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To: rxsid; Seizethecarp; RummyChick; LucyT; All

> And if the “marriage” is legally recognized
> (or even took place) in Kenya?

In that context, you may well be right :)

However ...

Let's do some research and report back with references (if necessary) ...

What exactly is the question? Something like:

If Obama Sr’s Kenyan marriage (circa 1958) can be proven via prima facie evidence — assuming that Obama Sr IS the biological father of Obama Jr. — would Obama Sr’s British citizenship transfer to Obama Jr at birth (born circa August 1961), even if Obama Sr was married to Ann Dunham (in Hawaii, Kenya or elsewhere) in Feb 1961?

Further, what timeframe of law are we talking about?:

a) Common Law at the time of the Framing
     (in context to Article II, Section 1, Clause 5)?
b) British naturalization law at the time of Obama’s birth?
c) Current British naturalization law?

Lastly, for the purpose of granting British citizenship, would the British recognize marriages (in this context) conducted under?:

a) the Kadhi’s Courts (Islamic) [very likely in Obama Sr’s case]
b) Indigenous tribal marriage customs
c) Only under the British Protectorate Legal System
d) all of the above

Seriously, the answer may change depending on how the question is framed.


82 posted on 11/19/2009 7:59:28 PM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2

The first question to ask is whether he would have been granted automatic status IF there was a valid marriage...or did the immigration law require an application before his 18th birthday with a review because he was born in the US to a British father assuming the marriage was valid.

I think it would have required an application but not 100% certain.

The other question is why did Barry claim he was a UK citizen. Is it because he was born in Kenya? Because as a lawyer who flitted around the world..he should know he was not a UK citizen since his dad was already married.

It is quite possible that he had a UK passport. I firmly believe that family was involved with the Spooks...and he may have been, too. So one could have been easily obtained with a few lies and a few strings pulled.


85 posted on 11/20/2009 4:54:38 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: BP2; rxsid; Seizethecarp; RummyChick; LucyT; All

Just of curiosity: Where does Ann Stanley Dunham’s underage (18 years) to be able of confer citizenship to her son fit into this equation???


95 posted on 11/22/2009 12:37:26 AM PST by danamco
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