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Noah’s Ark nestled on Mount Ararat
The Peninsula - Qatar's Leading English Daily ^ | January 19th, 2008 | SATISH KANADY

Posted on 05/04/2010 3:52:00 PM PDT by FootBall

Dogubayazit (Turkey’s Iran-Armenian Border) • For the first time in the seven decade-long history of the search for the legendary Noah’s Ark, a Turkish-Hong Kong exploration team on Tuesday came out with “material evidence”, to prove that the Ark was nestled on Mount Ararat, Turkey’s highest mountain peak bordering Iran and Armenia.

A panel of experts, comprising Turkish authorities, veteran mountaineers, archaeologists, geologists and members of Hong Kong-based Noah’s Ark Ministries International, also displayed an almost one-metre-long peice of petrified wood before the media and specially invited international experts.

The experts claimed it to be a part of a long structure they had unearthed during their February-August 2007 exploration. “It is for the first time in the history of the Ark search that an exploration team is getting a material evidence and graphic documentation. This makes it not only a the significant breakthrough in the Ark-search, but one that is supported with the most substantial evidence in recent history,” the panel said.

The revelation is expected to open up a fresh chapter in the ongoing debates in the scientific community on the search for Noah’s Ark.

Narrating the genesis of their exploration on Mount Ararat, the mount which has a direct reference in Holy Quran (Mount Judi) and Bible, the panel said the search team had made several foiled attempts before unearthing the evidence at an altitude of 4,500-metres of the estimated 5,165 metre volcanic mountain.

“The structure was discovered in the interiors of an unusual cave. The 11.5m wide and 2.6m high white wooden texture was revealed after removing thick layers of volcanic ash on the cave wall,” panel members said at a press conference.

One of the underlying issues in the search for the Ark is the proper identification of its wood fragments. A petrographic examination carried out by the Applied Geoscience Centre of the Department of Earth Sciences, University of Hong Kong, identified the object as a petrified wooden structure, the panel said.

“Some of the big holes found on the structure indicate the locations where branches used to grow on tree. In places, original holes are partly or completely replaced by individual minerals and crystalline materials that can be found in rock materials,” said Dr Ahmet Ozbek, a panel member, who is also a faculty of Geology Engineering Kahramanmara Suctcu Imam University.

Dismissing the possibilities of the structure being wood that could appear naturally around the discovery site, Professor Oktay Belli, director, Eurasian Archaeology Institute, University of Istanbul, said researches have proved that there was no vegetation on Mount Ararat ever since 2000BC, because of the asperities of Ararat’s climate.

Talking to The Peninsula, Cemalettin Demircioglu, Dogubayazit City Governor, under whose jurisdiction the mount is located, said the civic body will invite more international experts to conduct further scientific studies on Mount Ararat.

“History has more than one times corroborated the legendary evidence that the ark was nestled on Mount Ararat. We will introduce the latest findings to the world and continue the scientific study. All interested scientists and NGOs can join our missions” he said. However, he said, those who are involved in the project must ensure the findings are not used politically, religiously, or for any vested interest.

Located in the Far Eastern Turkey, Ararat is great prize for mountain collectors. Ark sighting has often been reported from this mountain. The observation of Vessel-shaped features in aerial photograph of Ararat had caused a stir in the late 1950’s. However, this is the first time an exploration team is coming out with “material evidence”.


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This is what "Noah's Ark Ministries International" came down from the mountain with on Tuesday, January 15th, 2008
1 posted on 05/04/2010 3:52:00 PM PDT by FootBall
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To: FootBall
ELVIS !!!!!
2 posted on 05/04/2010 3:53:01 PM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: FootBall

Noah’s Ark find claim a hoax...

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/04/30/noahs-ark-hoax-claim-doesnt-deter-believers/?test=latestnews


3 posted on 05/04/2010 3:56:49 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: beebuster2000

Jesus just left Chicago and he’s bound for New Orleans.


4 posted on 05/04/2010 3:58:02 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: SunkenCiv

Yet another on the Ark. It’s true! A Qatar newspaper says so.


5 posted on 05/04/2010 3:59:30 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Agreed...

Scholarly Squad Debunks Biblical 'Discoveries'

6 posted on 05/04/2010 4:00:04 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: FootBall
My sister knows one of the Archaeologist that has been on the expedition. He has been there a couple of times and has seen the same thing in person we are now seeing in video and pictures. He and his wife has stayed over night at her house when he was in the area speaking at area Churches about the ARK exploration. He is convinced beyond a doubt that this is the real deal, and so am I.
7 posted on 05/04/2010 4:04:57 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: FootBall

With todays technology, you would think they could snap a picture or 2, huh? Yeah, in other words, I’m not buying the crap they are selling.


8 posted on 05/04/2010 4:05:52 PM PDT by vpintheak (Love of God, Family and Country has made me an extremist.)
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To: cripplecreek
Jesus just left Chicago and he’s bound for New Orleans.

He arrived in NO yesterday.

9 posted on 05/04/2010 4:06:33 PM PDT by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: FootBall

I get confused: is it Noah’s Ark, the cure for cancer, or the way to make cheap solar energy cells they find more often?


10 posted on 05/04/2010 4:08:19 PM PDT by Grut
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To: ColdWater

And Muddy Water turned to wine.


11 posted on 05/04/2010 4:11:56 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: NavyCanDo; Quix; TaraP
You were saying ...

My sister knows one of the Archaeologist that has been on the expedition. He has been there a couple of times and has seen the same thing in person we are now seeing in video and pictures. He and his wife has stayed over night at her house when he was in the area speaking at area Churches about the ARK exploration. He is convinced beyond a doubt that this is the real deal, and so am I.

Another very reliable and respected expert (a Christian, but also an expert in his field), who has been up there (on the expedition before) with this group and has had prior experience with the guide -- has gone on record saying that he doesn't believe that it's real and that he has questions about this guide and how he's restricting access to the area and would not allow this expert (the one speaking about it) to examine things or even go on this expedition, even though they were there on the mountain at the same time.

He says it's very suspicious... and he wouldn't trust it.

So, from even a Christian perspective, it's not a good idea to "throw in" with this particular expedition, as they may have been "bamboozled"... :-)

12 posted on 05/04/2010 4:12:57 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: NavyCanDo

One more thing ... I wanted to also make clear that I have no doubt about there having been a Noah’s Ark, exactly as the Bible describes it and this other expert has no doubt either. He has also been on expedition searching for it, but he’s fairly well convinced that “this” — is not the real thing ... (not that the Bible’s account is not the real thing, which he [and I] believe fully ...).


13 posted on 05/04/2010 4:14:46 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Constitution Day
I haven't seen evidence pro or con about this recent discovery, but reading that article makes me pretty skeptical of the author and his organization's motives.

One example:

"Now, whenever a suspect archaeological discovery hits the headlines, the committee and its associated scholars churn into action -- reaching out to journalists, writing blog posts, sending out Twitter and Facebook alerts, and dispatching op-eds to newspapers and magazines"

I don't see anything in that about examining the evidence. It sounds like they are operating from a position that any evidence is prima facie fabricated and it is beneath them to consider any discovery not from a legitimate source.

Further, "All this, Cline says, makes the lives of real scholars more challenging. "The gullible believers and evangelicals, along with other faiths, throw money at these expeditions not knowing whether they're going to produce anything," he says. "Every year we have to scrounge for money to run a real excavation that may shed some real light." "

A) I find it unlikely that evangelicals supporting biblical archeology would be sending that money to other non-biblical archeolgical digs - so none of their funding is likely affected.

B) Seeing as above, they find biblical archeology to be a waste of time, why would anyone currently supporting biblical archeology bother to put these "scholars" "in the loop"?

I'm 100% behind exposing frauds, especially if they are out to make money from believers, but I'm not sure these "scholars" are as interested in preventing fraud as they are in protecting their turf. Nothing wrong with that either, I'd just prefer they drop the faux aura of noble intent.
14 posted on 05/04/2010 4:16:15 PM PDT by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: NavyCanDo; Quix; TaraP; FootBall; beebuster2000; The Magical Mischief Tour; cripplecreek; ...
Here is an interview from this expert on this expedition and why it's most likely a "hoax" ...

May 1, 2010 - Hour 1

Eric Barger sits in for Jan who needed a weekend off. His guest is Dr. Randall Price who addresses the alleged recent finding of "Noah's Ark." Why is this likely bogus? Will it ever be found? Price has upcoming expeditions planned for Mt. Ararat and has made numerous attempts to find the Ark which have all failed to date. He feels he is close, however, to an amazing discovery. Would this be an end-time sign that the Bible is accurate? Remember, the "last days" are compared to the days of Noah. Find the spring conference CDs and DVDs Eric referred to here. They will be ready to ship in about two weeks. We also carry several of Barger's products in our "store." www.ericbarger.com -- www.worldofthebible.com

I would pay attention to this guy as he's been there, has been associated with that very same group, and also has been associated with that very same guide, whom he thinks is perpetrating a hoax, apparently ...

15 posted on 05/04/2010 4:22:10 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: FootBall

“displayed an almost one-metre-long peice of petrified wood before the media and specially invited international experts. . . “

Does wood petrify in 6,000 years? I think it takes a LOT longer than that.


16 posted on 05/04/2010 4:29:51 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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Noah's Ark links (recently here on Free Republic, including this thread) ...

Noah and the Missing Link

Noah’s Ark nestled on Mount Ararat

Noah’s Ark PaleoBabble Update (hoax?)

Evangelists claim Noahs Ark Found

Evangelical Explorers Claim To Have Found Noah's Ark


17 posted on 05/04/2010 4:31:47 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: ModelBreaker; FootBall
You were saying ...

Does wood petrify in 6,000 years? I think it takes a LOT longer than that.

This is not necessarily in support of this article... but just for some "info" on the subject.... yes, you can petrify wood in a short amount of time under the right conditions and those conditions have been found to have taken place in nature... not only the lab.

But, in the lab, you can apparently petrify wood in a very short time (can't remember exactly how long right now, but I'm going to say in about an hour, or, at the very least, in no longer than one day).

18 posted on 05/04/2010 4:34:20 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: FootBall
Not that not finding Noah's ark proves anything, but ...

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/04/latest_ark_finding_is_a_fake.php

19 posted on 05/04/2010 4:34:26 PM PDT by Salman
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To: Star Traveler
This isn't the only trip up to Mt Ararat. Some people have found something and some have not. Price sounds like sour grapes and wants $100,000. Many groups have gone up as far back as the crusades. It is muslem territory now and few are allowed in and some are robbed by bands of rebels so they don't make it. It will probably take years to see just what they have found. There is something there we just have to wait to find out just what.
20 posted on 05/04/2010 4:35:13 PM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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