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Evangelicals Give Away 170,000 Copies of Darwin’s Book With ‘Special Introduction’
CNS News ^ | Friday, November 20, 2009 | Michael W. Chapman, Managing Editor

Posted on 11/21/2009 6:28:40 PM PST by USALiberty

About 1,200 Christian activists mobilized on college campuses nationwide on Wednesday to give away 170,000 copies of Charles Darwin’s On the Origin of Species, the classic text on evolution. The book, however, contains a ‘Special Introduction’ by evangelist Ray Comfort that argues against Darwin’s theory and presents a creationist alternative to man’s origins and nature’s growth.

The free book-giveaway has angered a number of atheists and prompted evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins, a former Oxford University and University of California professor and one of the leading spokesmen for atheism and evolution, to encourage people to “just rip out” the 50-page introduction.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: darwin; evangelicals; evolution; godsword; originofspecies; origins
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To: agrace

Well, based on the way mankind behaves, the creator has to be
an alien life form of some sort....like, maybe transcendant,
perfect, omnipotent, all knowing, merciful, just, etc...

During the Dover trial a prosecution lawyer asked Dr. Padian
(witness for the evolutionists) if it were possible for a
creator to have evolved? Padian chose not to answer cause if he
said YES, the next question would be , then why do you oppose
the concept?, and if he said NO, then it would mean that
evolution didn’t do everything it is supposed to have done(
including evolving man-and man does create stuff y’now)

Just shows how philosophically self-deluded some of the defenders
against ID can be.


21 posted on 11/21/2009 8:42:52 PM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: USALiberty

“...Darwinism is revealed for what it is.”

And what is it?


22 posted on 11/22/2009 1:21:34 PM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Buck W.

And what is it? It is a Satanic fraud masquerading as a legitimate scientific theory.


23 posted on 11/22/2009 8:45:42 PM PST by USALiberty
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To: USALiberty

A satanic fraud? How so? Virtually all Christian denominations recognize that evolution is a legitimate theory for the progression of the development of life on earth. Even the Catholic Church, the premier Christian organization in the world, acknowledges that evolution may very well be God’s way of getting us here.

Evolution and Christianity are perfectly compatible. Don’t you agree?


24 posted on 11/23/2009 7:52:53 AM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Buck W.
Evolution and Christianity are perfectly compatible.

That's a joke, right? By definition, a real Christian is a Bible-believer. Evolution = atheism. The answers are in Genesis: http://www.answersingenesis.org/
25 posted on 11/23/2009 3:46:45 PM PST by USALiberty
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To: Getready
During the Dover trial a prosecution lawyer asked Dr. Padian (witness for the evolutionists) if it were possible for a creator to have evolved?

Gee, really? I just did a search of all of Padian's testimony during the Dover trial (using a full transcript of the entire trial), and I can't find this question being asked. Perhaps you could quote it for us.

Or perhaps it didn't happen.

Padian chose not to answer

Really? Feel free to cite the actual trial transcript.

If I don't hear back from you, I'll be glad to email Dr. Padian and let you know what *he* has to say about your claims, and the... unique argument you're trying to make on his behalf.

cause if he said YES, the next question would be , then why do you oppose the concept?,

He doesn't "oppose the concept". He opposes several of the false claims and fallacious arguments made on behalf of "ID", and rightly so. Faulty propaganda should indeed be opposed. This remains the case even if "a creator" could evolve.

and if he said NO, then it would mean that evolution didn’t do everything it is supposed to have done( including evolving man-and man does create stuff y’now)

Depends on what exactly you mean by "a creator". But yes, evolution can and has produced organisms (us) capable of making things. This does not mean, however, that arguments against "ID" are invalid, as they are not based on such a premise, nor does it support "ID", especially since "ID" posits that such creativity can *not* evolve or otherwise arise [i]de novo[/i] but must be "endowed" by a prior creator (even though such a claim requires "creators for each creator", thus "creators all the way down". Yeah, right.

Just shows how philosophically self-deluded some of the defenders against ID can be.

Actually, your attempted "argument" shows how "philophically confused" some defenders of ID can be, given how your attempt at a point includes a false dichotomy, a straw man, an ad hominem, sloppy reasoning, and perhaps a false assertion (unless you can produce the portion of the trial transcript in which this alleged exchange took place).

That seems more of an "own goal" than any kind of actual strike against those who recognize that "ID" is mostly all hat and no cattle.

Also, why do you imagine that "the prosecution" would ask such a question? You do realize which side was the prosecution, don't you? Or do you have trouble getting even the easy stuff right?

26 posted on 11/23/2009 4:11:14 PM PST by Ichneumon (Ignorance is curable, but the afflicted has to want to be cured.)
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To: USALiberty; Buck W.
That's a joke, right? By definition, a real Christian is a Bible-believer. Evolution = atheism. The answers are in Genesis: http://www.answersingenesis.org/

By whose definition?

As BuckW pointed out, the Catholic Church doesn't seem to believe "Evolution = atheism."

For which version of Christianity do you presume to speak, and why should that one be binding on everyone?

27 posted on 11/23/2009 4:31:36 PM PST by Gumlegs
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To: SandRat
Hey Richard Dawkins, didn't somone already do something like that????

Some people are still doing it. And they're proud of themselves! Book Burning 2990

28 posted on 11/23/2009 4:35:22 PM PST by Gumlegs
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To: Gumlegs
By whose definition?

As BuckW pointed out, the Catholic Church doesn't seem to believe "Evolution = atheism."


I guess everybody's entitled to his own opinion. I stand on scripture, that's all.
29 posted on 11/23/2009 4:39:04 PM PST by USALiberty
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To: USALiberty
Gumlegs: By whose definition?

As BuckW pointed out, the Catholic Church doesn't seem to believe "Evolution = atheism."

I guess everybody's entitled to his own opinion. I stand on scripture, that's all.

So you're now backing off your previous statement, "That's a joke, right? By definition, a real Christian is a Bible-believer. Evolution = atheism."

I'm sure the Catholics will breathe much easier knowing you're willing to allow them to be Christians.

30 posted on 11/23/2009 5:03:39 PM PST by Gumlegs
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To: USALiberty

“That’s a joke, right? By definition, a real Christian is a Bible-believer. Evolution = atheism. The answers are in Genesis: http://www.answersingenesis.org/";

Not at all, and who gives you the authority to decide who is Christian and who is not? Catholics are free to believe that evolution is God’s method for getting us here. Surely you believe that Catholics are Christian, don’t you?


31 posted on 11/23/2009 6:16:35 PM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Buck W.
Catholics are free to believe that evolution is God’s method for getting us here.

As I said, everyone is entitled to an opinion here in the USA. But I am a Bible believer. You either believe the Bible or you don't -- and I do.
32 posted on 11/24/2009 9:12:23 AM PST by USALiberty
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To: USALiberty

“You either believe the Bible or you don’t — and I do.”

Do you believe that such literal belief in the bible is necessary to be a Christian?


33 posted on 11/24/2009 11:15:20 AM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Buck W.
Do you believe that such literal belief in the bible is necessary to be a Christian?

That is not for me to say. God will judge. But I follow His Holy Word.
34 posted on 11/24/2009 11:49:31 AM PST by USALiberty
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To: USALiberty

“That is not for me to say. God will judge. But I follow His Holy Word.”

Fair enough. In an earlier post, you equated belif in evolution with athiesm. Given your first sentence above, I assume that you no longer feel that way.


35 posted on 11/24/2009 12:48:42 PM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Buck W.

Some people may be confused and misled. But the main goal of Darwinists has been and always will be the promotion of an atheistic worldview that leads people away from God.


36 posted on 11/24/2009 1:21:41 PM PST by USALiberty
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To: USALiberty; Buck W.
Some people may be confused and misled. But the main goal of Darwinists has been and always will be the promotion of an atheistic worldview that leads people away from God.

Do you distinguish between a scientific theory and those who misuse it for their own ends?

37 posted on 11/24/2009 2:04:01 PM PST by Gumlegs
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To: USALiberty

First of all, what is a “Darwinist”? Surely you are aware that the ToE has changed so much since his original formulation that even Darwin would not recognize it today.

Furthermore, you are wrong about the main goal of evolution: it is a scientific theory constructed in accordance with data and observation. Most Christians believe it. Most practitioners are themselves Christian.

You are aware that ToE does not address origins, aren’t you?

Your belief is a vanishingly small minority opinion.


38 posted on 11/24/2009 2:14:46 PM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Buck W.

You are aware that Dawkins believes in “seeding” and “magic cyrstals” right?


39 posted on 11/24/2009 2:17:51 PM PST by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Minus_The_Bear

So what?


40 posted on 11/24/2009 2:30:23 PM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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