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Joe the Plumber: I can’t support Palin if she supports McCain
Hot Air ^ | FEBRUARY 15, 2010 | ALLAHPUNDIT

Posted on 02/15/2010 6:25:41 PM PST by RobinMasters

Where does this fit in the great hierarchy of authenticity politics? Sarahcuda may be the most salt-of-the-earth pol on the American landscape but she’s also an internationally famous celebrity and multimillionaire. Surely a blue-collar Joe who’s been known to fix toilets outranks her. Does that mean she’s now been formally excommunicated from the church of “true conservatism” — as I suspected — or did yesterday’s NASCAR appearance imbue her with some sort of impregnable authenticity forcefield?

More importantly, does this mean Meggie Mac was right?

Wurzelbacher touched on several different points during his speech, and many of them were surprising. He said he doesn’t support Sarah Palin anymore. Why? Because she’s backing John McCain’s re-election effort. “John McCain is no public servant,” he told the room, calling the 2008 Republican nominee a career politician.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: allahpundit; allahpundit4rinos; allahpundit4romney; az2010; joetheplumber; palin; plumbervspalin
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To: Sprite518
The next president I believe is not on the scene yet.

Kinda hard to support a person for president that hasn't pitched their hat in the ring yet.

Palin is a private citizen, she can do as she darn well pleases as far as I am concerned.

121 posted on 02/15/2010 9:46:32 PM PST by BARLF
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To: politicalmerc

“If this were a game you might be right.”

I am right even though it is not a game.

“Since you see the serious nature of letting the Dems win; permanent terrible damage is done to our country”

Permanent terrible damage was done to our country under 12 years of the Bushes. Less was done under Clinton when we had the “Contract with America” legislators to rein him in.

“while you idiot purists make your point.”

The point is that the RINOs do the same damage as the demonrats...just a little less rapidly and a little less overtly.

If you compromise monkeys managed to win every election with RINOs from here on, the country would still become the Soviet Socialist Tyranny of Amerikastan, just a bit later than the hard left had hoped.

“If we had a Rino as President we would not be seeing the extensive and very difficult to repair damage to our county”

Oh? Then why did we see exactly that under the Bushes? And you have the gall to call people idiots for seeing what you’re blind to.

“so that your egos could sit on the sidelines and say “I told you so.”

Nothing to do with ego. The fact is that if we keep electing RINOs freedom is just as dead as if we keep electing Gramscians.

“I’m sure you don’t care but I don’t blame the rino’s I blame people like YOU for allowing the communists like Obama to be in power.”

Oh, but I do care, because as long as there are too many people who think like you, the left can only win.

The demonrats want to take us to the left; the RINOs want to take us to the left. You support one of those efforts.

“It isn’t a game; stop playing it like its a game before you completely ruin the Country you say you love.”

That’s not even rational. Whether it’s chess or a battle, one tries to win. You demand that we stop trying to win and settle for a slower drift to the left, because it’s somehow better than a gallop.


122 posted on 02/15/2010 11:40:00 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: RobinMasters
Joe the Plumber: I can’t support Palin if she supports McCain

Fair enough. It's a free country.

123 posted on 02/15/2010 11:43:30 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: BARLF

“In 2006 voters gave democraps control of congress. ( teach rino’s a lesson)”

No. Some disheartened Republicans stayed home. Very few did so to “teach RINOs a lesson.” However, the major force in the election was election fraud.

“In 2008 same thing, gave democrats executive and Justice.”

Ummm...the electorate gave the demonrats control of the Department of Justice?

Care to elaborate on that?

And, again, millions and millions of Republicans turned out and voted. Far more than properly registered demonrats who only voted once. But again, fraud won the day.

“Where were you and how did you miss all that.”

I didn’t miss a thing. You just read events incorrectly.

“The problem now as I see it we have real enemies, let me repeat, real enemies with total power running our country in the ground. Not because of incompetence as so many keep saying, it is being done systematically and intentional.”

That’s been true since FDR.

“So helping the democrats cut the throat of Republicans has already been done since 2006 through 2008.”

Nonsense. When a Republican presidential nominee gets a total of 27 votes nationwide, it will have happened. When congress consists of 100 dim senators and 435 dim congressbeasts, it will have happened. When the RNC can no longer afford to maintain a single office or telephone number anywhere in the US, it will have happened.

And unless we show them that this is the future they’re staring at, they will keep selling us down the river one RINO at a time.


124 posted on 02/15/2010 11:53:48 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Sprite518

“We all now know what it is like to have someone with no experience in the White House.”

No. It’s not a matter of experience. It’s a matter of character, and of having your head on straight.

Probably 25 percent of the people in any phone book would not only be better than Bam-Bam, Clinton, and Carter, they’d probably do a pretty damn good job.

Given a choice between character and experience, go with character every time.


125 posted on 02/16/2010 12:00:34 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Carling

So true. But your message falls on deaf ears. Given the number of conservative supporters, had she made the honest choice, she could have had great impact AGAINST McCain. Instead, if I’m suppose to accept the excuses made for her here, she continues to set aside her principles to play the typical political game. Well that, or truth be told, she’s been doing it all along because she does support his agenda. We’ll know in time, but neither is good... unless you’re a fan.


126 posted on 02/16/2010 2:07:10 AM PST by Kimberly GG (PALIN SUPPORTS PATH TO CITIZENSHIP AMNESTY and PROGRESSIVE RHINO MCCAIN.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It’s called loyalty, folks.

Loyalty to the left, lip service to the right.

127 posted on 02/16/2010 2:11:49 AM PST by Mojave (Ignorant and stoned - Obama's natural constituency.)
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To: KoRn
Her needing $100k for speaking at a "tea party" convention was the last straw as far as I'm concerned.

You do know she donated the money back, don't you? She said so clearly during her interview on Fox News.

128 posted on 02/16/2010 2:14:10 AM PST by TN4Liberty (My tagline disappeared so this is my new one.)
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To: patriot preacher
This is where Conservatives often fail — they shoot their own.

I agree with you. These "purity tests" that some conservatives use are absurd. To reject a person because you disagree with them 2-10% of the time (when there is no better alternative) is suicidal, and honestly, a bit childish.

129 posted on 02/16/2010 2:19:30 AM PST by TN4Liberty (My tagline disappeared so this is my new one.)
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To: RobinMasters

The real point of this story is the pent up anger of the conservative base. This has been building for several yrs and its at the boiling point. The rest of the country is catching up to FR now and its fascinating to watch the old guard of the RNC/GOP DC elites squirm.


130 posted on 02/16/2010 2:23:13 AM PST by rrrod
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To: TN4Liberty

“To reject a person because you disagree with them 2-10% of the time”

It doesn’t matter what the percentage is, when the point demonstrates weakness of character or dishonesty.

“(when there is no better alternative)”

You can find a better alternative in any Denny’s in the country at 6 am on any work day.


131 posted on 02/16/2010 3:34:34 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: chicagolady

So calling Sarah out means not supporting her? Yeah, that’s a brilliant strategy.


132 posted on 02/16/2010 3:49:50 AM PST by rintense (Only dead fish go with the flow, which explains why Congress stinks.)
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To: highlander_UW
I'll promise you this...if the republican party runs a RINO against Obama, I will skip voting. I'm done voting for the lesser of two evils.

This is the point that makes pure disconnect out of this article. I can no longer imagine any conservative these days supporting a RINO. If the nation is finished let's end it today and be done with it. I guess I'm as tired as the next person in trying to resuscitate it...or when a hundred people tell us we're dead, maybe we should just lie down.

On the other hand, at this point I don't consider Sarah Palin to be a RINO. I doubt seriously I will consider that until she starts advocating liberalism. I haven't heard her do that up to this point.

I think there may even be a few conservative politicians with a national following if not appeal. I haven't yet seen one who can move massive blocks of voters the way she can.

I still think the argument is premature. There is an extremely compelling event on this side of the horizon to consider first.

133 posted on 02/16/2010 4:03:02 AM PST by stevem
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To: stevem
On the other hand, at this point I don't consider Sarah Palin to be a RINO. I doubt seriously I will consider that until she starts advocating liberalism. I haven't heard her do that up to this point.

I'm not suggesting Palin is a RINO...but she is campaigning for one...and it brings her judgment into question. I wouldn't discount her over this one issue, but it is a negative choice.

I think there may even be a few conservative politicians with a national following if not appeal. I haven't yet seen one who can move massive blocks of voters the way she can.

At this point I'm not aware of a better candidate, but it's way too early to come to firm conclusions on that account.

I still think the argument is premature. There is an extremely compelling event on this side of the horizon to consider first.

Absolutely.

134 posted on 02/16/2010 4:11:55 AM PST by highlander_UW (Obama has lost or not saved over 4 million jobs!)
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To: Snurple

You Palinties are on a roll. Attacking VP Cheney and Joe the Plumber in the same day. Keep it up......


135 posted on 02/16/2010 4:19:41 AM PST by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: Prokopton

Joe is right. Sarah has let personality and her good nature cloud her political stand. I can forgive her this error.


136 posted on 02/16/2010 4:26:24 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Lib-Lickers 2

You think it was stupid to support the republican nominee that picked her as VP?
That pretty much tells me all I need to know about your thought processes. If that’s what you call the process you went thru to derive at your conclusion. To be able to reach such a conclusion, I would guess you must be a Huck fan.
Because it takes blind faith....


137 posted on 02/16/2010 6:35:09 AM PST by Robbin (If Sarah isnÂ’t welcome, IÂ’m not welcome, itÂ’s just that simpleÂ…)
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To: CincyRichieRich
Look, there has to be a middle ground between:

"I WUVVV SARAH!!!"

and

"SARAH IS A RINO! I HATES HER FOREVER!!"

Sarah Palin is a politician. She's going to say and do things you agree with, and things you don't. When primary time comes round, if her name is on the ballot, we're all going to have to weigh those things she has done and said, and choose accordingly.

Why that's so hard a concept for so many Freepers is a mystery to me.

138 posted on 02/16/2010 6:41:58 AM PST by Notary Sojac ("Goldman Sachs" is to "US economy" as "lamprey" is to "lake trout")
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To: Snurple

Troll? I think not.


139 posted on 02/16/2010 9:40:44 AM PST by cubreporter (Scott Brown turned it all around. The people CAN and DID make a difference!!!)
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To: highlander_UW
I feel the same about it today as I did before I read her book. I think McCain could do us all a favor and retire.

If McCain hadn't picked Palin she would be unheard of east and south of the Chilkoot Pass. For her to fail to acknowledge that in any and every way she can would show a lack of class of staggering proportions. So far I haven't seen her do or say anthing that lacked class.

Maybe before it's over we will see that McCain did present a gift to the United States, and that gift is Sarah Palin.

140 posted on 02/16/2010 11:38:14 AM PST by stevem
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