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Obama plans for health care delay, new jobs bill (WH anticipates health care talks to slip into Feb)
Politico ^ | 12/23/09 | MIKE ALLEN & ALEXANDER TROWBRIDGE

Posted on 12/23/2009 6:44:37 AM PST by Sub-Driver

Obama plans for health care delay, new jobs bill By: Mike Allen and Alexander Trowbridge December 23, 2009 09:25 AM EST

The White House privately anticipates health care talks to slip into February — past President Barack Obama’s first State of the Union address — and then plans to make a “very hard pivot” to a new jobs bill, according to senior administration officials.

Obama has been told that disputes over abortion and the tight schedule are highly likely to delay a final deal, a blow to the president who had hoped to trumpet a health care victory in his big speech to the nation. But he has also been told that House Democratic leaders seem inclined, at least for now, to largely accept the compromise worked out in the Senate, virtually assuring he will eventually get a deal.

Internally, White House aides are plunging into a 2010 plan calling for an early focus on creating jobs, especially in the energy sector, along with starting a conversation about deficit reduction measures, the administration officials said.

Both will be major themes for his first State of the Union speech, which will likely take place on Jan. 26 or Feb. 2. White House aides are in the early stages of planning for the national address, but Obama will not only trumpet what he has described as his “B-plus” performance in 2009 but also set the stage for the 2010 congressional campaigns.

Obama and Democrats seem in agreement that they want to minimize the number of tough votes moderates in their party must take in the aftermath of the health care debate.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


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To: zeebee
Some more rats left the sinking ship and they don’t have the 60 votes.

One can hope

21 posted on 12/23/2009 7:09:30 AM PST by GUNGAGALUNGA (Democratus Suckus Teatus is the Latin root for Democrat and it means to tax)
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To: zeebee
Some more rats left the sinking ship and they don’t have the 60 votes.

I think your analysis in on the money.

22 posted on 12/23/2009 7:12:07 AM PST by jersey117
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To: zeebee

They’ll only need 51 or 50 w/Biden breaking the tie, when it comes to the final bill.


23 posted on 12/23/2009 7:13:36 AM PST by dawn53
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To: zeebee
My translation:
Some more rats left the sinking ship and they don’t have the 60 votes.

Yep. The democrats are upset because the bribes weren't "equally shared". They all want their "freebies-in-exchange-for-a-vote", too.

24 posted on 12/23/2009 7:13:54 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Sub-Driver

Translation: Obama is neutered.

Doesn’t mean we can quit, but means we are winning.

Obama squandered his substantial political capital on the disastrous healthcare tyranny plan, which now amounts to a massive insurance company and trial lawyer subsidy, supported by taxes on the poor and middle class (i.e. forced insurance buying).

It will be amusing when the people figure out they have to pay, directly and dearly, for what they expected would be “free” government healthcare.


25 posted on 12/23/2009 7:18:04 AM PST by LikeLight (FReepin tweetz @StephenLBloom)
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To: jersey117

Some more rats left the sinking ship and they don’t have the 60 votes.

I think your analysis in on the money.
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I pray this is true. I am still calling my senators every day, even though I doubt I can change their minds.


26 posted on 12/23/2009 7:19:07 AM PST by ConjunctionJunction
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To: Sub-Driver

This is a bluff, IMHO.

We have been assured by pundits all along that there was no way the “health care” bill would have gotten this far, either in the House or the Senate. But they were wrong on that, and they’re wrong on this, too. It’s all a ploy to make us lose focus.


27 posted on 12/23/2009 7:23:33 AM PST by livius
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To: dawn53

I’m immediately skeptical of any information that comes out of this White House. What I don’t doubt however is that the internal polling must be REALLY ugly right now for Obama and the Democrats, so it is feasible that reality may be finally beginning to rear its ugly head with them. Perhaps they now believe it’s best to just ram this toxic sludge of a “health care” bill through on the “down low” the remainder of the way and refrain from trumpeting it so they might save themselves from a complete and total political annihilation next November.

Warped thinking to be sure, but interesting nonetheless...


28 posted on 12/23/2009 7:28:35 AM PST by DestroyLiberalism
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To: All
“....Obama and Democrats seem in agreement that they want to minimize the number of tough votes moderates in their party must take in the aftermath of the health care debate....“

If that is true... there goes any “Cap and trade” bill for 2010...

29 posted on 12/23/2009 7:29:59 AM PST by az_gila (AZ - need less democrats - one Governor down... more to go.)
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To: Sub-Driver

If the bill were to pass before the SOTU address, he would undoubtedly would sign it. As soon as he signs the bill, anyone affected by the bill would have standing to challenge the constitutionality of the bill - INCLUDING THE QUALIFICATIONS OF THE PRESIDENT TO HOLD OFFICE (birth certificate). If lawsuits are filed before the SOTU, the administration would have to answer the press’ questions regarding the suits.


30 posted on 12/23/2009 7:30:30 AM PST by Go Gordon (Obama - One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: LikeLight

Also, the Fox News website is now reporting how the big unions are very unhappy with many aspects of the current Obamacare legislation, including the “excise tax” on insurance companies which they correctly fear will hit the middle class hard.

Without big union support, Obama is neutered.


31 posted on 12/23/2009 7:34:46 AM PST by DestroyLiberalism
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To: az_gila

I actually do believe Cap and Trade is dead. I think Congress and the White House will spend the rest of their rapidly waning political capital in 2010 by trying to make one final suicidal push to force amnesty of illegal immigrants into law. That’s the hideously evil Democrat/Marixist party’s only remaining hope of trying to secure enough new voters to make the November 2010 races competitive.


32 posted on 12/23/2009 7:39:51 AM PST by DestroyLiberalism
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To: Sub-Driver
Ask them why they HATE Seniors, Veterans and retired Military!

local contact and fax numbers for Senators (demwits)

Email them but the Phone is the best route.

Remind them that obamanationcare effects EVERY ONE!

VA cuts, retired Military..Tri Care for Life (nearly $5,000 in new fees) 8% cut in Medicare, increased premiums, 15% cut to nursing homes and for Pete's sake why are we creating a new tax on special needs kids?

bill would REDUCE SENIOR Medicare

Health-Care Reform 2009

Report: Bill would reduce senior care Medicare cuts approved by House may affect access to providers

Lori Montgomery

Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, November 15, 2009

A plan to slash more than $500 billion from future Medicare spending -- one of the biggest sources of funding for President Obama's proposed overhaul of the nation's health-care system -- would sharply reduce benefits for some senior citizens and could jeopardize access to care for millions of others, according to a government evaluation released Saturday.

The report, requested by House Republicans, found that Medicare cuts contained in the health package approved by the House on Nov. 7 are likely to prove so costly to hospitals and nursing homes that they could stop taking Medicare altogether.

AND if you are Retired Military on Tri Care for Life, which many Millions are, you are in for a nearly $5,000 NEW fee along with the increased premiums for the REDUCED Medicare benefits.

bill would Introduce NEW nearly $5,000 fee to TRL

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.)
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

November 6, 2009 | Rep Buyer abd Rep McKeon bill would cut VA benefits http://www.vawatchdog.org/09/hcva09/hcva110609-1.htm

Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options

Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

33 posted on 12/23/2009 7:51:59 AM PST by GailA (JESUS is Christmas! Cradle in the shadow of a Cross)
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To: zeebee

I hope so as I don’t trust them.


34 posted on 12/23/2009 7:57:47 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: incredulous joe

With what obama seems to think he can print and spend, he could just federalize the entire US labor force.


35 posted on 12/23/2009 7:58:35 AM PST by silverleaf (More folks being invited to the White House for Holiday parties than are being sent to Afghanistan)
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To: massgopguy

the man thinks govt (with HIM in charge) can create jobs, control the climate, heal the sick, bring despots to the negotiating table with flowers

He can do everything .....

everything except overcome the effects of Bush ...the font of all evil in our society and the world (sarc)


36 posted on 12/23/2009 8:02:03 AM PST by silverleaf (More folks being invited to the White House for Holiday parties than are being sent to Afghanistan)
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To: concerned about politics

Operation Thrift?


37 posted on 12/23/2009 8:03:06 AM PST by silverleaf (More folks being invited to the White House for Holiday parties than are being sent to Afghanistan)
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To: Sub-Driver
Health Care Poll (Sanders - democrat site)
38 posted on 12/23/2009 8:03:14 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: DestroyLiberalism
I actually do believe Cap and Trade is dead. I think Congress and the White House will spend the rest of their rapidly waning political capital in 2010 by trying to make one final suicidal push to force amnesty of illegal immigrants into law.

We all know that a wounded enemy is the most dangerous. I am hoping they don't realize how badly they are hurt until it is too late, but it should be obvious.

They can't even pretend to write a "path to citizenship" bill unless it makes illegals "go to the back of the line," and since many legal immigrants have waiting times of 10 years or more, the amnestied illegals would not vote in 2010 or 2012. However, if by some miracle they did pass amnesty this year, it would be excruciatingly difficult to repeal because of BO's veto until at least 2012 and the courts.

39 posted on 12/23/2009 8:15:30 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Joe Wilson said "You lie!" in a room full of 500 politicians. Was he talking to only one person?)
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To: dawn53

It’s the opposite- he prob thinks he is unpopular because it has NOT passed yet.


40 posted on 12/23/2009 8:24:09 AM PST by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed Martin Luther King Jr.)
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