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Obamacare Is Dead and Here's Why [Obamacare Ongoing Thread]
Town Hall ^ | 1-26-10 | Robert A. Levy

Posted on 01/25/2010 11:27:02 PM PST by JustPiper

As the Massachusetts blame game unfolds, the president’s unpopular health bill leads the list. But the substantive provisions of the bill were just part of the problem. Perhaps more important, voters were appalled by how the deal unfolded.

Consider the pre-election giveaway to the labor unions. Negotiators agreed to exempt union contracts until 2018 from the tax on so-called Cadillac health-insurance plans. That backroom bargain not only outraged the voters, it also violated the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution, requiring the federal government to extend equal protection of the laws to all U.S. persons. Of course, not all voters understood the constitutional nuances, but they sensed that something was very wrong; and they reacted.

I have been disturbed by the socialists for years, ever since I learned many members of Congress 'openly' joined the DSA (Democratic Socialists of America). Several years ago, the names were published on the DSA site. (since removed of course) Please post any info you have, many of you have been on this issue for many years, & if we can store it all on one thread, we have our FreeRepublic Warehouse on the enemies of the state. How DO we combat this, when it's coming at us from every angle? When the people have been asleep for decades. Please post anything you have found or accumulated. Also choose a dictator these people follow, of particular interest,those in D.C. who have been quoted with their adulation of one.

Communism- Marxism-Leninism-Stalinism-Trotskyism-Maoism- Hoxhaism-Hoxhaism-Titoism ETC


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To: JustPiper
State by state we take our country back.

5th state exempts guns. Is Washington noticing?

Virginia Lawmakers Say "No" To Health Care Reform (First in the Nation)

Idaho first to sign law against health care reform


1,281 posted on 03/19/2010 3:38:28 PM PDT by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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To: caww; JustPiper; All

Kosmas is voting yes. they are saying they now have the votes.


1,282 posted on 03/19/2010 3:38:44 PM PDT by MestaMachine (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426869/posts SUPPORT RINO FREE AMERICA)
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To: blackie; caww

I have been asked to liveblog on this thread Sunday, FRiends I need you here with me

White House Brief LIVE on I HEART RADIO
Paul W. Westcott

March 19, 2010 at 6:36pm
Subject: Hey
Thanks for the links Samantha, I’ll have your page up in studio. Sunday starting around 1pmET we’ll be here. And LIVE at 2pmET. Best,

paul w


1,283 posted on 03/19/2010 3:42:16 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD~ "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: MestaMachine

A pox on all Dems,and a double-pox on Pelosi!


1,284 posted on 03/19/2010 3:44:16 PM PDT by Palladin (The Obama administration is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Jim Robinson; kristinn; ThePatriotsFlag; azishot; blackie; stephenjohnbanker; ...

~Ping to Live Blogging Sunday,right here, our posts will be on I Heart, I will email them to Paul live


1,285 posted on 03/19/2010 3:45:44 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD~ "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: JustPiper

How ‘bout a link to I Heart ??

:)


1,286 posted on 03/19/2010 3:47:10 PM PDT by STARWISE (KILL DEMON PASS! CALL THE LIST TODAY!! http://tinyurl.com/yk6e2u2)
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To: blackie

36 more, Blackie. Idaho is next, then Arizona.


1,287 posted on 03/19/2010 3:50:08 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: blackie

RJC opposes “deeply flawed” Obamacare bill; laments squandered opportunity for sensible reform

Washington, D.C. (March 19, 2010) — This weekend, the House of Representatives is expected to decide the fate of President Obama’s unpopular plan to give the federal government unprecedented control over every American’s health-care.

Republican Jewish Coalition Executive Director Matt Brooks released the following statement:

The Republican Jewish Coalition regrets that the opportunity to pursue sensible insurance reforms on a bipartisan basis was squandered because of the approach embraced by President Obama and Democrat congressional leaders.

Even if this bill passes, it will only do so by the narrowest of margins, with the skids greased by indefensible special favors and unprecedented (and perhaps unconstitutional) procedural sleights of hand. This process has further undermined Americans’ trust in their legislators.

Substantively, the Obama plan is wrong for America. It will worsen our already dire fiscal situation. It will cause even more job losses - at a time when we desperately need to be creating jobs. It will cause millions of Americans to lose health-care arrangements they are satisfied with. And it will not address the health-care cost problem that Americans are most concerned about.

We are proud to have been the leading voice of opposition to this deeply flawed legislation in the Jewish community, and if it is enacted, we will join the effort to repeal it.

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This statement appears on the RJC web site at:
http://www.rjchq.org/Newsroom/newsdetail.aspx?id=3a806eb3-4c9f-4b55-85a4-2cbc74df1e40


1,288 posted on 03/19/2010 3:51:26 PM PDT by MestaMachine (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426869/posts SUPPORT RINO FREE AMERICA)
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To: JustPiper
Just posted on another healthcare thread ...

Does anyone ever ask how many EXTRA deaths there will be BECAUSE of Obamacare? I'm not talking about abortions or even old people who might die three months or more earlier than they otherwise might have under our existing system. I'm talking about the great unwashed, not yet old, who won't be able to find a doctor, or at least an educated doctor, because it just won't be worth it to be a doctor. Doctors are just too "greedy," so maybe the government will try to make them slaves. It will be okay for the time being because most doctors are white. Slaves won't give the same sort of treatment if they give any treatment at all. Some will disappear. Congressmen will still get their treatment, sort of the way members of the Communist Party get treatment in Cuba, or maybe only if they are members of the Communist Party. But the rest of us will get "care" like in The Real Cuba. It won't be pretty.

ML/NJ

1,289 posted on 03/19/2010 3:51:37 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: JustPiper

Krauthammer just said it will exceed 2.5 trillion the first 10 years. Called Obama a multiple liar.


1,290 posted on 03/19/2010 3:51:46 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: JustPiper
Proposed Missouri constitutional amendment would prevent federal health insurance mandate
1,291 posted on 03/19/2010 3:56:42 PM PDT by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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To: JustPiper

The Robert Powell Center for Medical Ethics

 

The Reid Bill contains important elements that would greatly impact the ability of patients to receive unrationed medical care. These elements, combined with inadequate funding – a scheme of “robbing Peter to pay Paul” wherein half of the funding comes from cuts in Medicare spending, would result in rationing life-saving treatment for senior citizens.

Limiting Senior Citizens’ Right to Use Their Own Money to Save Their Own Lives
Limiting Exchange Users’ Right to Use Their Own Money to Save Their Own Lives
“Shared Decisionmaking” – Advance Care Planning By Another Name?
The Medicare Commission
Assisted Suicide Funding?
The Secretary and Quality Discretion
Notes

Limiting Senior Citizens’ Right to Use Their Own Money to Save Their Own Lives

The Reid bill duplicates the House bill provision that would effectively allow federal bureaucrats at the Centers for Medicaid and Medicare Services (CMS) to bar senior citizens from adding their own money, if they choose, to the government contribution in order to get private-fee-for-service Medicare Advantage (MA) plans less likely to ration life-saving treatment.

Centers for Medicaid and Medicare Services (CMS) to bar senior citizens from adding their own money


1,292 posted on 03/19/2010 4:04:36 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: combat_boots

“The Reid bill duplicates the House bill provision that would effectively allow federal bureaucrats at the Centers for Medicaid and Medicare Services (CMS) to bar senior citizens from adding their own money, if they choose, to the government contribution in order to get private-fee-for-service Medicare Advantage (MA) plans less likely to ration life-saving treatment.”

Seniors will be forced to wipe out their life savings to pay for Asian health care.


1,293 posted on 03/19/2010 4:25:51 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

“I mean to kill you in one minute, Ned, or see you hanged in Fort Smith at Judge Parker’s convenience. Which’ll it be?”

“I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man.”

“Fill your hands you son of a b!t@H.”

http://lancemannion.typepad.com/lance_mannion/2008/11/can-a-bold-talk.html


1,294 posted on 03/19/2010 4:57:12 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: TigersEye

DC has to notice my pal...it is everywhere! soon it will be ALL but the hardline red states


1,295 posted on 03/19/2010 4:58:33 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD~ "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: MestaMachine

Grrr...it seems to change every 15 min!


1,296 posted on 03/19/2010 4:59:06 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD~ "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Krauthammer just said it will exceed 2.5 trillion the first 10 years. Called Obama a multiple liar.

This is going to bring about the collapse of most hospitals and medical practices in short order. It's going to cost much, much more than $2.5 trillion to pick up the pieces.

1,297 posted on 03/19/2010 5:02:02 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Let tyrants shake their iron rod, and slavery clank her galling chains)
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To: STARWISE

LISTEN! ALL POLITICS 24/7 CALL IN: 1-877-707-7172

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I listen here:

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1,298 posted on 03/19/2010 5:13:39 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD~ "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: JustPiper

It is going to be hard to ignore. What point is this whole Health Care Insurance Reform scam if most of the states ban it?


1,299 posted on 03/19/2010 5:15:44 PM PDT by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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To: Jim Noble
Senator Landrieu, on Greta's show last night, said that the "doctor fix" is "irrelevant" and "unnecessary." That says to me that the Dems have no intention of ever passing it. The medical system may collapse at warp speed.

Landrieu Goes "On The Record" About FMAP Fix

She starts talking about the "doctor fix" at 9:00 and is done with that by 11:30 in the video if you want to skip her other lying BS.

1,300 posted on 03/19/2010 5:20:08 PM PDT by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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