Posted on 12/01/2009 7:43:51 PM PST by Bigtigermike
Three months ago, I joined a number of Americans in urging President Obama to provide the resources necessary to achieve our goals in Afghanistan. Tonight, I am glad he mostly heeded that advice........
What commitment is that?
When did a commitment to politics overcome a commitment to one's family? And what is wrong with the Lieutenant Governor who is currently running Alaska?
“and then uses the new-found time for profit is a bit of a problem for me, in a ‘character counts’ way”
How touching.
You forgot to mention the little matter of the crippling legal bills that were ruining her family's finances.
Say, if you have such a problem with anyone working hard to write a book in a record 4 months, selling the book in huge numbers, paying down her legal bills and debts, and horror of horrors, actually making a profit(I know, I know. The word “profit” is taboo word to you, but ok), say, why don't you move to North Korea?
You are an ignorant ass that cannot read, I gave you the dates of my military service, dumass, I was in security command following orders something you are two damn dumb to understand.
While I agree with you whole-heartedly, you know there is no political will nor will the bleeding-heart liberals stand for such drastic action. You are a vet, you saw the crap we went through trying to fight a military war under political terms. It just isn’t going to happen, if it were up to me the idea of Afghanistan and glass seem to have a beautiful ring to it.
Further, these guys are illiterate have-nots that desire death more than life, and if you look at their standard of living, can you blame them? There is no one good answer to this but bombing a 17th century culture back to the 16th century doesn’t look like a big change.
I don't pay mind to what comes out of dog's poop.
“gave you the dates of my military service, dumass,”
You did huh?
When was that?
And it's “dumbass” to you, dumbass!
” I was in security command following orders “
I bet you were too...and you had a pretty exciting adventure in Afghanistan too while you were about it I am sure.
“Conservatives will rant and rave about how dishonest Obama is, but are going to walk lockstep when he claims he is going to win the war and destroy Al Quada.”
Let the democrats be hypocrits. If Mr. Obama will properly allow General McCrystal to prosecute this war...I will most definitely “mute” my critism. I don’t want Mr. Obama and POTUS, but as long as I don’t see direct evidence of him hurting the military....I salute smartly, shut up, and help get the job done. I’m still not going to vote for in the next election.....but I’m putting the welfare of soldiers ahead of politics.
The bottom line is that we cannot just leave Afganistan. If it falls back into Taliban hands they will be emboddened and continue to harras Pakistan where there are nuclear weapons to seize. We cannot allow Pakistan to fall into Taliban or any other Islamic extremist’s hands.
So, we fight for control of Afghanistan.....even if the current POTUS is not the person that should be POTUS.
On this particuliar issue, I want Mr. Obama to succeed to stopping the Taliban. Like I said, I will not put politics ahead of military lives and national security.
Oh, I’m well aware of it !! lol ! Liz Cheney had a much more succinct and straight-to-the-point response to Obama’s Afghanistan war strategy here:
http://www.keepamericasafe.com/?p=613
Palin sounded too pragmatic and, dare I say, like a politician.
Once again stupid, I was in Pakistani I visited Afghanistan, if you had the brain of a gnat you would know we had no bases in Afghanistan.
Wednesday, December 02, 2009 5:02:21 PM · 297 of 307
org.whodat to SmokingJoe
“Unlike you I’ve been to Afghanistan and Pakistan”
Was that post by yoou or not Mr Dog's Poop?
She’s not a neo-con OK?
I didn’t say she was a neocon. I said her foreign policy was out of neocon central casting. On domestic
issues, she is not a neocon at all but rather a fairly standard conservative with some libertarian tendencies. On foreign policy, however, I can’t think of a single difference she was with Kristol and company. If you can name one, I’d love to know what it is.
Let the democrats be hypocrits. If Mr. Obama will properly allow General McCrystal to prosecute this war...I will most definitely “mute” my critism. I don’t want Mr. Obama and POTUS, but as long as I don’t see direct evidence of him hurting the military....I salute smartly, shut up, and help get the job done. I’m still not going to vote for in the next election.....but I’m putting the welfare of soldiers ahead of politics.
You haven't seen any direct evidence of Obama hurting the military?
And putting SEALS on trial is what?
Yes, the claim of 'putting the welfare of the soldiers ahead of politics' will be the mantra over the next two years, by conservatives who don't have the courage to attack no win wars.
The bottom line is that we cannot just leave Afganistan. If it falls back into Taliban hands they will be emboddened and continue to harras Pakistan where there are nuclear weapons to seize. We cannot allow Pakistan to fall into Taliban or any other Islamic extremist’s hands.
'We cannot let this happen and we cannot allow that to happen', well, Obama's actions aren't going to stop either and you know that very well as does Palin.
So, we fight for control of Afghanistan.....even if the current POTUS is not the person that should be POTUS.
Adding 30,000 troops isn't fighting for control of anything.
But you keep your rose colored glasses on.
On this particuliar issue, I want Mr. Obama to succeed to stopping the Taliban. Like I said, I will not put politics ahead of military lives and national security.
Obama has already put politics ahead of national security, but Republicans will get in line with him and let him get away with it.
You think you know. But then a deranged mind will think that way anyways wouldn't it?
Well that is something you should give serious thought to.
“I know that the law bills can be paid for when she left office and then she could have raised money from conservatives to help her. “
You don't know anything of the kind. Lawyers are under no obligation to go without pay for 2 years, while they do hard work for someone, and wait for their money based on vague promises of payment in the future by indeterminate conservatives some time in the future.
Lawyers can and DO demand payment for work done, as and when done. You don't know if her lawyers were demanding payment, and how much she was paying them from her salary every month, and how tight her family budget was getting. And that was just for starters. Her legal bills were only going to get a heck of a lot bigger.
My goodness, was she on the verge of starvation?
Was she going to be evicted from the Governors mansion?
Try selling this in three years and see where it goes.
“Then she shouldn't have run for Governor and she shouldn't run for President. “
Only those that don't love their families should run for office huh? No surprise this country is so screwed up.
No only those who are willing to assume the responsibilities of office should run.
“And you think that Palin’s children would have been starving or homeless?”
Nice attempt at changing the subject.
No one changed anything.
That is the excuse you are giving, that her family was going to suffer horrible loss if she remained Governor.
No can do. The point I made was, the Soros financed lawyers had filed lawsuits top stop her from taking money from any other political sources to pay her legal bills. You has no answer to that one did ya?
She had legal council and won all the lawsuits.
So, there is nothing to answer.
The question she is going to answer is why she quit, and you haven't given a good answer yet, except the lame excuse that she was going to be made 'destitute' by the lawsuits.
When did one have to wait till one's family is starving before taking action to remedy one's dire financial situation?
“Was she going to be evicted from the Governors mansion?”
Does the government pay for your food, baby diapers, children's school uniforms and school fees and books, and your family's living expenses? Exactly how do you propose to pay for all your family expenses when your legals bills are running at twice what you make per month, and your lawyers are deman ding payment?
“Try selling this in three years and see where it goes.”
She is telling her story now in her book, and it's going very, very well with the American people despite your best efforts, thank you.
“No only those who are willing to assume the responsibilities of office should run.”
She assumed more responsibilities of office, and did more as Governor of Alaska, tan 0bozo did in his entire stint in the s senate. He spent more time campaigning that doing anything else.
its not how long you spend at a place that counts. its what you achieve during the period. Get it?
“No one changed anything.” You did.
“That is the excuse you are giving, that her family was going to suffer horrible loss if she remained Governor.”
Its not my excuse.
It happens to be a matter of record.
“The question she is going to answer is why she quit, “
She's alreday covered that in her book.
and guess what? The American people agree with her. Look at her poll numbers since her book came out.
Not only are bottom feeding ankle biters like you vastly outnumbered on Freerepublic, you are outnumbered amongst Republicans as a whole (where Sarah has 76% favorables), even amongst independents, she is pollimg the same as 0bama.
“and you haven't given a good answer yet, except the lame excuse that she was going to be made ‘destitute’ by the lawsuits.”
You are yet to come up with even one valid line of attack against Sarah Palin. All we get from is is empty headed, vacuous mush from your deranged mind.
And guess what?
What you think is about as relevant as that of any worm in my back yard.
Like I keep telling you, YOU don;t count.
You can't even convince many people here at FR to back you, let alone amongst the Republican body politic, where Sarah Palin currently out-polls every Republican politician.
Ankle biters of your kind are losing big time, and are getting CRUSHED but good!
Spin, nothing but.
Throw bombs and bottom feed, nothing but.
First buy a dictionary and find out what pragmatic means.
Second, you are aware that she is going to run for political office??? When running for office, one is well advised to speak cautiously, especially if one is a conservative.
“And putting SEALS on trial is what?”
“Yes, the claim of ‘putting the welfare of the soldiers ahead of politics’ will be the mantra over the next two years, by conservatives who don’t have the courage to attack no win wars.”
Listen Beetle Bailey, I don’t take guff from an arm chair generals wannabee - and don’t question my courage. I’m still a serving commissioned officer in the Army Reserve and work for the Army as a civilian. My knowledge of the current battlefield is limited, but I am most certain it is better than yours. I’m surrounded by active duty soldiers that have just returned from the Afghanistan front and I speak with them constantly at length. You don’t know squat about what you talk about and need to put a cork in it.
General McCrystal is an honorable man and has a very sound course of action for Afghanistan. From what I see thus far, POTUS Obama is giving him most of what he needs; NO general ever gets entirely what he wants. While President Obama is not my choice for CiC...the fact remains he is. My oath to the constitution does not allow me to dictate to my superiors how they are going to run the war. It would indeed be a violation of trust the country has placed in me to keep faith with my superiors and the political leaders WE MUST remain subordinate to. YOU DO NOT want a junta....they are wrong. Like I told you, and get it through your thick skull, it is NOT my place to bad mouth a general or POTUS when acting as an officer. For that matter even when functioning as a civilian. My officer’s commission, although reserve, runs 24/7.
You are coming close to inciting insurrection....that is treason.....it is NEVER right in our system of government. You need to stop it right now....you will hurt our troops in the field. STOP putting your politics ahead of your patrotism. You need to develop a little faith that things WILL ultimately work out. However, attempting to destroy a POTUS (even one you don’t like) when he is actually doing something in the right directiion...is counterproductive.
Regarding the Navy Seals. I wasn’t there and don’t know what happened...neither do you. I will tell you this...Seals and other Special OPS types are the elite of the Armed Forces. They have NO right to express personal anger in regards to a prisoner anymore than a policeman does. If they lack that professionalism that calls for a higher standard of demeanor, they don’t belong as Seals or Special OPS. You have been watching too many Arnold Schwartzenegger or Bruce Willis movies. In the real world that crap doesn’t fly. Once it does, you no longer have a military force, you have a rabble with weapons. The discipline of the service has to be upheld. While I sympathize with these Seals, I also realized that IF they are found guilty in a proper military court...then they must face the consequences. The military carries out what civil authority directs.....change that and you have a rabble with weapons and not an army. That kind of poor discipline spreads like a cancer and will destroy a military force’s ability to wage effective war.
Do I like the Rules of Engagement placed upon our troops in Afghanistan...NO or course not. However, once again, I may express my displeasure through the chain of command, but if I act unilaterally to disregard them...I AM just a criminal wearing a uniform. A military must be disciplined and follow orders as directed. It isn’t always pleasant...but war is never pleasant.
“But you keep your rose colored glasses on.”
BTW Beetle Bailey - I am acutely aware of the seriousness of the situation and DO NOT see the world as rainbows and unicorns. In the military we use what we are given. President Obama’s actions aren’t as much as I, or General McCrystal would desire, but they are a step in the right direction.
I would suggest to you that you obtain some glasses, but it seems apparent to me that you are a blind fool...so blinded by partisan hate that you would endanger the country just to hasten the downfall of a POTUS. That makes you very, very bad. If you were under my command and I found out you were spreading such dissention...I’d courts-martial you in a heartbeat. Not because I approve of the current POTUS, but because you seriously have broke the rules of military deportment.
bttt
Like how she had to do the Little Katie Couric interview because one of her handlers is a close personal friend of Little Katie Couric?
I was fascinated when I watched the re-runs on CSPAN of the Alaska Governor debates, because she conveyed such gravitas and no-nonsense intelligence back then, before Romneys friends who became McCain advisors told her what to do, say, dress, etc, to NOT be herself. So I've not heard directly from her, say, anything about Iran, for instance -- but I may have missed it in the press.
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