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Democrat wins House seat in heavily GOP area in NY
Breitbart ^ | Nov 4, 2009 | VALERIE BAUMAN

Posted on 11/04/2009 4:08:47 AM PST by Ratman83

ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) - Democrat Bill Owens has captured the special election for a New York congressional seat that became a fight over the identity of the Republican Party.

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TOPICS: Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: hoffman; ny23; scuzzafava; scuzzy
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To: houeto

Yes, my typo. Meant 1 million.


81 posted on 11/04/2009 5:00:59 AM PST by SolidWood (Sarah Palin: "Only dead fish go with the flow!")
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

“WHY did the RAT win?”

Because the GOP funded both the opponent’s campaign and the attack ads against the Conservative candidate.


82 posted on 11/04/2009 5:01:59 AM PST by balls
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To: Paladin2

I know the mailers and phone calls from the DNC will be coming looking for funds. My answer: Ask the scum bag for a refund.

Vince


83 posted on 11/04/2009 5:02:07 AM PST by Mouton
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To: sirchtruth

Getting rid of Scuzzy is good but the local GOP will not leatn from it unless they replace the whole leadership. The national party hopefully will learn to look at a canadite before the just follow the local rep.


84 posted on 11/04/2009 5:02:23 AM PST by Ratman83
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To: pburgh01

we have to look at all races and the cause.

The CNBC spin is “democrat turnout was low”

In NY23 the question is who is to blame?

I blame those alleged GOP leaders.

Mr. Steele’s spin is the “conservatives lost to the pro-abortion, pro-gun control, pro-homosexual” RINO.

The MSM is spining the one victory of democrats as the only race.

Now in the GOP Gov. races we have to deal with redistricting.


85 posted on 11/04/2009 5:03:27 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Ratman83

Any statement from the skank?


86 posted on 11/04/2009 5:08:52 AM PST by RGSpincich
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To: Ratman83
Democrat wins House seat in heavily GOP area in NY

Still, though, we won in preventing a RINO from giving aid and comfort to the enemies in Congress. We won in demonstrating that Newt, lost in triangulation, has lost his political bearings (we got the first clue in his personal life). With the victories in New Jersey and Virginia, we won by demonstrating that the combination of a clear-cut conservative message and being GOP is not a losing proposition and that the RNC has only itself to blame for NY23.
87 posted on 11/04/2009 5:09:23 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Paladin2

Can you confirm the 4 (four) voting machines not counted are in Franklin County? If so, could this change the final outcome?


88 posted on 11/04/2009 5:10:29 AM PST by luckybogey
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To: houeto

That had nothing to do with why did the voters of this supposedly Republican district choose to vote for the RAT in the general election.


89 posted on 11/04/2009 5:12:31 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (Al Franken--the face of the third-party voters)
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To: fwdude

Obama gave a plum appointment to the GOPer who held this office previously giving an opening for the Dem to pick up this seat. Local Republican leaders appointed a liberal to run. National conservatives outed her and supported the real conservative in the race. Result, Obama strategy worked and they get another seat at least until next November. I guess you have to grudgingly say it is a short term victory for Obama.


90 posted on 11/04/2009 5:12:54 AM PST by mono
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To: longtermmemmory
Hoffman will hereby be known as "Sarah Palin's failed congressional choice, Doug Hoffman." Problem is, establishment GOP and Dems will both use it, the bassturds. I'm disappointed about Hoffman, but the fact is that over 50% of the voters up there voted against Owens. Scozzafava's name on the ballot ensured many brain-dead would vote for the R, and think of all the absentee ballots already turned in for her, prior to her betrayal. I think conservatives can and should be encouraged by Hoffman's standing. And then to see NJ go R -- that was the real story last night.
91 posted on 11/04/2009 5:14:07 AM PST by workerbee (If you vote for Democrats, you are engaging in UnAmerican Activity.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Over 50% of those voters voted against Owens.
92 posted on 11/04/2009 5:15:08 AM PST by workerbee (If you vote for Democrats, you are engaging in UnAmerican Activity.)
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To: MatD

...23rd described as liberal...

No Democrat had won there in over 100 years. Franklin Roosevelt never even carried it. Thats liberal?


93 posted on 11/04/2009 5:16:03 AM PST by mono
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To: BuffaloJack

Yeah it use to drive my grandfather crazy as to how lib the GOP was.


94 posted on 11/04/2009 5:24:57 AM PST by Ratman83
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To: sirchtruth
This is at the very least a good turn of events for republican's.

Exactly. There were two benefits:

- GOP learned that the conservative base will not stand for "moderate" (read: liberal) nominees.

- Conservatives avoided another Arlen Specter-esque RINO. Someone who would have most certainly voted with dems on healthcare, cap and trade, etc... Owens will still support these things, but he'll do so as a democrat. This hurts the dem congress' ability to claim bi-partisan support for its insanity.
95 posted on 11/04/2009 5:25:50 AM PST by ConservativeWarrior (In last year's nests, there are no birds this year.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

came down to a three person race really
hte only real opposition was from the Conservative party
the R was a liberal. basically the R vote was split between the official R who dropped out and endorsed the Democrat and the Conservative candidate. some people had already voted for the R. this was just one messed up race.


96 posted on 11/04/2009 5:26:59 AM PST by DM1
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To: Non-Sequitur
But I suggest he move into the district before he runs again.

They'd just gerrymander him him back out. Again.

97 posted on 11/04/2009 5:27:16 AM PST by houeto (Almost 20 hours out of nine months? Pray for our troops. They NEED it!)
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To: Iron Munro

The local party does lean left so the National need to clean the local up first.


98 posted on 11/04/2009 5:29:21 AM PST by Ratman83
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To: SolidWood
It WAS narrow! Had Hoffman been the R candidate and Scozzafa not on the ballot he would have won.

Corzine lost by 4 points in New Jersey in a three way race as well. Would you call that narrow? I don't; Corzine got his head handed to him. Well, Hoffman lost by the same percentage point in New York. So he lost, and not by a narrow margin. For him to have won all of Scozzafava's votes would have had to go to him, and I don't think that's a given. Instead of wringing our hands and saying "We would have won but..." the thing to do is regroup and unite around a single candidate for 2012 - maybe Hoffman, maybe another Conservative - and get the seat back.

99 posted on 11/04/2009 5:31:30 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

I think it is OK that the RAT won, this time.

Why?

As I said last night,

This particular election served as a WARNING NOTICE.

A warning to the GOP

AND

A warning to those who would vote the partyline

AND

A warning to the rest of the nation about parties winning & losing.

Thousands, perhaps millions have learned a valuable lesson of how low the GOP will go to win a seat. A win for the “party” and a loss for America.


100 posted on 11/04/2009 5:32:58 AM PST by EBH (it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new Government)
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