Environmentalist Blame Sun for Global Warming

Charlie Chatter ^

[Comedylover]

A group of environmental scientists and the United Nations has discovered the sun is causing much of the global warming we experience today. “We’ve suspected this for some time,” said IPCC regular contributor Gordy Columbo. “But there was no way to prove it. Now we can.”

The scientists checked the temperature of the atmosphere in the daylight, when the sun was shining, and at night, when the sun was not. Amazingly, they found the daylight temperatures to be much warmer.

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The Center for Sun-Climate Research at the DNSC (Danish National Space Center) investigates the connection between variations in the intensity of cosmic rays and climatic changes on Earth. This field of research has been given the name 'cosmoclimatology'"..."Cosmic ray intensities – and therefore cloudiness – keep changing because the Sun's magnetic field varies in its ability to repel cosmic rays coming from the Galaxy, before they can reach the Earth." :
http://www.spacecenter.dk/research/sun-climate
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Climate debate and FAQ:

What is climate research at the DNSC? [Danish National Space Center]

The Earth’s climate is always changing. This has been the case in the geological and historical time and even during the last 150 years, where systematic climate measurements have been made, we have seen clear climate changes.

Climate changes have both a scientific and a social perspective. The social perspective is associated with the range of climate change that can be attributed to the increasing human induced contribution. The scientific perspective is an endeavour to understand the full complex system of the various sources of climate change and their mutual interactions.

The Danish National Space Center, DNSC, comprises the country's largest collected expertise in the scientific disciplines that play a major and documented role in the understanding of climate change both in geological and historical time, namely variations in solar activity. DNSC regards it essential that this collected expertise is being used in an attempt to understand the natural causes of climate change in order to evaluate the contribution of natural causes to global change. Taking into account the large uncertainty associated with the estimated human contribution, a good research based estimate of the range of natural climate variations is an essential information.

DNSC is basing its effort in this area on own scientific results – observational, experimental, and theoretical. The scientific results have been published internationally and indicate that the varying activity of the Sun is indeed the largest and most systematic contributor to natural climate variations. The effect goes through solar modulation of the cosmic radiation, which affects the formation of aerosols and thereby also the formation of clouds. Even though a physical mechanism connecting cosmic rays to aerosol formation has been found experimentally, no climate model has yet made an attempt to include such an effect.

That there exists a significant contribution from solar activity variations to global temperature increase does not, however, exclude other contributions to the rising global temperature, natural as well as human. DNSC, however, is focused on establishing the best possible and scientifically based evaluation of the size of solar induced effects on climate.

Why is the climate changing?

Climate is subject to influences by both natural and human forces, including greenhouse gases, aerosols, solar activity, and land use change. The climate system is extremely complex and any estimate of the human contribution to climate change is very uncertain.

What are the natural causes to climate change?

Changes in the Sun contribute to climate change. Solar activity has been exceptionally high in the 20th century compared to the last 400 years and possibly compared to the past 8,000 years. When solar activity is high, the flux of galactic cosmic rays is reduced due to increased magnetic shielding by the Sun. The cosmic rays may influence Earths climate through formation of low lying clouds.

How can cosmic rays influence cloud formation?

Cosmic rays ionize the atmosphere and an experiment performed at the Danish National Space Center has found that the production of aerosols in a sample atmosphere with condensable gases (such as sulphuric acid and water vapor) depends on the amount of ionization. Since aerosols work as precursors for formation of cloud droplets, this is an indication that cosmic rays affect climate.

Climate models only include the effects of the small variations in the direct solar radiation (infrared, visible and UV). The effects of cosmic rays on clouds are not included in models and the models do a rather poor job of simulating clouds in the present climate. Since cloud feedbacks are a large source of uncertainty, this is a reason for concern when viewing climate model predictions.

http://www.spacecenter.dk/research/sun-climate/climate-debate-and-faq
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Here's an excellent ~new book out on the subject titled "The Chilling Stars, 2nd Edition: A Cosmic View of Climate Change". It's written by one of the top scientists advancing the theory (Henrik Svensmark, of the above mentioned Danish National Space Center/DNSC).

"The authors explain their theory that sub-atomic particles from exploded stars have more effect on the climate than manmade CO2."
http://www.sciencedaily.com/books/t/1840468157-the_chilling_stars_the_new_theory_of_climate_change.htm

Amazon Books: "The Chilling Stars, 2nd Edition: A Cosmic View of Climate Change"
http://www.amazon.com/Chilling-Stars-2nd-Cosmic-Climate/dp/1840468661 zs90]

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So dirt-brains like algore are actually wishing for AN ICE AGE?

100,000-Year Climate Pattern Linked To Sun's Magnetic Cycles:

ScienceDaily (Jun. 7, 2002) HANOVER, N.H.
Thanks to new calculations by a Dartmouth geochemist, scientists are now looking at the earth's climate history in a new light. Mukul Sharma, Assistant Professor of Earth Sciences at Dartmouth, examined existing sets of geophysical data and noticed something remarkable: the sun's magnetic activity is varying in 100,000-year cycles, a much longer time span than previously thought, and this solar activity, in turn, may likely cause the 100,000-year climate cycles on earth. This research helps scientists understand past climate trends and prepare for future ones.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/06/020607073439.htm

[Dr. Bogus Pachysandra]

‘The body of nations will now draft a resolution to force rich countries, mostly the United States, to pay for a study to determine how to best discourage the sun from shining so brightly.
“We must shut it down incrementally” Columbo explained. “And we’re simply running out of time. If we don’t do something now, our children will be forced to deal with the heat that comes from that ball of fire. If there are any children left.”
Reached aboard his spacious jet, souring abovethe rest of the population, Vice President Al Gore said he “knew it played a role. I just wasn’t sure how much. Clearly, man causes more heat than the sun and it’s man’s fault the sun is so hot to begin with.” After a 35 second pause, Gore then went on, “We must stop the sun from shining.”’

Bwaaaahahahaha! Funny article.

[Gene Eric]

Is this satire?

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Is this satire?

Not the pieces I posted.

[Huebolt]

100,000-Year Climate Pattern Linked To Sun's Magnetic Cycles:

I have seen glacier marks (striations) on a hilltop in Jacksboro TEXAS. That's farther south than the picture shown, even.

[babyfreep]

I hoped that some environmentalists had come to their senses.

It would be nice if they'd finally realize the whole thing was created by gov't to instill more control of people.

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I knew it was satire. I just thought it was a good opportunity to relay some facts about the theorized sun-climate connection.

[Dr. Bogus Pachysandra]

Your stuff is always great! I’m sorry, I should have replied to the 1st post and not yours.
Doc

[chipper dave]

“We’ve suspected this for some time,”

Are all of these guys a few bricks short of a full load?

[Dr. Bogus Pachysandra]

Have you seen this?
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/03/23/brains-brains/#comment-351148

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I have seen glacier marks (striations) on a hilltop in Jacksboro TEXAS. That's farther south than the picture shown, even.

Are you sure they're glacial striations? Have they been officially identified as such? In any event, there have been periods when the entire globe was covered in ice, the last one being about 700 or so million years ago. However, it's not very likely that glacial striations would survive that long. Dropstone formations and 'erratic' boulders, yes, but not surface features like glacial striations (scratch marks on the bedrock).

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Thanks. No, I hadn't seen it.

From the article: On the other hand, he added, liberals’ cognitive process allows them to be “open-minded.”

Unfortunately, their minds are opened at both ends! :)

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Thanks for clarifying. And thanks for the nice compliment.

[Leo Farnsworth]

When the sun shines the interior of my SUV gets HOT.

No doubt I should pay higher taxes.

[kevinm13]

These are the geniuses who insist that we use the new curly lightbulbs because they supposedly last longer (NOT! in my experience) and use less electricity (that is because they illuminate less than the regular incandescent bulbs.

The sun causes all global warming, except the heat coming from Algore’s mouth. D’oh!

[Huebolt]

Are you sure they're glacial striations?

Absolutely no doubt. I've seen identical marks in other areas. Some of the rocks in north Texas are extremely old and incredibly hard. Not a lot of rain to erode things, either. I'll see if I can locate additional documentation.

Jacksboro is located at 33°13′24″N 98°09′39″W / 33.223355°N 98.160845°W / 33.223355; -98.160845 (33.223355, -98.160845).[4]

[Huebolt]

(PS) Are you sure they're glacial striations?

It begins to look like "permanent ice sheets" were further north. That wouldn't prevent moving glaciers from extending from them to the south. Now I want to get picture of those marks!

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Some of the rocks in north Texas are extremely old and incredibly hard. Not a lot of rain to erode things, either.

The global glaciation period I spoke of ("SnowBall Earth") occurred somewhere around 700 million years ago. Texas would have been at an entirely different latitude at that time. And climatic conditions there would have likely changed dramatically at various points throughout this long time frame.

I'm not familiar with any more recent ice ages (when Texas was at or near its present position) where ice sheets reached latitudes as low as northern Texas. It is possible that the features you observed were caused by other natural processes, such as preferential erosion of comparatively weak mineral bands within the main bedrock. And this process need not necessarily involve water erosion. Some minerals are relatively unstable in dry climates and break down. Not saying you can't be right, though.

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I wrote my last response before seeing your latest.