Posted on 01/13/2010 7:08:20 PM PST by SeekAndFind
He may be a crank, but he’s consistent in his crankery. Anywhere there’s human misery — after 9/11, after Katrina, even after Ariel Sharon’s stroke — Reverend Pat will be there to explain to the victims why they deserved it. (And he’s not the only one.) He’s taking a beating on Twitter right now for having said this, including/especially from Christians who don’t want to see the faith smeared by his latest Old Testament thunderbolt theory. No worries there: Other Christian leaders, starting with the Pope and Franklin Graham, are taking a more New Testament view. But even conceding that he doesn’t speak for most Christians, he does still command a sizable following, no? Even after years of barfing up stuff like this.
If you’re wondering what the “pact with the devil” is all about (fact check: roughly 95 percent of Haitians are Christian), Tapper has some quickie background. Tongue-in-cheek exit question from MKH: According to the Harry Reid standard, shouldn’t Robertson’s charitable works absolve him from any and all offensive utterances?
What would you rather he say? “Their half of the island sucks and they’re all poor because they’re black”?
Funny how the Domincan Republic didn’t lose 500,000 in this quake.
I'm not sure he did: I heard it (once) on Todd Schnitt's show. It sounded to me as though he was saying that warring (and breaking) with France was "The Pact".
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Please seem my apology in post 40. I’m sorry I neglected to ping you.
Which continued with the qur'an, Sikhism, mormonism, bahai, etc., etc., etc., etc. Looks like once you buy into "progressive revelation" there's no end to the matter.
I enjoyed your post. It is filled with very practical wisdom. You are right we have bigger fish to fry like our foreign foes plus Obama and our Congress who are out of control and causing more harm than good.
Robertson was just rambling. How can a country make a pact with Satan? Nothing he said is remotely logical. Robertson has prophesied falsely in the past which makes him a false prophet.
It is stuff like this (combined by Bush’s foreign policy and domestic bungling) that has led to the signficant rise of self-identified atheists in the last decade.
Dear Lord, Please protect us all from your followers. Amen
I lost 23 co-workers on 9/11. I blamed Osama bin Laden until Robertson straightened my out. Now I know it was God.
No, it's usually due to corrupt and venal government. Haiti has the worst government in the western hemisphere, so bad things happen to them more often than most.
“And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; . . .” (Isaiah 28:18).
A nation can make an agreement with hell! Israel did, for protection, when they worshiped false gods (essentially worshiping the devil). God knew about it, too, and told them that it would not stand when He decided to judge them.
I do not know whether Haitian leaders at some point in their history actually contracted with the devil for protection against the French or anyone else. Although I am not in theological synq with Pat Robertson in many areas, the concept of a nation or a nation’s leaders selling itself/themselves to Satan is not as much of a crackpot idea as many believe.
Israel’s leaders had done that by the 8th century BC, and Jehovah cleaned their (say . . . prophetic) clock for doing so.
If a Christian believes the Bible, then they believe in Satan. And if they believe in Satan, they also believe that he has great power, even over the kingdoms of the world, of which he spoke with Christ without contradiction from the Saviour (Matthew ch. 4; Luke ch. 4).
Many places in the Scriptures speak of a spiritual warfare including angels, some God’s, some the devil’s, duking it out in the spiritual realm over the nations on earth. Read the book of Daniel where their are spiritual princes named for the earthly nations they manipulate. Isaiah and Ezekiel contain like passages.
I am not necessarily defending Robertson’s statement, as I am unsure to what extent a mere human being can accurately assess such things for any given nation or in any specific circumstances, as those in Haiti.
But the concept itself is not bizarre when one reads and believes the Scriptures of Truth.
Isn’t that the truth.
They did make a pact with the devil.
Whether it resulted in earthquakes, only God knows.
They also made deals with Clinton who spent our blood and treasure propping up that psychopath Aristede.
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The idea that a country can make a deal with Satan and an evangelist can be made aware of it is ludicrous. God sends people, not calamities.
Better yet, the New Testament says that God will test his Elect. They will be persecuted. They will suffer harm for the faith. So an earthquake is just as likely to be a test of the Elect as it is a punishment.
I agree
“They [Haiti] did make a pact with the devil. . . They also made deals with Clinton . . . “
Interesting parallel.
The typical narc pastor thinks the worship service is all about him, and that he is the font of some sort of "therapy." So the worship service abandons communion, not enough time for all that wine and bread, and is instead a box with a voice that never stops talking. "Feed my sheep"--but no time to do that. Gotta talk, talk, talk.
“Better yet, the New Testament says that God will test his Elect. They will be persecuted. They will suffer harm for the faith. So an earthquake is just as likely to be a test of the Elect as it is a punishment.”
I would NOT disagree with that, and it is a point equally worthy of consideration.
God sent fireballs down on the cities of the plain in Genesis 19, and the “elect” (Lot and some of his family) were delivered, though in a backslidden state.
I would continue to argue that there is a warfare for the kingdoms of the world in the spiritual realm (many political decisions are a consequence of it), and the judgments of Daniel and Revelation include the culmination of such with the Man of Sin (either the devil incarnate or directly controlled) ruling from the desicrated temple in Jerusalem over all of the earth’s nations for a period of time in the future.
In that, there is a whole lot of satanic selling going on, including the souls of men (Revelation 18:13).
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