Posted on 02/06/2010 10:14:41 AM PST by Syncro
February 6, 2010 12:10 PM
*snip*
"Prove your case."
"I should prove, what, a birth certificate that may or may not exist?" Farah had gotten irritated. "Thats ridiculous. You dont even understand the fundamental tenets of what journalism is about, Andrew. Its not about proving things. Its about asking questions and seeking truth."
Breitbart tensed up after that insult. "Right."
"I know youre not a journalist, so thats fine. But dont diminish people whove been doing this for 35 years."
"So youre going to go on record saying that Im not a journalist?"
"Are you? Ive never heard you claim to be. Are you?"
"Ill let it be answered by you."
"Well, I knew [Matt]Drudge didnt consider himself a journalist, so I assumed that you were.
I dont know, Im not trying to insult you."
"You did."
(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...
It's a waste of time and it annoys the pig.
ML/NJ
The problem with Joseph Farah and WND isn’t that they’re questioning the Article II, Section I qualifications of Obama, it’s that they aren’t asking the right question - which citizenships did you have when you were born, and if they were dual - British (Kenyan)/American - how can you qualify under the USC?
Then the matter of whether he was born in HI becomes a subpoint, under the larger issue.
We all know that bammy has lied about his entire past. It wouldn’t shock me if he were born in Kenya or Hawaii...but who cares, it’s not that main issue.
He’s hiding ALL of this also:
The List:
1 Certified copy of original birth certificate
2 Columbia University transcripts
3 Columbia thesis paper
4 Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
5 Harvard University transcripts
6 Illinois State Senate records
7 Illinois State Senate schedule
8 Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9 Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mothers
10 Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11 Occidental College Transcripts
12 Parents marriage Certificate
13 Record of baptism
14 Selective Service registration records
15 Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16 Passport records for all passports
17 Scholarly articles
18 Access to his grandmother in Kenya
19 List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists
20 Punahou grade school records
Anyhow, Farah and Breitbart could quit fighting if they both just asked the larger question - Was Obama a dual citizen (even if born in HI) and what do our laws and the USC tell us about that?
Of course sadly 50% of this nation could care less about what the USC says about anything...
That’s part of the huge dilemma in this nation. We need to educate and recapture the next generation, as patriots and Constitutionalists.
If Obama had submitted a job application with me, and was unable to establish his credentials I’d reject him immediately.
“I believe the only claims being made by birthers is that obama refuses to provide a copy of his BC and any documentation from Occidental, Columbia, Harvard. Theres nothing to dispute about that.”
Since the RATS and the RAT press have decided to make being a birther indicative of being in the loonie bin, we just need to turn the tables on them and ask them to defend their anti-Constitutional law position that you shouldn’t have to defend your qualifications for POTUS. And the focus should be on Natural Born Citizenship and not Hawaii - to take away their little pet, knee jerk issue.
If they want to argue against the USC, now that’s truly loonie bin time. Nothing like the RATS accusing us of being the loons, when they really are.
But let’s take the wind out of their tiny, little sails, by being wise about this...
Argue NBC and the USC and get off of HI...(I know it’s tough as we’ve simply asked them about the birth certificate.) So recast this - go a few steps higher - and watch the silly RATS scramble..
They would have let you know if they knew before Obama locked up the nomination.
ML/NJ
That’s pretty good, chopperman. I’ve been searching for the definition of “natural born”...any definition, that has some legal and logical heft.
There are not that many clear cut cases I can hang my hat on, but yours is pretty clear.
While I have some skepticm with regard to the application, at least it provides another stepping stone in my research.
Thanks for posting it.
Yep. It’s just not a long-term issue. Obama may be voted out of office by 2013 — and who knows, maybe better legislation requiring better birth documents for presidential candidates will be on the books by then.
>> It could be that, in the absence of his father, the actual birth certificate identifies his race as Caucasian <<
Yep, or it might say that his father was Frank Marshall Davis.
What BC from any state calls out the religion of parent or child.
My only reply to you is: Don’t forget O. J.
You are so positive that you are going to save the Constitution by proving Obummer, the Marxist now posing as a Fascist, is not eligible.
Remember that what you knew had nothing to do with the outcome of the O. J. case.
And there are thousands of similar cases every year.
We have two problems. It is a lot smarter to treat them as two entirely separate issues..
“You are either all in or all out. If your gonna waffle on the very core of your movement then you might end up with a name like TINO (tea partyer in name only)!”
Wow.
If I were a liberal intent on neutralizing the tea party movement, what you’re trying to say would be a sure-fire way to do it. Postulating that a foundational requirement to be REAL tea-party member is to embrace the birther issue is TOXIC.
I would not be surprised to find out that many who are most vocal about keeping this issue alive are Democrat operatives. THEY are the only ones who are benefitting from the Birth Certificate issue continuing to poison the political landscape.
Their only plan for stemming the tide of conservatism: Divide, Discourage, Deflect, Distract. Keeping the birth certificate alive satisfies all of these. I’m not falling for it.
That is a laughable remark, worth a big LOL!
Your front man Farah stumbled around and could only attack Andrew about if he was a journalist or not.
Farah bragged about his years as a journalist, and has been outed as a marginal fringe semi-wacko for years.
Breitbart had it right when he said this:
"You dont recognize it as a fundamentally controversial issue that forces a unified group of people to have to break into different parts? It is a schism of the highest order."Breitbart make Joe look like a little kid.
“Breitbart is correct; it is not a winning issue.”
“If the goal is to defeat Husseins agenda, prattling on and on about his birth certificate is not going to move the electorate in that direction.”
Seems like your name Recovering Democrat is apt. Get back to us when you have “recovered.” The Democrats have been evil since Truman who was probably the last good Democrat. This was in the late 1940s.
I happen to believe that it is highly likely Obama was NOT born in Hawaii -- for a lot of reasons.
The only thing we can say definitely is that Obama is not forthcoming with the American people by hiding his birth certificate. (The Annenberg document is clearly a fake.)
I don’t think McCain and Hillary blew it by not pursuing the birth certificte issue during the campaign. I think pressure was brought to bear and they folded. We are now living in a Thugocracy, and our so called leaders, and the media, are craven cowards. They might get a surprise in the future to find “we, the people” not so much.
I wish more people here got what you are saying.
If it were a winning issue, the election would have been a lot different.
There are tons of other things about Obama’s agenda that already resonate negatively with conservative and independent voters.
To many of those framers, a Kenyan father would make the off spring property.
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