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To: fortheDeclaration; All

“And putting SEALS on trial is what?”

“Yes, the claim of ‘putting the welfare of the soldiers ahead of politics’ will be the mantra over the next two years, by conservatives who don’t have the courage to attack no win wars.”

Listen Beetle Bailey, I don’t take guff from an arm chair generals wannabee - and don’t question my courage. I’m still a serving commissioned officer in the Army Reserve and work for the Army as a civilian. My knowledge of the current battlefield is limited, but I am most certain it is better than yours. I’m surrounded by active duty soldiers that have just returned from the Afghanistan front and I speak with them constantly at length. You don’t know squat about what you talk about and need to put a cork in it.

General McCrystal is an honorable man and has a very sound course of action for Afghanistan. From what I see thus far, POTUS Obama is giving him most of what he needs; NO general ever gets entirely what he wants. While President Obama is not my choice for CiC...the fact remains he is. My oath to the constitution does not allow me to dictate to my superiors how they are going to run the war. It would indeed be a violation of trust the country has placed in me to keep faith with my superiors and the political leaders WE MUST remain subordinate to. YOU DO NOT want a junta....they are wrong. Like I told you, and get it through your thick skull, it is NOT my place to bad mouth a general or POTUS when acting as an officer. For that matter even when functioning as a civilian. My officer’s commission, although reserve, runs 24/7.

You are coming close to inciting insurrection....that is treason.....it is NEVER right in our system of government. You need to stop it right now....you will hurt our troops in the field. STOP putting your politics ahead of your patrotism. You need to develop a little faith that things WILL ultimately work out. However, attempting to destroy a POTUS (even one you don’t like) when he is actually doing something in the right directiion...is counterproductive.

Regarding the Navy Seals. I wasn’t there and don’t know what happened...neither do you. I will tell you this...Seals and other Special OPS types are the elite of the Armed Forces. They have NO right to express personal anger in regards to a prisoner anymore than a policeman does. If they lack that professionalism that calls for a higher standard of demeanor, they don’t belong as Seals or Special OPS. You have been watching too many Arnold Schwartzenegger or Bruce Willis movies. In the real world that crap doesn’t fly. Once it does, you no longer have a military force, you have a rabble with weapons. The discipline of the service has to be upheld. While I sympathize with these Seals, I also realized that IF they are found guilty in a proper military court...then they must face the consequences. The military carries out what civil authority directs.....change that and you have a rabble with weapons and not an army. That kind of poor discipline spreads like a cancer and will destroy a military force’s ability to wage effective war.

Do I like the Rules of Engagement placed upon our troops in Afghanistan...NO or course not. However, once again, I may express my displeasure through the chain of command, but if I act unilaterally to disregard them...I AM just a criminal wearing a uniform. A military must be disciplined and follow orders as directed. It isn’t always pleasant...but war is never pleasant.


317 posted on 12/02/2009 4:42:35 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas
Regarding the Navy Seals. I wasn’t there and don’t know what happened...neither do you

I know that they were capturing TERRORISTS.

And the above comment says all that needs to be said about you.

333 posted on 12/03/2009 7:21:11 AM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: Sola Veritas
You are coming close to inciting insurrection....that is treason.....it is NEVER right in our system of government. You need to stop it right now....you will hurt our troops in the field. STOP putting your politics ahead of your patrotism. You need to develop a little faith that things WILL ultimately work out. However, attempting to destroy a POTUS (even one you don’t like) when he is actually doing something in the right directiion...is counterproductive.

This is the United States of America, not Nazi Germany.

The responsiblity of the citizens is to question the use of American troops and it is Congress responsiblity to make sure that they are used for the right reasons.

Sending anymore troops to Afgan. is nothing more then wasting more U.S. lives.

You keep your 'faith' in Obama.

334 posted on 12/03/2009 7:24:08 AM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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