. . . . Interesting.
[Thanks, SeizetheCarp and stockpirate.]
Posted on 12/26/2009 6:59:53 AM PST by westcoastwillieg
Attorney Philip J. Berg defends Obama birth certificate lawsuits
Editor's note: Philip J. Berg, former deputy attorney general of Pennsylvania and an activist attorney who brought a lawsuit challenging the eligibility of Barack Obama to become president of the United States, has written the following reply to Jamie Freeze's Dec. 22 RenewAmerica article "Facts are stubborn things: Obama is a natural-born citizen."
Jamie Freeze, a law student, has called any of us who question Soetoro/Obama's citizenship status and constitutional eligibility to serve as U.S. President --- a constitutional right of ours, of course --- incompetent idiots. Ms. Freeze, however, may want to continue her education. Part of being a lawyer, a very important part, is being able to comprehend what you read and to cite the correct law to collaborate it, something Ms. Freeze has clearly failed to do.
I will respond below to Ms. Freeze's allegations. My responses are in bold. I also want to make very clear to all readers that none of the eligibility cases have been heard, litigated, or dismissed based on the law pertaining to any of the issues raised. Instead, the eligibility cases have been dismissed on the basis of "STANDING" only.
(Excerpt) Read more at renewamerica.com ...
The photoshopped image of the COLB that suddenly appeared in 2008 on the internet has been debunked as a forgery by at least two forensic document specialists. No physical colb has ever been provided for verification.
The birth announcement is a virtually useless piece of documentation as to providing any ‘proof’ of birthplace—it could easily have been posted by the word of one relative (Obama’s maternal grandmother) as Hawaii allowed.
And we have plenty of reason to believe the Dunham family knew there was clear advantage to attempting to document this baby as having ‘american born’’citizenship— since the mother, Ann, was too young at the time of delivery to convey parental citizenship upon her newborn (as is automatic when the mother is of legal age for the designated amount of time) Grandma Dunham stepped in.
Ann wasn’t.
Actually I do believe that in he case you site it is a precedence for on-line verification of documentation....
blah blah blah woof woof
No rumor, Obot.
Your orders are to make as much noise, dispense as much misinformation as possible to obscure the truth.
There are clear records as to legal fees spent, they are noted within this thread in fact.
Thanks for your bootlick Obama visit though...
No, the court in this case did take that judicial notice...too bad it would have been great..
I am sorry for the typo it should read DID NOT!! take notice...
Good, bad or indifferent opinion about her, she never gives up.
Realizing the eligibility has not been heard on the merits and her case in Santa Ana, California failed on standing and venue/location in front of Judge Carter, she is refiling to move the case to Washington D.C. and in front of the Presiding Judge there.
Read the filing motion at:
http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/12/motion-to-move-obama-eligibility-venue.html
Actually, the claim of polygamy isn’t really legit. He “married” the woman in Kenyan in a “tribal” ceremony which under British law (which it was at the time) is not a LEGALLY recognized marraige.
Can intelligence really be “taught”???
WISDOM may be gained, but wisdom is a quality that takes time and life experience to deveop. She may be receiving an EDUCATION, for being educated is something that requires teaching - even if one is self-taught. However, pure intelligence is something that is possessed. Being intelligent means having a higher than average mental CAPACITY. It is not something that can be TAUGHT, it is something you either have or don’t have.
Thanks for the Info. and ping! :)
There is some disagreement about whether or not the British Nationality Act of 1948 recognizes that marriage.
Oh I think it goes WELL BEYOND fraud. And I hope they all get MORE than just behind bars.
Obama has only had legal representation in 3 of the 60 or so cases.
I has been heard on merits, standing IS a merit. Her case does not have merit because it has no standing. As for her refiling of a dead, dismissed with prejudice case, I think the AG will give her two words, instead of the "nuts" from a prior responds and I doubt if they will "Merry Christmas"
. . . . Interesting.
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I’m sure 0bomba and his lawyers would be happy to be transparent with compensation figures for these cases just as they have will all of his records.
Your report of the expenditures shows that Obama has spent nearly as much since the election as McCain spent from the beginning of the election cycle. You don’t break down McCain’t post-election legal fees as you do Obama’s, so that is hardly a ‘comparison.’
Incurring legal fees of $1M over 22 months thru the election, and $1.3 over 8 months following the election is, at a minimum, interesting. How much of McCain’t $1.3M was post-election?
But let’s assume both had equal legal expenses for the primaries and general election, and post-election cleanup. Are you saying Obama expended only $900,000 on eligibility suits thru June 2009 for his private attorneys, compared to the $1.4 some have suggested?
The mere “half” you seem to speak of, incurred in a few short months, for private attorneys only, should be considered significant. I don’t know that you’re being emotional so much as deceptive by comparing apples and oranges.
Those were WND’s figures and comparisons from the reference in this thread, not mine. Take it up with them if you think it’s deceptive.
You can’t assume they had equal legal fees. There’s no documentation to support that claim.
Most does not equal half no matter what the numbers are.
What exactly is your point? You don’t know how much money Obama spent on eligibility lawsuits and neither do I.
We do know that McCain and Obama both had legal expenses post election. So we can come to the logical conclusion that Obama probably did not spend all of his post-election legal expenses on eligibility lawsuits. And that was the suggestion made to me. So clearly that’s an unsubstantiated claim.
HI birth certificates have no space for the child’s race, only that of each parent.
All/most/half ... so what? it was a barrel of money any way you wanna call it.
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