - especially - for her individuality, her acceptance of personal risk and responsibility without the approval of the collective, people might start to remember what it means to be an American again! They might start to remember freedom, and risk for the sake of living life to the fullest, and learning through doing, and the value of learning courage in the face of difficulty, and they might start to discover their self-respect again, and build character.

And how would that effect the pants-pissing moms who scuttle through life at the end of the snapping fingers of feminist, communist, education-collective politicians? How would that effect their views of the locked-down, cop-patrolled, drug-infected, psych-medicated, fenced prison hellholes of morale-crushing subservience called public schools? How would that effect the ability of these politicians to convince these collectively-approved, latte-sucking "moms" to continue to destroy their children - by never letting them grow up - in the name of "safety"?

And above all, how would that effect the votes?

No, no, no, no, no. Call out the shills, invade the Net, and even get on Free Republic and in the name of God, parenting, sin, ego, vanity, stupidity and every other communist-studied conservative trigger-word, invoke cowardice in the name of responsibility, rip away adulthood with the insult of enforced childhood, hammer on cost without mentioning no resistance to payment, and above all sneer at parenting that is based of building courage and trust and adventure as an absolutely unforgivable violation of the sacred order of socially approved pants-pissing.

And demand wet pants! Wet pants for social justice! Wet pants for lack of guilt! And especially, wet pants for votes!

After all, it's for the children.

P.S. Congratulations to Abby and her family - you all did great. Abby sailed with competence, courage and joy, and inspired millions of people. If America is to have a future in freedom, she and people like her are the ones who will make it happen. But above all, she and her family made selfish cowards and conniving hypocrites everywhere publicly wet themselves, and for that America is truly grateful.


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To: Cementjungle

“And NASA went to a lot of trouble and expense to bring us a live broadcast from the moon... I enjoyed that one too.”

Abby the asstronot....that will be in season two I think...first the’s going to be a stunt pilot and climb mountains.

So many records to break....so little time to film it for the show...


301 posted on 06/13/2010 8:32:31 PM PDT by Crim (The Obama Doctrine : A doctrine based on complete ignorance,applied with extreme incompitence..)
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To: Talisker
“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan "press on" has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race”.
- Calvin Coolidge (American 30th President of the United States, 1872-1933)

Abby has it in spades.

302 posted on 06/13/2010 8:37:42 PM PDT by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific!)
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To: Theophilus

And a tv deal!..wohoo!


303 posted on 06/13/2010 8:39:52 PM PDT by Crim (The Obama Doctrine : A doctrine based on complete ignorance,applied with extreme incompitence..)
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To: dragnet2

Last I looked, NASCAR pays for their OWN rescue crews. That means the drivers take risks but also take responsibility for their OWN asses.

They don’t expect the Navy to send ‘em a patrol boat.

Total non equivalent to Abby the Attention Whore.


304 posted on 06/13/2010 8:42:44 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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To: Balding_Eagle
The Soviet Union was a good example from the past, Cuba a good example from the present, of the danger government is to the health of children.

I had a friend who grew up in the Soviet Union during the 80's I asked him lots of questions about government repression. He affirmed most of my understandings but I was surprised to learn that every kid in school had extensive paramilitary training with firearms (for civil defense) and that when not in school he and his "cossack friends" roamed the countryside on horseback without restriction. Can you imagine every American kid learning marksmanship and gun care with a 7.62 rifle, grenade throwing, land navigation and PT on a military obstacle course with concertina wire? His dad was a scientist and was in the Communist Party but they listened to Western radio and music all the time and vigorously participated in black markets. The Soviet Union, it seems, was restrained in is totalitarian ambitions by economics and bureaucratic lethargy. One of the national pass-times of the Soviet Union was making fun of the government/system.

305 posted on 06/13/2010 8:59:47 PM PDT by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific!)
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To: Crim
My family and I would watch it and be inspired! I find the whole Sunderland family very interesting and appealing. They are exceptional.

3:49: "I'd rather sail around the world than get my driver's license."

306 posted on 06/13/2010 9:07:13 PM PDT by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific!)
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To: Charlespg

Hmmm... Why won’t you answer the question? Could it be that you don’t like your answer?


307 posted on 06/13/2010 9:08:39 PM PDT by Redcloak (What's your zombie plan?)
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To: Theophilus

“My family and I would watch it and be inspired! I find the whole Sunderland family very interesting and appealing. They are exceptional.”

Some people will say anything to save face I guess...


308 posted on 06/13/2010 9:18:34 PM PDT by Crim (The Obama Doctrine : A doctrine based on complete ignorance,applied with extreme incompitence..)
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To: Theophilus

“One of the national pass-times of the Soviet Union was making fun of the government/system.”

And killing a few million people...


309 posted on 06/13/2010 9:25:01 PM PDT by Crim (The Obama Doctrine : A doctrine based on complete ignorance,applied with extreme incompitence..)
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To: Nervous Tick
Total non equivalent to Abby the Attention Whore.

lol...You people are hysterically funny...

Tell ya what tick, if it'll make ya feel better, start a anti Abby protest group...Demand investigations....lol

310 posted on 06/13/2010 10:56:43 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Crim
The whole thing is a publicity stunt that went wrong.

There wasn't going to be any publicity. The Sunderland's may have wanted

but Abby would have pulled into Marina Del Ray to her family, a few friends, a local TV newstaper, the reporter from the local paper, a couple of bystanders and a dog.

311 posted on 06/14/2010 12:13:19 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (a 16 year old Australian girl already did it. And she did it right.)
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To: Nervous Tick
Yep. Ego Gratification.

Why does anyone enter a race around the world, even if it is a race against your own age? I recall several circumnavigating races that required rescue of one or more participants. Look at the results of the last decade of Vendee Globe races:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vend%C3%A9e_Globe

What is complaint? That she is too young? She logged more offshore miles that a lot of sailors. Plenty of these racing sailors get dismasted and have to be rescued. She was about 230nm from Ile Amsterdam, she probably could have motored there in a pinch or rigged a jury mast.

312 posted on 06/14/2010 12:18:33 AM PDT by Dan Cooper
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To: Redcloak
Hmmm... Why won’t you answer the question? Could it be that you don’t like your answer?

No is a 16 year old kid and her rescuers drowning in the Indian ocean the answer ?

But if you think it ok for parents to send their 16 year old kid out on some dammed fool PR stunt and put her life at risk as well as risk the lives of those who might have to go rescue her,then you got some loose screws and would probably be more happy at Dummies Unlimited

I said before that one day a stunt like this is going to end in tragedy with a notable loss of life all round and if that makes a group of self absorbed trolls unhappy to point this out then so be it

I have more important thing to do with my life then argue with you or the other idiots who support this kind of grandstanding crap

so as a another freeper said "goodday"

313 posted on 06/14/2010 12:31:47 AM PDT by Charlespg
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To: Crim

Why don’t you take a deep breath and read through your posts about Abby and her family? A bit over the top don’t you agree?


314 posted on 06/14/2010 12:40:12 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: dragnet2

>> You people are hysterically funny...

And “you people” are pathologically stupid.


315 posted on 06/14/2010 4:18:55 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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To: Dan Cooper

Like so many others, you’re missing the point.

Some on this thread would attribute *godlike* qualities of heroism and character perfection to Abby. Why, EVERYONE ought to emulate Abby, and furthermore, if you don’t, then you’re not even a conservative!

I’m disagreeing with that blarney and emphasizing that it’s just ego gratification — plain and simple. She’s an attention whore. Nothing more or less base than that.

And, if you want to gratify your ego by racing something, have at it! Just don’t expect me and other taxpayers and innocents to risk their lives to bail you out when you screw up. And then plan to make a teevee show and write a book and make a pile of dough and plan to never compensate your rescuers a nickel — like attention whore Abby and her family.


316 posted on 06/14/2010 4:25:21 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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To: Nervous Tick

LOL!


317 posted on 06/14/2010 8:50:08 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Nervous Tick
I agree that to some extent it is ego gratification. That is an aspect of every sport. There is also the aspect of meeting a personal challenge, to see what you are made of and what you can accomplish. Sailing around the world alone is not an act of heroism, but it is a huge challenge. Sunderland experienced a knockdown after rounding Cape Horn so she knew how rough it could get. If she wasn't really ready for that type of sailing, she could have quit at Cape Town. Not knowing her personally, I would hazard that she is pretty brave and tenacious. Those are not unknown qualities in many young people today. While I wouldn't say that everyone must emulate those qualities, trying to suppress them when they are present is wrong.

As far as the financial angle goes, that's free enterprise. If she writes a book, makes a movie, or goes on Television, you are free to buy or not, watch or not, just like everyone.

Let me just say, as a taxpayer, screw the taxpayer. If everyone is limited to action that may not harm the taxpayer, we are finished as a society. That is what is evil about the Socialist Health Care program. Soon you will be told what you can and cannot do because it is costing the taxpayer for your health care. Won't that be wonderful. Busybodies will report you if you are seen smoking or drinking too much. Anyway, I doubt that anyone here has been touched for a single dime due to Sunderland's voyage. On the other hand, you have lately contributed your tax dollars to another 400 million for Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza, a very deserving bunch of people I'm sure.

BTW, Search and rescue units pluck people off of mountains all the time. Those S&R members sign up to do the job because they enjoy it. People on the oceans help each other out when they are in trouble because they know that the situation could be easily be reversed. They probably find it gratifying to rescue someone in need. I know I would.

318 posted on 06/14/2010 8:58:11 AM PDT by Dan Cooper
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To: Charlespg

I agree that a 16-year old probably isn’t able to such important decisions. Some may be able to, but by law, we assume that a 16-year old is still a child and still needs an adult’s supervision. My simple question to you is who that adult should be in the case of your child: You or Obama?


319 posted on 06/14/2010 9:19:09 AM PDT by Redcloak (What's your zombie plan?)
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To: Cementjungle
And NASA went to a lot of trouble and expense to bring us a live broadcast from the moon... I enjoyed that one too.

Google "Neil Armstrong" to see how a real hero behaves. (Hint: TV cameras in the Armstrong residence are not part of it.)

320 posted on 06/14/2010 10:20:32 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (I've been ionized, but I'm okay now.)
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