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Obama in a Bind Over Country of Birth
News Blaze ^ | November 25, 2009 | Alan Gray

Posted on 11/25/2009 6:15:50 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

President Obama is in a fix over his country of birth.

The President started to dig the hole as Senate candidate and now he is president, the hole is getting deeper and uglier, mainly because of his evasive actions. Many Democrat supporters are either ignoring the problem or are vehemently attacking "birthers" who question the President's eligibility.

Republicans are not the only ones concerned about his eligibility. Libertarians, independents, constitutionalists and even democrats are wondering why Obama is fighting so hard to hide his origin.

Unfortunately, Obama dug the hole himself, and like a hole created when a water main leaks and then bursts, the hole is expanding day by day and as it does, the fallout is increasing.

The President and his legal teams have done everything in their power to prevent anyone from accessing his real birth certificate, if he has one, but there are other lines of investigation they cannot block.

During his campaign for the Senate, he and his team touted his Kenyan birth, possibly because it made him more appealing to the voters they needed. Unfortunately, admitting to his birth in Kenya makes him ineligible for the Presidency.

So the question now is, was he really born in Kenya and he told the truth in the Senate campaign, or was he really born in Hawaii, and the Kenya story was a lie, used to deceive Illinois voters.

Obama can't have it both ways. The answer to this question will be interesting!

Of course, he could say the campaign and the reporters all got it wrong, but it will be interesting to follow the trail on this investigation and discover the sources for the AP story that documents the apparent fact that Obama was Kenyan born.

If it wasn't the truth back then, why didn't he stop the campaign using that information and why didn't he make the AP issue a retraction?

Obama supporters who say it is nobody's business, need to take a step back, imagine the president is George Bush and ask themselves the same question they should ask now. "Is it OK for the President to hide his origin and what are his motives for doing it?"

I want there to be a simple, truthful answer to these questions, but I have a strange feeling the answer is not what any of his supporters wants to hear.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; constitution; hoax; ineligible; kenyabelieveit; kenyanborn; notpresident; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; soetoro; treason; unconstitutional
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To: al baby
I think he is gonna crack up before this is over and be led from the white house by men in lab coats and be taken to trembling hills for the remaider of his useless and pathetic life

I remember that being forecast for Bubba but it never happened
81 posted on 11/25/2009 8:17:01 PM PST by uncbob
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To: TigersEye
Wikipedia isn't my favorite source, but it has a bunch of other sources linked on the topic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_born_citizen_of_the_United_States

Please. Show me the *relevant* section that shows Obama is not a natural-born citizen.

I agree that he plainly would not be if he were born outside the U.S. That's not even debatable.

However, if he were born in Hawaii, please show me where he is not a NBC.

82 posted on 11/25/2009 8:18:06 PM PST by Saab-driving Yuppie
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To: Saab-driving Yuppie

This has been hashed and rehashed on FR so many times. Give it a rest, Obot.


83 posted on 11/25/2009 8:20:33 PM PST by TigersEye (Sarah Palin 2010 - We Can't Afford To Wait)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Sorry, but one you have a birth certificate showing you're born in the U.S.A., you are a natural-born citizen. You need not be naturalized.

I don't agree with it, but that's the law, regardless of who it was written for.

Perhaps we should change the law, but it's too late for Obama.

84 posted on 11/25/2009 8:21:02 PM PST by Saab-driving Yuppie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Regarding citation of his touting Kenyan birth during his senate campaign...

In the last month here on FR, an article was posted, with a link to a newspaper story from the senate race.

The title of the newspaper story was something like
“Kenyan-Born Obama to Become Illinois Senator”

I looked for the link on my favorites list, but I must have deleted it.

I did however, snail mail the article to The White Hut.


85 posted on 11/25/2009 8:21:05 PM PST by TheConservativeParty (Take back the GOP-RNC. Apply RINO-B-GONE as needed.)
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To: Saab-driving Yuppie

Natural born citizens are born of U.S. citizen parents on United States soil or territories. Period. Give it a rest.


86 posted on 11/25/2009 8:21:24 PM PST by Lower55
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To: TigersEye
This has been hashed and rehashed on FR so many times. Give it a rest, Obot.

You'd never call me an Obot if you looked at my previous posts.

This BC thing is a total waste of time at this point. So many people had so many years to look into this and came up empty-handed.

If you and all the others hapring on this had spent 1% of your time that I did working on behalf of the McCain campaign, Obama would still be the junior senator from Illinois.

Thanks.

87 posted on 11/25/2009 8:23:13 PM PST by Saab-driving Yuppie
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To: al baby

I’d be happy with him out of office.

Let’s remember he DOES have kids and whacko Marxist liberal or not, it’s not the best thing in the world to wish for MORE kids to grow up fatherless.

Agreed?


88 posted on 11/25/2009 8:23:22 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Fides et Audax)
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To: ricks_place

The ANT-25 flight,,, pride of the USSR in 1937 flew over the city of Eugene, Oregon. They found they were short of fuel and turned back for the military airbase at Vancouver,[2] landing at Pearson airfield.[3] (by the other sources – *********Barak Airfield***********

The “other” source was a Soviet aviation magazine from the 1960s.

This is right across the border from where Ann Dunhams family lived. They were true communists and were undoubtedly aware of the only time Soviets made a record breaking flight to the area,,, and landed at BARAK airfield. Obama is a Canadian. I think you nailed it.


89 posted on 11/25/2009 8:23:22 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs earn thi title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It sure seems like the problem should be fixed by now. The most powerful man in the world, with hundreds of billions of dollars in slush fund money should be able to fix a birth certificate. How hard could it be?


90 posted on 11/25/2009 8:23:55 PM PST by pallis
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To: Lower55

The parents must BOTH be US citizens to bear a natural born citizen.

Obama is not a natural born citizen.

He knows it.

Noone seems to know what to do about it.


91 posted on 11/25/2009 8:24:22 PM PST by Lower55
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To: Lower55
Natural born citizens are born of U.S. citizen parents on United States soil or territories. Period. Give it a rest.

Amazing that no one seeking the Democratic nomination tried your legal theory in court.

92 posted on 11/25/2009 8:24:45 PM PST by Saab-driving Yuppie
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To: Saab-driving Yuppie
you have a birth certificate showing you're born in the U.S.A., you are a natural-born citizen.

Well he doesn't have that either does he.

93 posted on 11/25/2009 8:24:54 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, nothing more than bald haired hippies.)
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To: Saab-driving Yuppie
Sorry, but one you have a birth certificate showing you're born in the U.S.A., you are a natural-born citizen.

It's strange that you now use that as your argument after all of the false premises you put out there in post #70 flopped. If this was the real argument why didn't you use that first?

94 posted on 11/25/2009 8:25:21 PM PST by TigersEye (Sarah Palin 2010 - We Can't Afford To Wait)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Does anyone have any of this senate campaign info, brochures, fliers, caches of web sites, that show his admitting to a Kenyan birth? I can’t imagine it wouldn’t have come forward by now.


95 posted on 11/25/2009 8:28:41 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: TigersEye
Sorry, but one you have a birth certificate showing you're born in the U.S.A., you are a natural-born citizen. It's strange that you now use that as your argument after all of the false premises you put out there in post #70 flopped. If this was the real argument why didn't you use that first?

Hmm... I went back and looked at 70. That's the one where I go back to my great-grandmother, right?

I told that story to make a point.

It's a point that's held up and nothing you or anyone else has said in response refutes it.

Please. People talking on here amongst themselves about his eligibility is totally useless.

96 posted on 11/25/2009 8:31:17 PM PST by Saab-driving Yuppie
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To: Saab-driving Yuppie
If you and all the others hapring on this had spent 1% of your time that I did working on behalf of the McCain campaign...

Oh please. I'd rather have Obama...at least he guarantees us volumes GOP opportunities for the return of DC.

McLame is a worthless hateful RINO POS who threw the election and consequently gave us Obama, and for that I guess I thank him.

If he had won, he would have guaranteed a democrat backlash and dominion for a century.

I think it's about time for you to go to bed Junior.

97 posted on 11/25/2009 8:32:17 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, nothing more than bald haired hippies.)
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To: Saab-driving Yuppie
LOL You can be darned sure I didn't work on the McCain campaign. Few people worked harder, on FR, to prevent McCain from becoming the nominee in the first place. McCain's Record I have a much longer version now but I'll spare this thread the posting of it.
98 posted on 11/25/2009 8:34:57 PM PST by TigersEye (Sarah Palin 2010 - We Can't Afford To Wait)
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To: Saab-driving Yuppie

Everything you wanted to know about natural born vs citizen

http://www.thebirthers.org/misc/logic.htm


99 posted on 11/25/2009 8:35:01 PM PST by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Why the personal attacks?

Time to go to bed?

Junior?

Oh, yeah, you had to resort to personal attacks without knowing a single thing about me because you have no facts.

What's next, something about being in my mother's basement? Some psychoanalysis? Assumptions about my employment? The other 7/8 of my ancestry?

I'd like to explore a sort of what-if scenario discussion about what would happen next if ineligibility were all somehow proven to be true, but some of the absolutists on here would think that I was giving in or admitting defeat.

100 posted on 11/25/2009 8:36:25 PM PST by Saab-driving Yuppie
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