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Dems vow to resurrect health care bill without GOP (ObamaGeddon: The Reconciliation)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 2/26/10 | Richard Alonzo and Jennifer Loven - ap

Posted on 02/26/2010 12:56:29 PM PST by NormsRevenge

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To: onyx

If they had the votes they would shut up and pass it! They don’t!


41 posted on 02/26/2010 1:30:13 PM PST by kcvl
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To: kcvl

Obama did numerous lectures on Saul Alinsky.

http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/communism/alinsky.htm

Destruction of our capitalist economy is part of the plan.

The student wants to to out master the master.


42 posted on 02/26/2010 1:32:31 PM PST by Ronbo1948
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To: NormsRevenge

disrespecting the american voters.


43 posted on 02/26/2010 1:34:43 PM PST by dalebert
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To: kcvl; ohioWfan; AmishDude

Obama has looked at the electorate and has determined that he will be reelected in 2012.

The question remains, has Nancy determined that she has already lost the speakership? If not, then she is not about to press forward in earnest.


44 posted on 02/26/2010 1:54:27 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: roses of sharon

The Benito Musollini treatment might prove an option, too.


45 posted on 02/26/2010 1:55:35 PM PST by DesertConservative
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To: ohioWfan

They feel very comfortable in their corruption now that they have successfully destroyed the minds of many in the post 60s generations.


46 posted on 02/26/2010 1:57:53 PM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: JennysCool

They’ll understand it come November when they’re all out of a job.


47 posted on 02/26/2010 1:59:55 PM PST by RockinRight (Obama Logic: Global Warming causes blizzards, and deficit spending balances budgets.)
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To: onyx

Obama shouldn’t get measured for his Inauguration 2012 suit just yet.


48 posted on 02/26/2010 2:00:37 PM PST by RockinRight (Obama Logic: Global Warming causes blizzards, and deficit spending balances budgets.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Substitute a death star for the health care bill and this will quickly turn into the plot of “Return of the Jedi”.


49 posted on 02/26/2010 2:01:53 PM PST by dr_who
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To: GilGil

What are you basing that presumption on?


50 posted on 02/26/2010 2:04:35 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: RockinRight

That’s my thinking too, but I’m wagering it isn’t his.


51 posted on 02/26/2010 2:05:43 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: RockinRight

I see a major showdown with Marxist 0bama by July. Washington is going to be in turmoil and there will be major demonstrations around the country.


52 posted on 02/26/2010 2:08:03 PM PST by unkus
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To: ohioWfan

OBAMANOMICS—TRICKLE DOWN DESTRUCTION of the economy

SET THEIR LOCAL AND DC LINES ON FIRE!

Bambi doesn’t keep his promises...so buyer beware!

Sen Scott Brown’s number is 202-224-4543
Capitol Hill switchboard is 202-224-3121

Lots of local demwit phone numbers on this thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2408217/posts

Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military’s secondary health ins.
(DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011 NEEDS TO BE REPEALED!

New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2433867/posts/ OBAMA’s WAR ON SENIORS

Friday, February 19, 2010
Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security
http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security

Health Care Rationing for Seniors Another Problem in New Obama Plan http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html

SOCIALIZED MED THREAD http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2459586/posts

TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:
http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html
This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.) http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

http://www.vawatchdog.org/09/hcva09/hcva110609-1.htm

Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09
Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w/

By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009

Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.
Snip The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.

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Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.

“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.


53 posted on 02/26/2010 2:10:49 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: Perdogg

What the Rats think is that they can ram it down our throats and the GOP will never be able to muster the votes and/or the political will to repeal it. What they misunderestimate is the anger of the people and that if it can be passed with 51 votes, it can also be repealed with 51 votes.


54 posted on 02/26/2010 2:20:21 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Truth - Reality through the eyes of God.)
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To: kcvl

You’re right. If they had the votes, this would have been passed long ago.

This is all posturing and bluff and bluster. They are trying to arm twist adn do some more back room deals, but, those actions haven’t moved the votes of enough congressmen to allow this to pass.

If they had the votes, they would call another midnight session of each House, cast their votes, and be done with it.

I know they are eager to move on to cap and trade to keep the oceans from rising and drowning us and all that. The longer health care drags on, the less time they have to do other things.


55 posted on 02/26/2010 2:20:52 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Well, it can be repealed with 51 votes in the Senate, if there is a Republican president to sign that legislation. Otherwise it would need a 2/3 vote to overcome an Obama veto. If this passes, realistically it can’t be repealed till Jan. 2013 if a Repub. president is elected in Nov. 2012.


56 posted on 02/26/2010 2:22:50 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: DesertConservative

The Benito Musollini treatment might prove an option, too.


Hell yes.


57 posted on 02/26/2010 2:31:35 PM PST by unkus
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To: NormsRevenge

Bring it on Rats, do so at your own peril you arrogant, Marxist SOB’s.


58 posted on 02/26/2010 2:32:54 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: 1Old Pro

Today I sent a message to my Democratic Congresscritter Tim Ryan (OH-17). I reminded him he may be challenged in his own primary and to look at Virginia, New Jersey, Mass. at what lies ahead. I pointed out the vulnerability of many members up for re-election and reminded him he works for us and that the people ARE speaking up - they are voting these goofs right out. That we DO have an interest in Congressional procedure unlike what Obama noted. That we ARE paying attention and that we see this is simply a power grab and that his own leadership doesn’t care about sacrificing a few members to get what they want.


59 posted on 02/26/2010 2:33:49 PM PST by nurees (Oh...there is a NEW Mexico (Homer Simpson))
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To: Perdogg
I think this calls for Senator Dikembe Mutombo.
60 posted on 02/26/2010 2:39:47 PM PST by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country)
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