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GOP Rep. Garrett: ‘I Agree’ That Obama Should Produce Birth Certificate
The Washington Independent ^ | November 18, 2009 | David Weigel

Posted on 11/18/2009 8:42:02 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

It’s been a little while since a good confrontation between a birther and a member of Congress, but here’s one from last week: a constituent of Rep. Scott Garrett (R-N.J.) asking his congressman why Republicans won’t do anything about the “eligibility issue.” It makes for awkward viewing, as Garrett’s staff clearly wants a change of subject from an audience that seems to be fine with pushing the question. At around 4:40 in the video, the congressman finally engages.

“Obviously, there is no political solution to it,” says Garrett. “Even if the entire Republican Party was united on the issue–”

He’s cut off by another constituent. “Have him show his birth certificate! It’s as simple as that! None of this ‘talk about it, talk about it’ — just let’s see the birth certificate!”

“I agree,” says Garrett — who’s not one of the 12 sponsors of the “birther bill.”

Video after the jump:


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; congress; gop; obama; obamanoncitizenissue
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To: rxsid
“Can you provide the evidence that it was a “bigamous” marriage...and not a “polygamous” marriage? Was there a legal difference in 1961 (?) Hawaii?”

See my comment #65 and Kezia’s affirmation that she married BHO Sr, she never divorced him and considered him a bigamist as well as the Kenya statutory references...

When the 11 AP "factcheckers" get through with Palin's book they should be free to start on "Dreams" by sending a team to a certain hospital in Kenya and to get working on FIOA request for Obama's vital records in HI!

81 posted on 11/19/2009 6:17:22 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: rxsid; Seizethecarp; RummyChick; LucyT; All

> And if the “marriage” is legally recognized
> (or even took place) in Kenya?

In that context, you may well be right :)

However ...

Let's do some research and report back with references (if necessary) ...

What exactly is the question? Something like:

If Obama Sr’s Kenyan marriage (circa 1958) can be proven via prima facie evidence — assuming that Obama Sr IS the biological father of Obama Jr. — would Obama Sr’s British citizenship transfer to Obama Jr at birth (born circa August 1961), even if Obama Sr was married to Ann Dunham (in Hawaii, Kenya or elsewhere) in Feb 1961?

Further, what timeframe of law are we talking about?:

a) Common Law at the time of the Framing
     (in context to Article II, Section 1, Clause 5)?
b) British naturalization law at the time of Obama’s birth?
c) Current British naturalization law?

Lastly, for the purpose of granting British citizenship, would the British recognize marriages (in this context) conducted under?:

a) the Kadhi’s Courts (Islamic) [very likely in Obama Sr’s case]
b) Indigenous tribal marriage customs
c) Only under the British Protectorate Legal System
d) all of the above

Seriously, the answer may change depending on how the question is framed.


82 posted on 11/19/2009 7:59:28 PM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: paulcissa

Doesn’t matter what district I’m from to know that Republican complacency re. the constant blatant disregard for our Constitution deems every one of them replaceable.


83 posted on 11/19/2009 9:39:29 PM PST by taraytarah (Our Constitution must be defended and protected from all domestic enemies.)
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To: taraytarah

But you have to vote Republican, or else the Democrats will get in. You have no choice! At least that’s what the anti-constitution RINOs here tell us.


84 posted on 11/20/2009 3:50:21 AM PST by IntolerantOfTreason (The AMERICAN President should be an AMERICAN, NOT an AFRICAN-American)
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To: BP2

The first question to ask is whether he would have been granted automatic status IF there was a valid marriage...or did the immigration law require an application before his 18th birthday with a review because he was born in the US to a British father assuming the marriage was valid.

I think it would have required an application but not 100% certain.

The other question is why did Barry claim he was a UK citizen. Is it because he was born in Kenya? Because as a lawyer who flitted around the world..he should know he was not a UK citizen since his dad was already married.

It is quite possible that he had a UK passport. I firmly believe that family was involved with the Spooks...and he may have been, too. So one could have been easily obtained with a few lies and a few strings pulled.


85 posted on 11/20/2009 4:54:38 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

If the constitution isnt worth defending against mob rule, than nothing is. We will deserve the tyranny that Hussein will impose upon us if we DONT defend it.


86 posted on 11/21/2009 7:39:45 PM PST by DMZFrank
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To: Kimberly GG

http://atlah.org/atlahworldwide/?p=1262


87 posted on 11/21/2009 11:16:04 PM PST by danamco
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To: Cheerio

Cheney did not call for an objection!!!


88 posted on 11/21/2009 11:18:09 PM PST by danamco
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To: Fee

With the increase in unemployment and coming tax increases, unlimited spending I think an new revolution is in the brewing!!!


89 posted on 11/21/2009 11:24:40 PM PST by danamco
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To: jamese777

The SRM, the other two branches of government are all in the same boat, silenced by the RACE card and other powers we are not privy to know!!!


90 posted on 11/21/2009 11:30:38 PM PST by danamco
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To: cliniclinical
Why fight to the death a machine so clearly destined to fail on its own? Have patience and be ready with a better way once the inevitable happens.

It took the USSR 70+ years, or a LIFETIME before President Ronald Reagan helped them out of their own misery!!!

Is that what you want???

91 posted on 11/21/2009 11:36:31 PM PST by danamco
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To: MrB

When he was assassinated a lady came forward many years later to explain how corruption works in similar ways mafia style:

Here’s what mistress Madeleine Duncan Brown had to say. Interesting, hmmmm!!!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6962062879996612313#


92 posted on 11/21/2009 11:59:28 PM PST by danamco
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To: Seizethecarp

What about his Indonesian citizenship???


93 posted on 11/22/2009 12:03:41 AM PST by danamco
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To: DMZFrank

Roger on Target,,,

Fire For Effect!...


94 posted on 11/22/2009 12:16:52 AM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: BP2; rxsid; Seizethecarp; RummyChick; LucyT; All

Just of curiosity: Where does Ann Stanley Dunham’s underage (18 years) to be able of confer citizenship to her son fit into this equation???


95 posted on 11/22/2009 12:37:26 AM PST by danamco
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am going to play bad boy for awhile here just to think outside the box.

There is no way Obama will ever show any documentation to any board of inquiry.

You can have two million people camped near the Whitehouse all shouting for “Papers!”

You can have all the lawsuits possible all going on at once and yet nothing will go anywhere, and why is this?

Because any and all of those aware of Obamas illegitimate ascension to becoming POTUS are just waiting for him to fall, to fall in disgrace, to absolutely prove beyond any doubt that he had not what was required in a man to be a leader of a nation, a leader of a FREE nation.

There are powers that could probably at any time introduce information of events that would be scathing enough would require Obama to step down almost immediately. They are willing to let Obama go far enough to prove that the affirmative action candidate with Muslim roots and Communist
dreams of a future for America to ride out his little fantasy.

And all of this will come crashing down soon.

It would be best to let this ride on for awhile, let Obama golf every day, let Pelosi enjoy her 300 orgasms a day rhetoric, let the liberals whoop for joy that the healthcare plan will pass, I say lets just let it happen, you cannot temper steel without getting it hot.

All this panic and I am just reading it and not saying anything, actually I am just sitting in my recliner watching Season One and Two of Star Trek The Original Series, oh and working on my motorcycle.


96 posted on 11/22/2009 12:39:22 AM PST by Eye of Unk (Would spring please arrive early, My new motorcycle awaits to run free and wild.)
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To: danamco

Just out of curiosity - have you not read the immigration law?

Oh, and try using a calculator


97 posted on 11/22/2009 6:15:07 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: danamco
“What about his Indonesian citizenship???”

What proof do we have of Obama’s Indonesian citizenship?

A parent's statement to an elementary school that appeared in a register doesn't count in my book, although is raises eyebrow. Parents lie to get their kids into the “right” school or prevent embarrassing questions all the time.

I only have a suspicion that Obama might have gained and used an Indonesian passport to qualify for foreign student subsidies.

Despite ad nauseum repetition, acquiring additional citizenship after birth while still a minor does not invalidate NBC status (eligibility to be POTUS) per the Elg case. In Elg, two naturalized citizens took their NBC child back to the homeland and made her a citizen of the country and SCOTUS ruled that she was still NBC and entitled to re-entry into the US and all NBC rights without naturalization. Only by renouncing US citizenship after obtaining majority can an NBC lose NBC and citizen status.

98 posted on 11/22/2009 7:47:58 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: danamco
Stanley Ann was 18 when BHO II was born. She was likely still 17 (just shy of 18) when conception occurred if the birth was full-term.

But there is no age of mother requirement for NBC status for births within the US, only to meet statutory citizenship requirements for a foreign birth.

Obama would not be NBC, unless you are Ruth Bader Ginsberg and friends, if he was born outside the US to a US citizen, so age or marriage status of Stanley Ann wouldn't matter for POTUS eligibility.

99 posted on 11/22/2009 8:01:31 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Eye of Unk
“There are powers that could probably at any time introduce information of events that would be scathing enough would require Obama to step down almost immediately. They are willing to let Obama go far enough to prove that the affirmative action candidate with Muslim roots and Communist
dreams of a future for America to ride out his little fantasy.

“And all of this will come crashing down soon.”

I agree. I think Murdock is playing it this way.

Would it be better to bring Obama down on a birth location and/or citizenship technicality, or alternatively to have the US public realize that they made a terrible mistake in failing to vet Obama’s Marxist, Alinsky-obsessed Chicago Apollo cabal. I say much better for the US public to realize that lying socialists intentionally destroying the US economy are not the answer!

The question is how much irreparable damage can the US economy and global strategic defense posture stand while waiting for Obama’s power to be taken from him?

100 posted on 11/22/2009 8:22:25 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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