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Climate czar says e-mails don't change anything
Washington Times ^ | 11/25/2009 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 11/25/2009 10:57:42 AM PST by markomalley

Obama climate czar Carol Browner on Wednesday rejected the e-mails that appear to show some British climate scientists trumped up global warming numbers, saying she considers the science settled.

"I'm sticking with the 2,500 scientists. These people have been studying this issue for a very long time and agree this problem is real," said Ms. Browner, who President Obama has tapped as his chief of policy on global warming.

The e-mails were hacked from the Climate Research Unit at the University of Wast Anglia and have come to light over the last week. They appear to show scientists saying they've smoothed over data that doesn't back up their claims of warming, and pondering how to freeze out scientists who disagree with them.

Release of the e-mails has fueled skeptics ahead of next month's major global warming meeting in Copenhagen, which is supposed to set the framework for a new global treaty to restrict greenhouse gas emissions.

The White House said Wednesday that Mr. Obama will personally travel to Copenhagen to commit the U.S. to greenhouse gas reductions.

But the data remains a point of debate, with skeptics pointing to several data sets that show the last few years have actually seen a cooling effect.

Sen. James Inhofe, Oklahoma Republican, has called for an investigation into the e-mails, and says they confirm his long-held suspicion that climate claims are not supported by the actual data.

Ms. Browner, though, said the only people who still doubt global warming is happening and that humans are to blame are "a very small group of people who continue to say this isn't a real problem, that we don't need to do anything."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: browner; climategate; fakebutaccurate; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; gorebullwarming; junkscience; planetgore
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To: markomalley
Scientists rely on data to make their judgments, if the data is purposely incomplete or has been falsified... then all assumptions based on that data are faulty.

Basically here is what happened. Environment science programs have been attracting left wing tree huggers for decades, these left wing ideologues have been purposely manipulating the data they collect to push their environmental agenda.

Is it as simple as that.

Scientists didn't take those data samples, green peace did.

81 posted on 11/25/2009 12:03:46 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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To: markomalley

Stop confusing me with the FACTS!!!

Seriously...these overgrown adolescents will never appreciate how hard reality is set to kick them...


82 posted on 11/25/2009 12:04:30 PM PST by mo
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To: SeekAndFind; hoe_cake
FWIW, the article is old and I don’t know about the validity of the petition:  More Than 15,000 Scientists Protest Kyoto Accord; Speak Out Against Global Warming Myth 
83 posted on 11/25/2009 12:09:33 PM PST by TankerKC (You need to lock it up, Major...)
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To: markomalley

“”But if we don’t understand what is natural, I don’t think we can say much about what the humans are doing. So our interest is to understand — first the natural variability of climate — and then take it from there. So we were very excited when we realized a lot of changes in the past century from warmer to cooler and then back to warmer were all natural,” Tsonis said.”

http://www.wisn.com/weather/18935841/detail.html


84 posted on 11/25/2009 12:10:43 PM PST by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: TankerKC

Yes, thanks for searching!


85 posted on 11/25/2009 12:11:58 PM PST by hoe_cake (A member of the Society of the Descendants of the Signers of the Constitution.)
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To: ladyvet
Paging Dan Rather......

What's the temperature, Kenneth Carol?

86 posted on 11/25/2009 12:14:18 PM PST by Disambiguator
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To: pissant

Worldwide.


87 posted on 11/25/2009 12:23:02 PM PST by devistate one four (Back by popular demand: America love or leave it (GTFOOMC) TET68)
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To: MrB

Copy that Mr. B


88 posted on 11/25/2009 12:24:52 PM PST by devistate one four (Back by popular demand: America love or leave it (GTFOOMC) TET68)
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To: markomalley

“Update: It has become fairly obvious this archive was not “hacked” or “stolen” but rather is a file assembled by CRU staff in preparation for complying with a freedom of information request. Whether it was carelessly left in a publicly accessible portion of the CRU computer system or was “leaked” by staff believing the FOIA request was improperly rejected may never be known but is not really that important. What is important is that:

1.There was no “security breach” at CRU that “stole” these files
2.The files appear genuine and to have been prepared by CRU staff, not edited by malicious hackers
3.The information was accidentally or deliberately released by CRU staff
4.Selection criteria appears to be compliance with an or several FOIA request(s)”

http://www.junkscience.com/


89 posted on 11/25/2009 12:26:50 PM PST by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: markomalley

Similar situation to when I stole my then wife’s web e-mail password and hacked into messages when I suspected she was having an affair. . . for the 2nd time. What an awful, awful person I was! But I confirmed what I suspected.

In order to catch despicable liars and cheats, sometimes you have to lie and cheat a little. In the end, my ex turned out to be an adulterer and I finally was able to choose the correct, and informed, course of action. Likewise, we now know the truth about the fraud and criminal enterprise of the climate change industry and we can take an informed, correct course of action. Defeat climate change legislation, drill for oil, issue coal permits, scuttle ethynol subsidies, gut the EPA and Department of Energy, prosecute Al Gore and his climate control conspirators. Nothing short of blood and heads rolling in the street will satisfy me to punish these evil people.


90 posted on 11/25/2009 12:44:04 PM PST by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: markomalley
Obama seems to have the same instincts as Browner. To paraphrase Admiral Faragut, "Damn the facts, full speed ahead." Obama made his decision to go to Copenhagen after the debunking e-mails got released. Terrible decision-making. What else is new?

Congressman Billybob

Don't Tread On Me (9/12 photo and poster"

"ACLU Wants Terrorists to Beat the Rap"

91 posted on 11/25/2009 12:52:32 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.TheseAretheTimes.us)
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To: hoe_cake

Europe is in a tizzy about this. They are living globull warming crap. The US won’t be able for long to ignore them. They’re in pow-wow’s, spinning and trying to come up with something plausible. Speaking of plausible, I’d love for the Mythbusters to go political.


92 posted on 11/25/2009 1:06:35 PM PST by Indy Pendance (Conservatives: we are their worst nightmare)
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To: markomalley

The only thing Climategate proves is that there are researchers/scientists who are willing pursue their theories even if it means suppressing data that doesn’t support their research, hide their methods from inquiry, and discredit those whose findings disagree with their own.


93 posted on 11/25/2009 1:12:53 PM PST by GSWarrior
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To: ozzymandus

“Of course they’re going to “stick with it”. They knew it was a scam from the start. They have to keep lying to the gullible boobs.”

You know what?

This is just like an LA car chase.

They know they’re wrong, but they keep going - and they’ll keep going until they’re stopped and caught!!!


94 posted on 11/25/2009 1:16:22 PM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (Best Cook on Free Republic! ;-))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“Same troupe of clowns who thought Honduras would actually want Zelayanut back.”

Honduras doesn’t - the assembly of the tyrants of the world do.


95 posted on 11/25/2009 1:21:50 PM PST by RoadTest
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To: RoadTest

Hey!


96 posted on 11/25/2009 1:22:41 PM PST by RoadTest (My Tag Lines Keep Disappearing!)
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To: Congressman Billybob

This is one more tassel on Bummer’s silly clown hat.


97 posted on 11/25/2009 1:25:09 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America.)
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To: markomalley

“”I’m sticking with the 2,500 scientists. These people have been studying this issue for a very long time and agree this problem is real,”

The ones feeding each other false data to keep the grant money flowing?
They should all be arrested under RICO.


98 posted on 11/25/2009 1:26:24 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (The End of an Error - 01/20/2013)
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To: markomalley

“I’m sticking with the 2500 scientists that say the world is flat, and dragons, fairies and unicorns lie in ambush at the edge of the world”.

Um...yeah.


99 posted on 11/25/2009 1:26:34 PM PST by Soothesayer9
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“This is one more tassel on Bummer’s silly clown hat.”

He is going whole hog..already has the clown shoes, clown makeup (i.e. posters), Big Ass Clown Pants, and when the time is right, he’ll take off the mask, revealing the reptilian skin beneath.

They should have cast him in the “V” mini-series.


100 posted on 11/25/2009 1:39:55 PM PST by Soothesayer9
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