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The Slaughter Strategy
National Review Online ^ | March 14, 2010 | Grace-Marie-Turner

Posted on 03/14/2010 7:31:09 AM PDT by raptor22

This week will be the last stand for Obamacare, and the trickery that Speaker Pelosi is concocting to get the 2,700-page Senate bill through the House almost defies belief. It’s aptly called the “Slaughter Strategy,” after Rep. Louise Slaughter (D., N.Y.), who chairs the House Rules Committee.

Under this scheme, House members would vote on a bill of amendments to the despised Senate bill, and the Senate bill would be “deemed” to have passed if this companion bill is approved. This is supposed to inoculate House members, who could say they never actually voted for the Senate bill.

Former Speaker Newt Gingrich has the best line: Last year, the House was passing bills without reading them. This year, they’re passing bills without voting on them.

If you pull out your copy of the U.S. Constitution, you will find that in Article 1, Section 7, it clearly states that the House and Senate have to pass a bill before it is sent to the president to be signed into law.

(Excerpt) Read more at healthcare.nationalreview.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 111th; congress; democrats; fascism; obama; obamacare; palin; slaughter
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To: raptor22; ExTexasRedhead

Don’t forget they can arm twist the RINOS as well as their own.

Defeat Obamacare call list: List now contains the new MAYBES culled from FR posts. Be sure to call KNOWN RINOS too.

KEEP THE CALLS UP! DC OFFICE LOCAL OFFICE

Code Red” - House Target List on Health Care

The National Republican Congressional Committee has published a target list on health care. In addition to continuing to contact the five Tennessee Democrat Congressmen, you can go http://www.votervoice.net/link/clickthrough/ext/94697.aspx to contact some of these targets. Much of the talk following Obama’s announcement has focused on how to defeat this second bill through reconciliation, but that is misleading because the first step to defeating Obamacare is not by concentrating on defeating the “fixer” bill but by defeating the Senate bill in the House when it goes to the floor for an up-or-down vote on Thursday, March 18th.

Rep. Lincoln Davis 202-225-6831 Columbia office: 931-490-8699
Rep. Jim Cooper 202-225-4311 Nashville office: 615-736-5295
Rep. Bart Gordon 202-225-4231 Murfreesboro office: 615-896-1986
John Tanner (202) 225-4714, Union City, (731) 885-7070, Jackson Phone: (731) 423-4848, Millington (901) 873-5690 TN (MAYBE)
Rep. Steve Cohen 202-225-3265 Memphis office: 901-544-4131
Harry Mitchell (202) 225-2190 (480) 946-2411 AZ 5th District
Gabrielle Giffords (202) 225-2542 (520) 881-3588 AZ 8th District
Ann Kirkpatrick (202) 225-2315 (928) 226-6914 AZ 1st District
Jerry McNerney (202) 225-1947 925-833-0643 CA 11th District
John Salazar 202-225-4761 970-245-7107 CO 3rd District
Jim Himes (202) 225-5541 (866) 453-0028 CT 4th District
Alan Grayson (202) 225-2176 (407) 841-1757 FL 8th District
Bill Foster (202) 225-2976 630-406-1114 IL 14th District
Baron Hill 202 225 5315 812 288 3999 IN 9th District
Mark Schauer (202) 225-6276 (517) 780-9075 MI 7th District
Gary Peters (202) 225-5802 (248) 273-4227 MI 9th District
Dina Titus (202) 225-3252 702-256-DINA (3462) NV 3rd District
Carol Shea-Porter (202) 225-5456 (603) 743-4813 NH 1st District
Tim Bishop (202) 225-3826 (631) 696-6500 NY 1st District
John Hall (202) 225-5441 (845) 225-3641 x49371 NY 19th District
Bill Owens (202) 225-4611 (315) 782-3150 NY 23rd District
James Matheson Toll-Free Number 1 (877) 677-9743 (202) 225-3011Mike Arcuri (202)225-3665 (315)793-8146 NY 24th District
Dan Maffei (202) 225-3701 (315) 423-5657 NY 25th District
Earl Pomeroy (202) 225-2611 (701) 224-0355 ND At-Large District
Steven Driehaus (202) 225-2216 (513) 684-2723 OH 1st District
Mary Jo Kilroy (202) 225-2015 (614) 294-2196 OH 15th District
Zach Space (202) 225-6265 (330) 364-4300 OH 18th District
Kathy Dahlkemper (202) 225-5406 (814) 456-2038 PA 3rd District
Patrick Murphy (202) 225-4276 (215) 826-1963 PA 8th District
Christopher Carney (202) 225-3731 (570) 585-9988 PA 10th District
Paul Kanjorski (202) 225-6511 (570) 825-2200 PA 11th District
John Spratt (202) 225-5501 (803)327-1114 SC 5th District
Tom Perriello (202) 225-4711 (276) 656-2291 VA 5th District
Alan Mollohan (202) 225-4172 (304) 623-4422 WVA 1st District
Nick Rahall (202) 225-3452 (304) 252-5000 WVA 3rd District
Steve Kagen (202) 225-5665 (920) 437-1954 WI 8th District
Bart Stupak (202) 225 4735 MI (MAYBE)
Brian Baird (202) 225-3536, Vancouver, (360) 695-6292. Olympia, (360) 352-9768, (MAYBE)
senator mark begich (202) 224-3004 toll free. (877) 501 - 6275 just became a MAYBE
Jason Altmire 202-225-2565, Aliquippa, 724-378-0928,
Natrona Heights, 724-226-1304 (MAYBE)

On the Bubble (Major developments from the “yes” and “no” columns in the House)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2467046/posts

Congressional Dems on Twitter
http://www.arrghpaine.com/congressional-dems-on-twitter

And here are toll-free numbers we can use to call any Senators or Reps.
At the first number below you must wait through a tape recording urging you to tell your Rep or Senator to vote “yes” for the health care bill. Just hang on and when the recording is over, you will get the Capitol operator. Just ask for your Rep or Senator’s office. Then you will either talk to an aid or have the chance to leave a message for him/her to vote NO on the health care bill.

When you use the second number and the Capitol operator comes on, just ask for your Rep or Senator’s office. Every time I use this number I get the Rep or Senator’s answer machine, so it may be set up that way all the time...to go to their answer machine. Either way you can leave a message to vote NO on the health care bill!

We need to use these toll free numbers that have been set up for the health care/ BO supporters and illegals to use! After all they are FREE!
1-800-828-0498
1-866-220-0044 Defeat Obamacare call list: List now contains the new MAYBES culled from FR posts. Be sure to call KNOWN RINOS too.

KEEP THE CALLS UP! DC OFFICE LOCAL OFFICE

Code Red” - House Target List on Health Care

The National Republican Congressional Committee has published a target list on health care. In addition to continuing to contact the five Tennessee Democrat Congressmen, you can go http://www.votervoice.net/link/clickthrough/ext/94697.aspx to contact some of these targets. Much of the talk following Obama’s announcement has focused on how to defeat this second bill through reconciliation, but that is misleading because the first step to defeating Obamacare is not by concentrating on defeating the “fixer” bill but by defeating the Senate bill in the House when it goes to the floor for an up-or-down vote on Thursday, March 18th.

Rep. Lincoln Davis 202-225-6831 Columbia office: 931-490-8699
Rep. Jim Cooper 202-225-4311 Nashville office: 615-736-5295
Rep. Bart Gordon 202-225-4231 Murfreesboro office: 615-896-1986
John Tanner (202) 225-4714, Union City, (731) 885-7070, Jackson Phone: (731) 423-4848, Millington (901) 873-5690 TN (MAYBE)
Rep. Steve Cohen 202-225-3265 Memphis office: 901-544-4131
Harry Mitchell (202) 225-2190 (480) 946-2411 AZ 5th District
Gabrielle Giffords (202) 225-2542 (520) 881-3588 AZ 8th District
Ann Kirkpatrick (202) 225-2315 (928) 226-6914 AZ 1st District
Jerry McNerney (202) 225-1947 925-833-0643 CA 11th District
John Salazar 202-225-4761 970-245-7107 CO 3rd District
Jim Himes (202) 225-5541 (866) 453-0028 CT 4th District
Alan Grayson (202) 225-2176 (407) 841-1757 FL 8th District
Bill Foster (202) 225-2976 630-406-1114 IL 14th District
Baron Hill 202 225 5315 812 288 3999 IN 9th District
Mark Schauer (202) 225-6276 (517) 780-9075 MI 7th District
Gary Peters (202) 225-5802 (248) 273-4227 MI 9th District
Dina Titus (202) 225-3252 702-256-DINA (3462) NV 3rd District
Carol Shea-Porter (202) 225-5456 (603) 743-4813 NH 1st District
Tim Bishop (202) 225-3826 (631) 696-6500 NY 1st District
John Hall (202) 225-5441 (845) 225-3641 x49371 NY 19th District
Bill Owens (202) 225-4611 (315) 782-3150 NY 23rd District
James Matheson Toll-Free Number 1 (877) 677-9743 (202) 225-3011Mike Arcuri (202)225-3665 (315)793-8146 NY 24th District
Dan Maffei (202) 225-3701 (315) 423-5657 NY 25th District
Earl Pomeroy (202) 225-2611 (701) 224-0355 ND At-Large District
Steven Driehaus (202) 225-2216 (513) 684-2723 OH 1st District
Mary Jo Kilroy (202) 225-2015 (614) 294-2196 OH 15th District
Zach Space (202) 225-6265 (330) 364-4300 OH 18th District
Kathy Dahlkemper (202) 225-5406 (814) 456-2038 PA 3rd District
Patrick Murphy (202) 225-4276 (215) 826-1963 PA 8th District
Christopher Carney (202) 225-3731 (570) 585-9988 PA 10th District
Paul Kanjorski (202) 225-6511 (570) 825-2200 PA 11th District
John Spratt (202) 225-5501 (803)327-1114 SC 5th District
Tom Perriello (202) 225-4711 (276) 656-2291 VA 5th District
Alan Mollohan (202) 225-4172 (304) 623-4422 WVA 1st District
Nick Rahall (202) 225-3452 (304) 252-5000 WVA 3rd District
Steve Kagen (202) 225-5665 (920) 437-1954 WI 8th District
Bart Stupak (202) 225 4735 MI (MAYBE)
Brian Baird (202) 225-3536, Vancouver, (360) 695-6292. Olympia, (360) 352-9768, (MAYBE)
senator mark begich (202) 224-3004 toll free. (877) 501 - 6275 just became a MAYBE
Jason Altmire 202-225-2565, Aliquippa, 724-378-0928,
Natrona Heights, 724-226-1304 (MAYBE)

On the Bubble (Major developments from the “yes” and “no” columns in the House)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2467046/posts

Congressional Dems on Twitter
http://www.arrghpaine.com/congressional-dems-on-twitter

And here are toll-free numbers we can use to call any Senators or Reps.
At the first number below you must wait through a tape recording urging you to tell your Rep or Senator to vote “yes” for the health care bill. Just hang on and when the recording is over, you will get the Capitol operator. Just ask for your Rep or Senator’s office. Then you will either talk to an aid or have the chance to leave a message for him/her to vote NO on the health care bill.

When you use the second number and the Capitol operator comes on, just ask for your Rep or Senator’s office. Every time I use this number I get the Rep or Senator’s answer machine, so it may be set up that way all the time...to go to their answer machine. Either way you can leave a message to vote NO on the health care bill!

We need to use these toll free numbers that have been set up for the health care/ BO supporters and illegals to use! After all they are FREE!
1-800-828-0498
1-866-220-0044


61 posted on 03/14/2010 11:58:12 AM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: steelyourfaith

Oh yeah...and who is suing them at the moment??? The republicans should be filing one lawsuit a day - against the illegals like goetner with his IRS stuff - against everyday outrage against the Constitution and we should do that also - every single day - not that I trust the SCOTUS but one in ten would be granted and the dems would have to stop sometime if they don’t want a new lawsuit or to end up in jail. But we and the RINOS in Congress do nothing.


62 posted on 03/14/2010 12:00:29 PM PDT by American Dream 246 (Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
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To: silverleaf

Most of us voted for Obama. It’s what have they DONE to our country.


63 posted on 03/14/2010 1:20:34 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Cacique

above, THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE ME!! I DIDN’T VOTE FOR OBAMA..


64 posted on 03/14/2010 1:21:30 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

What courts? the commies have every judgeship and God help us if they pack the supreme court.


65 posted on 03/14/2010 1:23:04 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: bestintxas

You are assuming there will actually be elections in 2010. And even if there are, once the commies “fix” the census with reapportionment they will guarantee themselves power in eternity..


66 posted on 03/14/2010 1:24:29 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: mojito

“If the Democrats don’t like the Tea Party movement now, just wait.”

Yes.


67 posted on 03/14/2010 1:36:50 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773 & pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: Jim Noble

“If he vetoes the repeal, you will need 67 Senators and 291 House members to override the veto.”

Short, medium and long term action points:

1) Keep calling:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2466657/posts?page=37#37
http://nrcc.org/codered/targets/

2) If this is rammed down our throats, despite all of our efforts, we point to 2012, and in the meantime tie it up in the courts and postpone any tax collections on it until such a time as it is ruled constitutional (or forever if it is ruled unconstitutional.)

3) If they still try to collect taxes we should institute an immediate and gradiated taxpayer revolt. Lift the number of your dependents so that the least amount of taxes are with-held. Some people may consider with-holding their quarterly payments (independent business people). We institute immediately a HUGE legal defense fund to immediately and aggressively defend any legal actions against anyone involved in the taxpayer revolt - under the premise of the HCR Socialism Care Constitionality question.

4) Continue to legistlatively deny funding to the Socialist monster = Fed. Government. Republicans should threaten and actually bring Government to a grinding halt (other than our military, prisons, police and fire.)

5) Continue the 2010 brow beating that started in 2010. Elect a Freedom loving, socialist hating president - to continue cleaning up the mess of the socialist RATS.

6) Implement zero deficit based budgeting - continue to clean up all of the entitlement debt liabilities and clarify what we can and can’t expect out of these legacy entitlement programs. Begin the tough work of ramping them back to a reality basis - or eliminating many of the 2,000 fed entitlements.


68 posted on 03/14/2010 2:14:08 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773 & pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: American Dream 246
"second: besides cute teaparties, we do nothing to stop them . So yes they ARE right to think we are stupid. Sorry for the naked truth."

'cute teaparties'
'they are right'
'we are stupid'

I DISAGREE.

1) 9/12/2009:



2) VA
3) NJ
4) MA
5) 11/2010
6) 11/2012
69 posted on 03/14/2010 2:25:38 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773 & pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: Cacique

“Most of us voted for Obama.”

http://elections.gmu.edu/Turnout_2008G.html
Actually, only 53% of 61.7% voted for MAO-bama. That’s only 32.7% of eligible US voters voted for MAO-bama. Of course only 29% voted for McCain/Palin.


70 posted on 03/14/2010 2:32:25 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773 & pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: Cacique

“And even if there are, once the commies “fix” the census with reapportionment they will guarantee themselves power in eternity..”

God holds eternity. The commies don’t believe in God. They have no say in that matter. I think there are lots of surprises up God’s sleeves...


71 posted on 03/14/2010 2:34:41 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773 & pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: raptor22

IF IS IS AS SIMPLE AS ART 1, SECT 7 THEN YOU DON’T NEED TO BE A CONSTITUTIONAL SCHOLAR TO DEEM THIS ENTIRE YEAR’S WORK BY THE NANCY’S AND HARRY’S UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

STICK A FORK IN IT AND GET BACK TO THE PEOPLES WORK AND STOP WASTING MY TIME AND THE PEOPLES MONIES ON SOMETHING THAT CANNOT SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY.

WHERE ARE THE SCHOLARSHIP RULINGS ON THIS ATTEMPT TO OVERRULE THE CONSTITUTIO?. WHAT ABOUT ALL THE HIGH SALARIED ATTORNEY’S AND THE PRESTIGIOUS PROFESSORS FROM OUR TOP RATED LEGAL UNIVERSITIES TO SPEAK UP AND TELL CONGRESS THEY ARE FULL OF CRAPO!!

VOTE THEM ALL OUT ANYWAY!!


72 posted on 03/14/2010 4:25:35 PM PDT by Napoleon Solo
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To: Cacique

SCOTUS-—Obama did a real good job of pissing off Roberts and most of the others during the SOTU address.


73 posted on 03/14/2010 4:36:08 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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Sunday, March 14, 2010 8:30:42 PM · 13 of 17
WellyP to combat_boots

THE FIX IS IN!!!!!!
I don’t know where to go with this. This happened at about 11:30 this morning. I will not tell where I was or the names of the people involved!

I was having a break with my client today. Two people unknown to each other or to us sat down at the same table, both are in their mid to late 50’s. One was a very high level accounts manager who manages accounts for the “Uber-rich” and the other was a corporate pilot.

The topic of conversation turned to the economy and politics and the mess the country is in. The account manager said, “The fix is in. The simple mulit millionaires are going to get burned badly and the ultra rich are going to get off Scott free because the super rich who support the administration are being tipped off about every move weeks or in some cases months before the Fed or the Administration makes any economic moves.”

“You’re not kidding me?” “No, it is completely true.” The hole game is rigged if you are on the “correct side.” The corporate pilot added that he has been around discussions and confirmed the same knowledge.


74 posted on 03/14/2010 5:59:45 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: Trust but Verify

Quote: “How are you going to repeal it even if you have conservative majorities in Congress? You still have the socialist in the WH. He will veto any repeal and there will not be enough votes in Congress to override.”

Since it is not going to be passed with a vote, no vote will be required to repeal it. Simply declare it invalid, refuse to fund it and impeach any judge who says otherwise. If the left wants to declare anarchy, lets give it to them.


75 posted on 03/14/2010 8:56:19 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: April Lexington

Quote: “The Supreme Court will not involve itself in how the Legislative or Executive branch conduct its business.”

If that is the case, then why is there no line item veto?


76 posted on 03/14/2010 9:23:48 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: April Lexington
The Supreme Court will not involve itself in how the Legislative or Executive branch conduct its business.

But they can rule on the Constitutionality of the Bill after the fact, when a case is brought before them, and clearly, if Article I, Section XII, Clause II, is not followed, then the Bill can't be Constitutional, regardless of any other formalities that Congress and the President may have retained. It would be inconceivable to think the Supreme Court would ignore this.

77 posted on 03/14/2010 9:37:01 PM PDT by csense
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To: raptor22
Living in a democratic country - it was fun while it lasted, wasn't it. But you'd better get used to that change thingy, and Louise and Nancy here will be your tour-guides to your new fascist hell-hole.



Have a nice day!
78 posted on 03/14/2010 9:40:09 PM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: csense
They have ignored Obama’s eligibility and man other cases seeking justice for corrupt executive and legislative actions We have three EQAL branches of government and they stay out of the legislative and executive freakshow.
79 posted on 03/14/2010 10:39:36 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: FlipWilson
Your question doesn;t make sense. The constitution doesn;t grant line item authority. The whole bill is either signed, allowed to lapse or vetoed.
80 posted on 03/14/2010 10:40:46 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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