Posted on 02/26/2010 2:51:42 PM PST by Brugmansian
Beck just said he thinks "I contend that most Americans are libertarians because they want that freedom . . ."
So why don't they vote that way Glenn? Why do we have abortion laws? Why aren't drugs legal? Why do voters reject gay marriage? Why do we have laws regulating banks? Why has every proposal to privatize Social Security much less abolish it been rejected? Why do we have "entangling" foreign relationships? Why do we have trade and immigration laws?
Geez...I thought the people running Washington right now were acting like a bunch of kids. Sooooo...who’s going to be the ‘big, bad third party’ candidate that Beck is going to promote; resulting in the dreaded Obama second term? Let’s cut to the chase...Beck must have SOMEONE in mind.
I contend Glenn Beck is becoming more of a moron every day.
Hey Glenn, how’s that birther issue going for you? Oh, Glenn BTW, Thomas Jefferson was a birther.
Glenn lost creds with me because he doesn’t speak the truth to power concerning the BC issue.
And Rush has been hammering the Moron Morman all week long over the repubs and democrats are the same.
by november, he will be selling ron paul bumper stickers
Libertarian is hype with no substance, has accomplished nothing but disruption and discord (kinda like Glenn Beck). Libertarian stands for anarchy and calls itself Constitutional. Their rallying cry is “Give me liberty without responsiblity.”
Libertarian twists our Constitution to support its agenda. Like its cousin the Left, libertarian is purely agenda driven and its m.o. is remarkably similar to classic marxism.
All depends on the specific agenda item being pushed, e.g., legalization of deadly street drugs, and the Constitution is invoked.
Libertarian supports Roe v. Wade, based on “right to privacy” not contained in the Constitution. The conservative is opposed to Roe v. Wade and dedicated to its overturn based on the “right to life” in the Declaration of Independence.
How then can one be a “conservative libertarian” as claimed by posters on this forum. It is not possible.
How can one claim to be patriot and yet adhere to truther Ron Paul? The libertarian code calls for minimal military expenditure and a weak national defense. This is EXPLICITLY in opposition to the U.S. Constitution.
One cannot be called Patriot and yet deny there is an active and virulent islamic jihad vs. the USA and the freedom, liberty and fairness we represent. The leftist bumperstickers “Peace is Patriotic” and meaningless maxim “Was is Not the Answer” are purposely anti-American. There is no difference between this and the R.Paul refusal to fight and the foul accusation of an internal 9/11 conspiracy.
The sophomoric libertarian says “Gimme drugs, gimme same-sex marriage, gimme abortion, gimme privacy, gimme amoralism.” Libertarian is all about GIMME without counting the cost (kinda like a toddler). Let others sacrifice for my liberty, says the libertarian. I am here only to enjoy life.
The patriot/conservative/Republican constantly studies, learn and matures, believing that along with the incomparable guarantee of liberty and fairness comes a voluntary social contract. In this we choose responsibility to build and maintain a moral society with the highest standards of honesty and righteousness. We choose law and order, understanding the difference between freedom and anarchy. `
Anarchy is the tool of the Left and the goal of the libertarian. The marxist maxim “the end justifies the means” serves both.
Therefore, the libertarian will lie, call itself Republican to run for office, will lie and call itself Patriot to participate in the Tea Party.
I am disheartened to learn of the degree to which Republican clubs have been infiltrated and taken over by libertarians and their “platform.” I am disheartened to learn of the extent to which R. Paul machine has infiltrated and infected the Tea Party. Whether the Paul machine instituted the Tea Party matters not now but the measure of involvement is irrefutable.
I am told by a Tea Party organizer, who I know to be a pro-life conservative, that the R. Paul followers are welcome because they embrace “fiscal responsiblity,” lower spending, blablabla. This is where they hold common ground, although not on other issues (which are dispensable?). But look at Paul’s erratic Congressional record, you will see all he has achieved are earmarks for his district.
The Tea Party is “grassroots,” the Paul machine is most emphatically not. Therefore, there is no common ground between patriotic conservative Republicans and libertarians. The latter is as much a dead weight to this nation as the leftist, the democrat, the code pink and the ACLU.
The Tea Party people feel the Paul followers and libertarians are needed in their “grass roots coalitions,” then that is their choice but it will keep other sincere proven Patriots away.
You used 5 words to say what I used 500 to say.
Let's see. I can get all the porno I want in a few clicks. I can pick up the phone and schedule an abortion. Drugs...well...a little more difficult and the sanctions are extremely punitive but there are always prescriptions. So what "social policies" are the churches so influential in seeing enacted into law? I don't see many.
Americans are addicted to the socialism. Also, they might disagree with the Libertarian party or Libertarian party candidates.
Why do we have abortion laws?
I assume you mean laws restricting abortion. We have those because at one point we didn't want to institutionalize human sacrifice and recognized that a human in utero was, um, A HUMAN being.
Why aren't drugs legal?
Drug laws were put into place to curb the use of drugs by blacks and hispanics. Just like lots of things you accept these days such as gun control and marriage licenses, drug laws were based in sticking it to the brown people. It's ironic and poetic justice that we all lost liberty in the deal that was supposed to make us "safe" from "scary brown people".
Why do voters reject gay marriage?
Most people recognize that marriage is between a man, a woman, and God. Maybe someday they will desire liberty and get the state out of the picture.
Why do we have laws regulating banks?
Maybe it has something to do with the fact that our monetary system is a government-enforced monopoly based on fraud, lies, and deception.
Why has every proposal to privatize Social Security much less abolish it been rejected?
The left loves it because it gives them power over our lives. Also, oldsters are afraid of change and fear being abandoned to die.
Why do we have "entangling" foreign relationships?
Because we are humans and don't like to learn from the mistakes made in the past.
Why do we have trade and immigration laws?
Check Article I, section 8 and section 9 of the US Constitution. Congress has some delegated authority in these matters. They have overstepped, yes. If you have a womb-to-the-tomb welfare state like the USSA, then you have to have immigration laws or the entire system will be quickly swamped. It might happen nonetheless.
It’s so odd that Fox has helped his career to such a degree that he is now entrenched enough to start with the nonsense again, and yet-—he is losing popularity rather than gaining.
Wake up Fox!
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
So, you just want to be left your money. But how will they pay the cops that bust the pot heads you don't like and pay the soldiers that kill the brown people you want killed for revenge?
Maybe you could say "I'm a little statist." like some say "I'm a little pregnant.".
You would probably be labeled as a ‘conservative libertarian’ by that Nolan quiz...probably about where I would fall.
'92 election results -
Clinton 44,909,809 43.01%
Bush 39,104,550 37.45%
Perot 19,743,821 18.91%
Without Perot running
Clinton 44,909,809 43.01%
Bush 58,848,371 56.36%
My point was that Americans, left and right, have voted for all those things. Not just recently, but for decades they have voted against LP platform. So for Beck to claim most Americans are libertarian is absurd.
Sorry Cinderella but the shoe fites.
This is true.
There are many Conservative Republicans who are working
to take back the Tea party that is being ripped off by the Ron PaulBots
From what I hear, the people who make up the Libertarian party are about evenly split on abortion. The Libertarian party platform has moved from pro-abortion to pro-life a lot over the years.
They are unequivocably wrong on the issue of abortion.
I recently argued with two different women about abortion. They had nothing but “I’m a woman. I have a uterus.” and other emotional drivel as the basis for their arguments.
They also loved to use misandy in their supposed “arguments”.
I will just go with Liberty. The Freedom to live my life without ome little Government Jerk on my back. We have too many laws rules regulations programs and taxes. I would eliminate them right away.
When people realize that Beck is pushing for a third party many will stop watching. I think the guy is trying to elect Obama for a second term because that’s the only way I can see Obama winning a second term with a third party in the mix. I’ve lost a lot of respect for Beck here lately.
I’m a RENEGADE ( and Obummer stole my tagline )
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