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Inconvenient truth for Al Gore as his North Pole sums don't add up ("fresh figures" yrs old)
Timesonline ^ | December 15, 2009

Posted on 12/14/2009 2:41:42 PM PST by maggief

There are many kinds of truth. Al Gore was poleaxed by an inconvenient one yesterday.

The former US Vice-President, who became an unlikely figurehead for the green movement after narrating the Oscar-winning documentary An Inconvenient Truth, became entangled in a new climate change “spin” row.

Mr Gore, speaking at the Copenhagen climate change summit, stated the latest research showed that the Arctic could be completely ice-free in five years.

In his speech, Mr Gore told the conference: “These figures are fresh. Some of the models suggest to Dr [Wieslav] Maslowski that there is a 75 per cent chance that the entire north polar ice cap, during the summer months, could be completely ice-free within five to seven years.”

However, the climatologist whose work Mr Gore was relying upon dropped the former Vice-President in the water with an icy blast.

“It’s unclear to me how this figure was arrived at,” Dr Maslowski said. “I would never try to estimate likelihood at anything as exact as this.”

Mr Gore’s office later admitted that the 75 per cent figure was one used by Dr Maslowksi as a “ballpark figure” several years ago in a conversation with Mr Gore.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: algore; climategate; globalwarming; gore
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Hockey Stick over Time - Narrated
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mxmo9DskYE


21 posted on 12/14/2009 2:57:23 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: maggief
From the Times article:
Richard Lindzen, a climate scientist at the Massachusets Institute of Technology who does not believe that global warming is largely caused by man, said: “He’s just extrapolated from 2007, when there was a big retreat, and got zero.”

You can see that 2007 was a year with less ice. But also see how the retreat is retreating!


22 posted on 12/14/2009 2:57:34 PM PST by CedarDave (FOX news:"Fair and balanced (no matter what the White House says) . We report because others won't.")
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To: maggief

23 posted on 12/14/2009 2:58:23 PM PST by maggief
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To: Plumberman27
Ouch !
24 posted on 12/14/2009 2:59:42 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: All

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrPCUWWjh0c&feature=player_embedded

December 13, 2008

Five Years. Mark it down. Al Gore spoke to a German audience this week at the opening of a dinosaur park. In this German news clip you can hear him talk about the polar ice cap disappearing in 5 ...
Five Years. Mark it down.
Al Gore spoke to a German audience this week at the opening of a dinosaur park. In this German news clip you can hear him talk about the polar ice cap disappearing in 5 YEARS!

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Warning from Gore on future - S.F. speech focuses on global warming
San Francisco Chronicle (CA) - Sunday, June 5, 2005
Author: Cecilia M. Vega, Chronicle Staff Writer

EXCERPT

In 15 years, Gore said , there will be no more glaciers on Mount Kilimanjaro. As for Glacier National Park in Montana, he said, “Within 20 years, this is the park that will be formerly known as Glacier.” And the Rhone Glacier in Switzerland “is almost completely gone,” he said.

//

GORE’S ENVIRONMENTAL STAKE - WHITE HOUSE STANCE ON GLOBAL WARMING COULD SERIOUSLY AFFECT POLITICAL CLIMATE TOO
Washington Post - Tuesday, October 21, 1997
Author: Joby Warrick, Washington Post Staff Writer
Al Gore was moving fast, as though the big glacier would melt before he reached it. With reporters puffing and wheezing in his wake, he scaled five miles of nearly vertical mountain trails to touch the ice and strike a symbolic blow against global warming.

“It’s melting right before our eyes,” the vice president observed as he stood above Grinnell Glacier , the great river of ice amid the jagged peaks of Glacier National Park. Another 30 years of warming will reduce Grinnell to a dirty puddle, Gore said — and future tourists will have to settle for “the park formerly known as Glacier .”

(snip)


25 posted on 12/14/2009 3:07:16 PM PST by maggief
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To: maggief

In other words, global warming will actually be here two days before the day after tomorrow. Oh my God, that is...........TODAY


26 posted on 12/14/2009 3:07:48 PM PST by 12chachacha
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To: maggief


Al Gore - Supremus Idiotus


27 posted on 12/14/2009 3:11:57 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Socialism is hip until somebody loses a paycheck)
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To: maggief
Al Gore -- The LIAR King


28 posted on 12/14/2009 3:17:22 PM PST by Juan Medén
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To: Star Traveler

” That may very well be true about the polar ice caps. There’s actually no disputing that there’s been “Global Warming” over the last many decades. “

COMPLETE, UTTER BS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Evidently, you never looked at what actually happened to the Arctic ice after Al Gore threatened that the Northwest Passage was going to reopen. The ice got noticeably larger and thicker, and there was ABSOLUTELY NO CORRELATION TO HIS PREDICTIONS. THEY WERE AND ARE FALSE, FALSE, FALSE. Just LOOK at the damn EVIDENCE!!!!!!!!!

THE WORLD HAS NOT BEEN WARMING FOR THE PAST MANY DECADES; IT HAS BEEN COOLING FOR THE LAST TEN. AND YOU CAN’T FOOL US ANYMORE, YOU LYING BASTARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


29 posted on 12/14/2009 3:18:23 PM PST by Humble Servant (see y'all in the Gulag.)
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Well, that’s what Lord Monckton says, in that he believes the figures which are presented showing that there is Global Warming. And I would agree with Lord Monckton. There’s been Global Warming in the past and there’s no reason why there can’t be Global Warming in the future either.

The thing that he disputes (and likewise with me) is that there is no case for “Anthropogenic Global Warming”...


30 posted on 12/14/2009 3:22:48 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: maggief

The Best of Al Bore:

"The Polar Ice Cap Will Be GONE in 5 Years!"

Click on the image below to see Al Gore claim that the ice cap will vanish in five years!

(It will not. It is thicker and larger than ever.)


"The center of the Earth is millions of degrees..."

The center of the earth is estimated to actually be between only 4,000 and 7,000 degrees.

:)

31 posted on 12/14/2009 3:27:03 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: maggief
Even Lord Monckton, whom many FReepers quote here, says that he believes that "Global Warming" is a fact and it is happening. He says he does not dispute those who say that Global Warming is happening.

Actually, Monckton has said on many recent videos that there has been no warming for 15 years.

32 posted on 12/14/2009 3:28:17 PM PST by Maceman
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To: maggief
listen... warming, cooling, it was 50/50. so i took a shot!!!

Ohh WOE is me... whys everybody pickin on me???

33 posted on 12/14/2009 3:31:08 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Star Traveler

You are wrong about what Lord Monckton says. Lord Monckton says we have always had climate change and for 9 years it is getting cooler. You are making stuff up.


34 posted on 12/14/2009 3:38:02 PM PST by poodle
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You were saying ...

You are wrong about what Lord Monckton says. Lord Monckton says we have always had climate change and for 9 years it is getting cooler. You are making stuff up.

Nope, not making it up. It's in his video that he sells, right along with the other video documentary that I presented (The Great Global Warming Swindle). Lord Monckton is selling both of those on a website that he references.

The video that he made and sells, says this very thing... that I just said. He says that he does not dispute that Global Warming has been happening. He makes a point of saying that he does not believe the "Anthropogenic Global Warming" is happening.

It's right on the video that I have from him... :-)

The video is sold here... and is made and produced by Lord Monckton...

GreatSwindle.com

I viewed it again, last night, and that's exactly what Lord Monckton says... You're more than welcome to verify that yourself any time you want... :-)

35 posted on 12/14/2009 3:44:42 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: maggief

Hide the Decline for Global Goring.

Pray for America and Gov Palin


36 posted on 12/14/2009 3:46:44 PM PST by bray (Palin can see the White House from her Porch)
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To: Maceman
You were saying ...

Actually, Monckton has said on many recent videos that there has been no warming for 15 years.

Lord Monckton's own video that he produces and sells, says that right in it. He's got it on this page to sell if you want to view it. You'll see him say it there... anyone can verify it... :-)

GreatSwindle.com

I just saw it again last night and I can affirm that once more. But, please..., do look for yourself and see what he says...

37 posted on 12/14/2009 3:47:39 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: maggief

“Inconvenient truth’ for the “inglourious basterd”...


38 posted on 12/14/2009 3:51:23 PM PST by citizencon
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To: poodle; Star Traveler
You are making stuff up.
On a video posted on youtube on December 12, he says at least 2x that we haven't had warming for 15 years.
39 posted on 12/14/2009 3:53:46 PM PST by eastsider
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You were saying ...

On a video posted on youtube on December 12, he says at least 2x that we haven't had warming for 15 years.

And I just gave you a video, and the reference for getting that video (which I have) -- which he makes and sells himself where he says that he agrees with those who say that we have had Global Warming and he does not dispute that. He says he disputes "Anthropogenic Global Warming"...

You may want to write to Lord Monckton and ask him if he goes by the one statement or the other... :-)

40 posted on 12/14/2009 3:57:20 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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